I found the watering hole of Strong, Independent inspins but sometimes one of them posts something I think we'd appreciate here. As it turns out, she appears to have found someone and is trying to help them with sensible advice.
@Typo-MAGAshiv @Lone_Ranger @First-light There's a lot in this particular comment from her including that she found these old geezers disgusting when she was young but now she wants them because they're "age appropriate" which shows how female attraction is defined by social convention rather than her own desires.
Men know what a pretty woman looks like whether we're 18 or 80. This is simply determined by what we find desirable including sometimes women who are more petite, or fat fetishes, etc. but women fret about what other women and "society" will think of her choice.
Apologies for not calling you out @Typo-MAGAshiv: I cut and pasted the moderator list I found on the reddit site.
@lurkerhasarisen I wasn't proposing "hypergamous widow tears" seriously. Well, perhaps if I spot a lot more of them...
@lurkerhasarisen I'll post it on Saturday then perhaps as leftovers? Perhaps a new flair could be created: "hypergamous widow tears"?
This one is rather special in that she clearly has a bad attitude overall. This begs the question about widows in that while we can pity them losing the love of their life (doesn't sound like she had much love left to give him...), is it proper to pity widows in that they locked down a man in their youth because with their SMV/RMV peaking at that time, their insufferable hypergamy and entitlement were at least manageable?
Only due to divorce laws being so harsh against men do we see men staying with such women. This ties into the recent posts I've made of leftover women in their late 40's and 50's who are frustrated that older men (they desire) "prefer" younger women in that youth is the ONLY thing such women are bringing to even a casual relationship table.
What's offensive about hypergamy, after all, is that someone denies love and affection to someone unless they can profit FROM them so it's rather difficult to feel empathy towards someone who withholds it from others for business purposes.
We have labeled this behavior as "feminine", but if you think about it, doesn't it sound rather masculine to be this cold hearted and reptilian? Like something a warrior or factory manager would do to increase profits while women are idealized by romantic chivalry as the opposite? Of being soft, gentle, and submissive?
Read More@moorekom @lurkerhasarisen @Land_of_the_Losers What do you think of widows?
Perhaps not appropriate for WAATGM if widows are off the table but otherwise she's a leftover as an older woman griping about men desiring young women. What do you all think? It sounds like she has a track record of not being very keen on men regardless.
4d ago TheRedPill
@OpeningVermicelli405 Consider that the era of Happy Days (sheesh, some people probably never saw that show) of virtuous housewives is largely over so at this point, one can have a relationship with them but it won't be one of a sugar daddy patriarchal protector/provider taking care of a virtuous Madonna figure.
I had considered dating a professional 30 years ago who had one of the most pleasant dispositions of any woman I had ever met. Women who worked in offices would be frigid, harsh, and demanding while she was actually sweet and fun. I wouldn't mind marrying a wealthier woman at all who was giving me sex that other men paid for, particularly men who paid simply for the pleasure of even talking with her.
As Butter's Scotch would put it: "You know what I'm saying?"
4d ago TheRedPill
@jprdl Soviet feminism is a different flavor than western feminism and has certain issues but it's based upon the notion not of feminine empowerment or "patriarchal oppression" but rather the notion of women being expected to contribute to society via work BUT also still be at least as feminine as any western woman and have a family. Western feminist women are hedonists, victim princesses, and ball busting boss babes who view everything around them as objects to suit their goals.
Hmmm, consider the latest Carol I posted on WAATGM whose an aging "awesome" single mother who says she doesn't need men. She claims women all help each other and all that but note: Does she talk about how she helped her own mother, grandmother, grandfather? Does she talk about whether she volunteered at the local church?
Soviet Woman can be as ball busting as Western Boss Babes, if not worse at times particularly because Soviet Women are even MORE intelligent and focused on objectives. They can reduce a BP American man to blubber in minutes. They're not perfect and can be materialistic bitches and boss babes as well. Watch the films: "Adam's Rib" and "Moscow does not believe in tears".
Note that this was a unique period of Soviet history from say 1940's through the 1980's and just as much as women from our 1950's are different than today, Soviet woman is on the decline. The USA/AU/UK have a toxic version of white guilt feminism going on where I compare materialistic women in mainland Europe to American women as the difference between getting a burger with a few rat hairs in to one where the entire burger is a rat.
Read More6d ago TheRedPill
@Typo-MAGAshiv My point being that a cat doesn't punish me for treating her well and developing dislike for me. Yes, I spray her gentle with a squirt gun if she's on the table but aside from that, she's amazingly civilized on her own.
I adopted a street cat "fluffy" about 32 years ago or more accurately, he adopted me. He jumped on my shoulders and I couldn't get rid of him. He followed me around and when I went to work, he would go on his neighborhood patrol but knew my schedule and would come home at precisely the time I did by climbing a tree, jumping on the roof, and going onto the condo balcony to greet me. He liked other people too including the various "sitters" when I would go on vacation. He would sit on my $1000 17" Sony monitor and sleep or sit watching me.
FOUR of those sitters loved him so much they adopted cats of their own. When he passed away after 18 years, he said "You can bury him at my backyard". That friend died of a tragic heart attack and when his widow sold the house, she said: "Your cat is buried here. I'll sell you the home." and I got it at a good price. I am typing this from his office.
Wherever the next life leads, I know he's there waiting for me.
Read More1w ago TheRedPill
@jprdl I have a Slavic wife and she turned out to be a full blown Soviet Kobieta: harsh in language to those she's intimate with, but slotka with those she is only acquainted with. It's not uncommon for her to say: "I hate that bitch Kasia! She gave me these nice chocolates and now I have to buy her something even MORE nice! I'll show her! Off to Poski gourmet!"
She gripes I don't do enough housework but I imagine if I did, she'd probably bang a biker gang. Nonetheless, I do certain housechores because I always have but if she does more, that's her problem. For example: I do my own laundry because I don't want her to muck it up, I fill the dishwasher because there's a certain way the machine has to work, and the recycling has to be sorted (she refuses to learn how to do so correctly) and so on. If she asks me for something, I remind her that there is a Ukrainian word for "prosze" (budlaska) but I rarely hear it. I still tell her each time "pozhalsta".
20 years married. When she stops nagging, that's when I check my chai for poison.
It is astonishing though how us men have to be so cognizant and aware of our own existence, what we need to do, or not do, and so on similar to dating when women act like children and even married, they're still just better functional children, like older teenagers.
I remember a word of wisdom from an Americanized Pole (didn't speak or know Polish) who told me: "Your problem is you regard women as men when they're women. You have to think of them at all times as women". I realize that I simply have to remember they are women. They don't possess the same mentality as we do. I can do this with my cat for instance. When she's unusually human for a cat, and has an almost hyper aware consciousness, I'm amazed and in admiration but I know 10 seconds later, she'll be biting my toes because she thinks they are malo myszki.
Read More1w ago TheRedPill
Want to share a Nice Guy Story:
Took my 7 year old daughter to an activity birthday party being hosted by her BFF's mother at a karate studio. I brought balloons and a gift and said hello to the mother (who was tatted up a bit, but otherwise appeared "normal"). Throughout the party I chatted politely with other fathers and routinely went to the mother and asked if she needed any help with picking up things and cleanup. My daughter later relayed to me that her BFF told her that the mother said I was "creepy". I can only guess that perhaps she thought I was too nice of a guy. I was not intrusive in any manner whatsoever.
So ok, I backed off. I didn't chat her up at all if I saw her at the playground with the kids and when my daughter held her own birthday party at our house, I left her be but nonetheless had a great time chatting with other guests. My daughter quietly relayed to me that I was no longer officially a "creep". One thing my daughter says that was interesting is that her BFF's mother is "Americanized".
While Russian women are (almost) as standoffish as American women, I find, they generally aren't so easily spooked or would use a term such as "creep" against men simply being nice. Perhaps it's because "nice guys" in America are viewed as "creeps" since this is how they try to hit on women later?
Or perhaps, I wonder, if my kindness and helpfulness was interpreted as "beta"? Do women, particularly americanized women, find men offering to help as feminine and therefore repugnant and unable to simply admit (and accept responsibility for this feeling), they simply label such men as "creepy" so that they can complain (real) "men" don't offer to help with chores?
I read a study that men who do an equal share of feminine housechores were surprisingly 50% MORE likely to get divorced than the ones whose wives complain he doesn't do enough.
One of the strongest lessons of the RP for me is how I learned that much of what I want to do, which is be kind and generous to people, often backfires. That I have to view other people much like with my child in that I can't simply be totally honest and kind with her because she might get spoiled and bratty. I love that I can be kind and sweet to my cat and she... doesn't punish me for doing so.
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