Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
Created by kevin32
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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EurasianChad 7h ago
*Assuming this girls story is true, considering there are always two sides to a story...
My take is that this dude had it in the bag easily if he just wanted a quick smash. She was already down brother, could've just played it very chill. Asked her one question and have her rambling while he relaxes eating his food. Then just leads with decisiveness and basic logistical skills.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 6h ago
Yes
She 100% did something to bungle a free smash
Also good to hear from you again dude, check my discord dm
ANKALACHAD 2d ago
Man, if I'm a 6 foot 4 doctor and this chick arrives at the date dressed like she is, I'm cancelling the date right there on the spot. Plain white t-shirt, nails not done. If that's how she dresses to impresses for a first date, then imagine what she looks like on day where she doesn't care.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 5d ago
If you are going to invoke God's name, please at least try to follow his rules.
Besides that, I would be looking for the first possible moment to leave the date if I were in his shoes. The way she speaks is just so many different issues that I would not want to deal with for any amount of time in a relationship.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 5d ago
what is this spicy pill that she is talking about?
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 5d ago
Is a mix of blood flow substances, horny goat weed, spices and other shit to make people horny
Had to look it up.
Lmfao as if she needed one she already wanted to fuck
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 5d ago
Ahhhhhhhh. Got it.
She knew that she now she was 'dating with a purpose' she wouldn't get the damp panties for some beta bux provider type. She knows full well she only gets the lady boner for badboyz.
Got it.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 5d ago
The 'dating' scene car crash has really evolved. We now have crash outs from plain janes as a form of content. Women watch these kinds of clips as a form of entertainment.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
Maybe your 6'4'' dog will pay for your expensive food!
A man's height has very little to do with how good of a husband or father he is.
I understand if a woman is more attracted to a man that is taller than she is, but anything beyond this is only important for feminine hierarchy and comparison. This woman lists his profession and height, which she found out about before the date, and makes a boastful video to cash in. If the man had been of average height, she would not have listed it so proudly.
There is no good reason to do this except for attention from other lonely women who will instantly feel jealous and wonder what her tricks are. "She's not more pretty than ME, why can't I get that kind of man?"
As usual, comparison is the thief of joy. She is comparing this man not only to every other man she's been with, but with every man idiot women on the internet have been with. Of course he doesn't measure up, he can't possibly, no matter how tall or rich he is.
And also as usual, it's very clear she doesn't care one bit about the man himself, only about how he adheres to the date standards she has in her head.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
Minor quibble. I "understand" why a woman is more attracted to a man whose taller than she is, but I think it is still shallow and disrespectful towards men along with the other forms of female hypergamy.
Hypergamy is a statement that the other person has less value than you do and that the relationship's PRIMARY value is resource gathering, not love and companionship.
It surprises the heck out of people when I point out the origin of my pseudonym, Polish Knight, that it was originally cash strapped but military decorated knights who held open doors for "ladies" whose noble fathers had huge tracts of land, and serfs, to enable him to be a "gentle"man or, in other words, someone who would sit around a castle all day with the serfs worked.
This notion of men being "knights" who went to factories and then came home to be a "provider" for a "lady" who sat around and drank wine all day at home while pushing buttons and ordering servants around was due to an unprecedented era in history when the rest of the world lay in ruins after WWII and the USA exported most of the world's cars and machines.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mV7ji6aIqQE
It IS appropriate, for men and women both, to have a minimum level of reliability in a spouse. If someone is a midget, or unhealthy, or unable to earn a good living, and so on. But if a man is 1/2" shorter or taller that has ZILCH to do with his ability to make her safe. It's about what she "feels" and her notion that she's entitled to "feelings" is immature and selfish. I can "understand" it but I don't endorse it.
The irony is that most of these same women fall for men who put on "confidence" PUA games rather than actual displays of wealth or even good looks. Good approach, negging, dread-game, and kino escalation add about 4 inches to a man's height. The issue is the level of personal commitment it takes to develop all of those skills.
Note that one of the classic operas about hypergamy is actually about a man who mourned with guilt and sadness letting the love of his life go because she was... poor! That's right! A MAN had to reject a woman because she was BROKE! It's called The Merry Widow and it's one of the first opera(ettes) I took my wife to. She fell in love with it. Highly recommend.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
Dude, not even close!
Women's hypergamous instincts make them seek what's above their level. They are only attracted to what they perceive as their best options.
That's not hypergamy, at least not in the RP or evo psych sense. That's marrying for money, and those men weren't sexually aroused by the money or land the way a woman is aroused by a man she perceives as above her.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
Happy Monday!
"They are only attracted to what they perceive as their best options."
Then why are there so many unwed baby mothers of psychopaths around?!?!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
Key words from what I said previously: "what they perceive".
Young women suck at determining worthiness, which is why for millennia their parents picked their husbands.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1d ago
Can confirm. Am currently spinning a plate I met at the local community theatre group. She's 26, in good shape, very feminine and submissive. Her previous boyfriend, who I also met doing theatre, was the star of the local football team in high school. He's tall, broad-shouldered, still incredibly fit and very personable - and he shares her faith, which I'd have thought was important to her. He also works at a warehouse and makes damn good money - not least because he's always willing to volunteer for harder jobs and take on extra shifts to impress the higher-ups. All around a great guy who I've no doubt will do really well for himself (assuming his blue pill upbringing doesn't fuck him over, which is, sadly, a distinct possibility).
Then there's me. 5'8" (approximately the same height as her), in reasonably good shape but not nearly as fit as him, only working part time, living with my boomer parents and haven't been to church or held any sort of religious belief in over 20 years (a fact of which she is well aware). I don't say this to denigrate myself, just acknowledging the differences. On paper, the other guy should blow me out of the water without a contest. Yet she'd been making moon eyes at me for nearly two years before I decided to finally give her a shot.
Women's choices don't make sense sometimes. Hell, most of the time.
cc @polishknight
SwarmShawarma 6d ago
He ate at her cost.
She turned up to a date. She looked worse than on the pics, behaves bad, but was excited to do the things.
Dude was hungry, but gathered she could pay for a part of his meal since he wouldn't like to smash her.
Pressures her into not eating, possibly not drinking. Made her split 50\50. Clean break.
The Woman should change her filtered pics to the realistic ones and not to waste the time of the other people.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Potty mouth and bird hands, no wonder he ditched her. He knew she wasn't putting out.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
And even if she did....meh.
Man can be picky when he's a 6'4" doctor.
TJMS Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Boy howdy. Man alive. No, sir.
Treadmill 1w ago
Unfortunately for her, doctors make it rich by studying incredibly hard to the detriment of dating, and thus often turn out semi autistic. He cares for neither game nor flattery. He is clearly fine whether she likes him or not, and is going to have a good time regardless.
Also "Do men just not want to treat women anymore?" He doesn't KNOW you girl. Why in the world would a man take out a woman he doesn't know, someone he has never met but only ever chatted with through hinge, on some kind of expensive multi-hour endeavor? Considering she apparently left right after eating her burger, he clearly made the right choice too.
She got lucky that the date was so cheap by the way. Imagine if she had to split the bill in a 5 star restaurant.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
It's his job. He's supposed to spend money on her and not stop for any reason. Men don't always comply because they are stupid and baffling and don't know how to be Real Men.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
I’m amused that womon often shame men as “boys” for failing or refusing to live up to their demands or expectations but yet don’t have any notion of woman up to justify them since all women or “girls” are ladies for simply existing. This leads to their frustration that men don’t automatically conform to their expectations. Frustration is when expectation is failed by reality.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1h ago
There is also the fact that a lot of expectations are culturally-informed. Just to give one small example, clothes dryers in Japan are quite rare (there isn't a lot of room for them). Doing laundry, therefore, requires one to pay attention to the weather and you can't just throw a wet towel in the dryer. On nice days, there is invariably laundry fluttering on most balconies.
When my wife lived with me in the US for 6 years, she repeatedly commented that when it came to attitudes around housework, American women sounded unbelievably lazy. Despite the fact that they had clothes dryers and that their men had better attitudes about splitting chores, they acted as if light housework was killing them.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 32m ago
The same with Eastern Europe: Until recently, most homes didn't have clothes dryers and I almost find it strange in the states that most of the condos have rules against hanging laundry including in woke regions were they rag on about "solar" power. Isn't hanging laundry the ultimate in solar power?
I also prefer to hang clothes because it's more gentle on the fabrics, particularly sweaters and underwear. I do fluff dry the towels for a few minutes along with the shirts to de-wrinkle them.
I read that Bill Gates actually enjoyed filling and emptying the dishwasher and my wife and I sort of fight about GETTING to do it. We both have our preferred ways. I will insist that non-pre-rinse saves water and putting knives and forks facing bottom is safe. I did the math: At most it's about 1/2 hour/week for our family to load/unload the dishwasher.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
She can't even recognize that Doctor 6-Foot-4 noped out 5 seconds after they met in person. He took one look and maybe tolerated her attitude for a minute and decided she was Slow Tuesday material at best. TGIF's is too good for Slow Tuesday girls. Not worth feigning interest or even springing for her $25 entree. (As an aside, that's what she calls "hair is done?" Talk about low effort.)
Treadmill 1w ago
She was getting ready for the blowjob, no? Had he actually been the kind of prince she wanted, her apparent trashiness would have seen her rejected regardless. Drugs and hoping for sex on the first date are hardly suitable for the kind of romantic fantasy she wanted.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
Oh my god, he's 6-foot-4??? Like-- FOUR whole inches over 6 FEET? Holy shitbags, you've won the lottery!
SIX FOOT FOUR! Thats... onetwothreefourfive... FIVE whole inches over Five-eleven! And Five-eleven is the border of where all the ugly goddamned midgets live.
SIX foot FOUR!! That's-- lemme get my smartphone-- 193 centimeters in metric! And that number makes him sound even taller!
All of that other stuff about him sounds kind of Ok, too? I wasn't listening, to be honest. All blah dee blah, doctor, blah blah, bronze medal in macrame, blah dee blah, 2013 upper Pennsylvania postal deliveryperson of the year, blah blah. Tell me about his height again!
SIX-FOOT-FOUR!!!1! YOWZA! The only thing better than that would be SIX-FOOT-FIVE!!
Men like him are why you wanna fuck entire basketball teams!
You know the old nursery rhyme: Six foot four, screw me against the door! Gargling tall dudes' jizz, that's all life is!
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
I suspect his expectations were not met regarding:
She says he never asked her a question. Maybe that's true. But maybe it's not. I'm old, and I learned long ago to not take a woman's word at face value.
Bottom line: He passed. People rarely do that when they feel they've struck gold.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
I learned long ago to not take a woman's word at face value.
Her face value was not much.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Frankly, based on all the things he could have easily noticed that you pointed out, there's a good chance he felt no need to ask her anything. Maybe she blabbered more than enough for him to get everything he wanted to know from her by nodding and making a few vague noises.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Maybe he surmised she was into him due to his height and $$$$$
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Quite possibly; and I know if I was willing to put up with a trophy wife candidate or other form of golddigger, I'd be requiring way better physical attractiveness than what she had to put up with the lack of everything else.
Meanwhile a plain woman that at least is tolerable to speak to is way more likely to get a pass on her looks.
Someone far more 'tistic than I could probably manage to whip up a chart/graph of that no male effort deadzone between those two poles. And it would have on the goldigger edge a "plate only" zone.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
"Meanwhile a plain woman that at least is tolerable to speak to is way more likely to get a pass on her looks."
Absolutely true.
Good conversation skills and a good personality are force multipliers when it comes to a woman's attractiveness. Both can have the opposite effect, too. Terrible conversation skills and an insufferable personality will make her unattractive regardless of her beauty.
throwaway415 1w ago
lmao she's busted af. surprised bro didn't immediately walk out. why are we taking these uglies on dates anyway
Heaviuh_Things 1w ago
Not ugly...but a Plain Jane on her best behaviour day. Her mannerisms are the biggest problem.
Bro probably knows bro could do better than her.
throwaway415 1w ago
I mean I guess beauty is subjective to a certain degree. "one mans trash is another mans treasure" and such. personally i wouldn't touch her if she was the last woman on earth but that's just me
WanderOverYonder 1w ago
Doc's probably autistic or overly nerdy and this woman could've just been his foot in the door.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1w ago
You're flirting with a rule 1 violation here. Keep the focus on the woman and her behavior where it belongs, please.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1w ago
If that's her all glammed up for a 6'4" DOCTOR!!!!1111ELEVENTYONEONEONE I'd hate to see what she considers casual wear. Forget sweats and slippers; from the look of things a potato sack would be too high market for her.
Also, as I've said before, his being 6'4" means he doesn't have to show up on time or pick up your tab. You have to measure up to his standards. If you can't do that it's trivially easy for him to move on and replace you with the next one in line.
To say nothing of the fact his profession means he's surrounded every day by hotter scrub-covered tail he can likely pull anytime he so desires. It's no wonder he's not interested in shovel-jawed business casual with an attitude problem.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
A burlap sack stained with bird poop, mismatched socks, only shaving one knee and hair with a plastic comb dangling in a snarl because she gave up.
Hell, you should be thankful she used toothpaste this morning. What, you expect her to pick the black mud out from where it's caked under her fingernails, too?
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
I prefer muddy fingernails to the expensive monstrosities most women attach to their fingers in the name of beauty.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
I was wondering where she got a potato sack with a pocket? All the ones I have seen don't have pockets. She must have contacts at the homeless shelter.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 5d ago
Sewing pockets on is fairly commonplace. Like, they teach home ec at public schools still, don't they?
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1d ago
How I know you're old: you think public schools still teach home ec.
How you know I'm old: I know what home ec is.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
My school was so modern and cutting-edge that when it was my turn to shovel coal into the boiler, there was an electric fan.
Not for me, though. It was to keep the coal dust content under the level at which it would explode.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Now what would be interesting would be to find one of her videos when she is good guy hunting. When she is going to be careful here and make him prove his worth as opposed to go taking stuff to get her ready to have sex with a stranger.
She was down to fuck having never met the guy. He couldn't even be bothered. This tells you all about top 10% men and average women.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1w ago
I can try to find one on her page
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
She was down to fuck due to height and his $$$. Do you think she would have taken the pill if he were a 5'8" accountant? NO WAY.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
if he had been a partner in a big firm of accountants, some girls would have been. Never underestimate the power of hypergamy to spin hamster wheels. However had he been a 5'8'' gardener, no unless she was just a real super slut and they are very rare creatures.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Yup, women (especially blasé ones in the first world that don't have to worry about concepts like survival) live at the intersection of Shallow and Materialistic as a general rule. If you don't have money/status, you best be bringing some form of looks.
Heaviuh_Things 1w ago
Along with some form of Machiavellian personality.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
She completed failed to grasp that she was the one that needed to make the effort. Comparatively, she was a mannish peasant girl; the prince (doctor) was not obligated to do shit to impress her.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
Not getting free food and drinks seems to mentally destroy these women.
God forbid she ever stays in a hotel with low water pressure. That'll make her stick a gun in her mouth. If she wasn't too damn lazy to load a gun, I mean.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
@Overkill_Engine Someone here said that they wound up with a girl they otherwise wouldn't have stuck around with because she brought a thank-you card to a date. It stunned him that a woman actually did more than bring expectations and demands (or doing her makeup) to a dinner date.
It's one of the tips-and-tricks I'm going to educate my daughter on. I have attempted to advise women friends I know on how they could land whales but they don't want to hear it. The Whole Point to them is to be sleeping beauty in the caste with the prince fighting off a dozen dragons (that she hired) to prove his worth to her.
I'm actually rather happy, for him, and for me for that matter, that these women are so dumb. "Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake" -- Napoleon (wisdom he learned via experience!).
There are women in my life I'm so happy I didn't wife up because they were so insufferable including plump working class girls who would be absolutely incompatible with my lifestyle now.
There was a scene in the miniseries The Bastard (1978) where a bastard son of a nobleman hopes to someday be recognized by his father and presented lands. Even though he's a bastard, he's still quite a catch compared to the peasants on the estate and when he comes home drunk one day, the local plump peasant girl gives him additional rum and beds him in the hayloft. His mother is disgusted. This peasant girl was hoping to pregnancy trap him.
Back then, the women were actually smart.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Yeah it all goes back to them expecting to be able to cherry pick from either paternalistic protection or equality as they see fit at any given moment, not comprehending that men eventually notice that shit and mentally check out at minimum and stop making an effort.
Why bother jumping thru the hoops like a good little circus bear when your reward is stale peanuts that have been dipped in some other dude's cum?
It's ironic that by insisting on posting their fails like this and attempting to shame men in into doing things grossly not in their own self interest, they are slowly but surely inoculating men into being immune to shame and criticism.
Which is a huge problem for these women as those are their primary survival tools; shaming and nagging men into making the world livable for them. It demonstrably isn't self reliance and bringing reciprocal value at least.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
Keep in mind this works the best when men are young and naive. Not only from his own experience but others around him. Even though I was peripherally aware of divorce when I grew up, I witnessed it firsthand among my friends and family along with anecdotal tales.
These women are amusingly... juvenile aren't they? They act like 16 year old girls on dates against men who are at their physical and economic prime. It's like trying to play with level 1 Castle Wolfenstein tactics against the level 40 boss.