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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 22h ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ
@Typo-MAGAshiv This doesn't qualify for weekday content apparently, but I'm curious: Is it because the matchmaker told the story? Rule 1 does apply since she's looking to have kids with him?
Used Mac-screen recording with physical-audio patching and a sticky-note posted over the title to save time from using “free” watermark removal tools with all kinds of paywalls but had a problem with editing so had to repost. Lessons learned. If anyone knows of a good "free" watermark remover, please do let me know!
The title is taken from where I found it elsewhere and I thought it was clever so giving credit where it’s due. Happy Friday, everyone!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 20h ago
Yes.
You mean rule 5.
I've used Musicaldown.com for years, and it's actually free rather than "free".
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9h ago
Yes, rule 5. Dzenkuje.
That said, @First-light says this is a great post because it illustrates women's mindsets exceptionally well making it, I (humbly) propose: a good candidate for sticky status for Hypergamy even though it's not weekday content. She's inspired another WATGMA post:
Eff Dee Ess defines hypergamy for women, for those few women who can't seem to "get" the concept, that relationships with men are ONLY valid if she gets more out of it than he does. Ironically, when men are as mercenary as women, the system breaks down as Scott Adams, RIP, cleverly points out: https://imgur.com/a/E44dHAw
Hypergamy is a game of chicken and/or musical chairs: https://youtu.be/_nIwitIOeUM
They're gambling with their family's future simply to have a brag they got a deal sort of like scoring a below wholesale buy at a car dealership.
Ponder that for a moment: They regard their future husband and father of their children with the same emotional detachment we do for businessmen. They also gamble with their family's future "I'd rather die alone than settle!" versus fathers, including me, who would throw ourselves under a bus in a microsecond to save our daughter and likely also our wife as well? Why?
Because I couldn't live with myself if I didn't. Not that society would judge me as unchivalrous but because, despite my wife's hypergamy and many other annoyances, I love her (I tell this to halfway decent women I know and they go "awww!") Love isn't something for me that's a weakness preventing me from scoring a free meal or some social status but rather the opposite: I do value someone being there for me even if, gasp, I have to PAY for it. Love to me about personal sacrifice which, ironically, makes love a largely masculine trait doesn't it?
Another cultural reference. "But surely you can't put a price on your family's lives!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kpuyVkqP68&t=89s
Which women get this kind of love even if they don't truly value it at the same degree men do? This brings to mind Gandalf saying to Frodo in LotR:
"Deserves it! I dare say he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."
Smart women with minimal hypergamy and a heart, deserve it and find it. They marry young or they at least have some perception of market value. They don't go to the car dealership demanding a Rav4 at below MSRP on Tax Day. (FYI, If you shop for a car on April 15th, you DESERVE to get taken!)
The traditional image we have of women are as selfless mothers and wives. For example, like Scarlett the cat that rushed back into a fire to rescue her kittens (be warned, this is onion crying material): https://youtu.be/Oz9xdz1dDuk
When Scarlet died, her picture went up on the Times Square Jumbotron: https://www.facebook.com/ScarlettTheHeroCat/photos/the-jumbotron-in-times-square-announcing-scarletts-passing-/1118397879858479/
Compare and contrast to my (ex) girlfriend's cat 30 years ago named "meathead" because although pretty, she didn't like to be petted and would scratch you. When one of her kittens died, she ate it hence the nickname.
Aging women who become even MORE demanding, entitled, and even unpleasant are difficult to feel empathy for. Although the film The Materialists was full of lame cultural tropes, this scene is gold and similar to the above actual woman client: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZIJwHq6pzCQ
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 22h ago
Due to having to pull the post, reposting comments:
@Vermillion-Rx I'm glad these know it all boss babes are becoming spinsters because they decided to pick a man's career path while maintaining a woman's sexual strategy Good luck with that
@Typo-MAGAshiv Weekend material. Good stuff, though. These matchmakers discussing how demanding and unrealistic their female customers are have become more and more prevalent in recent years, and they never cease to amuse me.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 17h ago
Will repost
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 17h ago
Standard post wall woman pricing herself out of her desired market.
Sadly, I think the only reason the matchmaker realized how contradictory her clients demands were is because she has a job that literally requires her to think about other people's wants and needs in order to be successful in the short and long term.
The average woman however can get through her teens and twenties basically being completely oblivious to any wants or needs outside her own if she's pretty enough or men are desperate enough. And so most end up like her client, being on the wrong side of 30 and failing to grasp that a successful man is not going to accept a woman that is both old and fully intending to be a sandbagger.
She can be young and low earning, or old and high earning, but not both old and low earning while demanding high quality of life at his expense. Too many negatives for nothing positive in return.
These women are expecting an Old Money lifestyle while bringing none of the family trusts, properties, and socioeconomic connections that make it possible much less sustainable.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 8h ago
The average woman however can get through her teens and twenties basically being completely oblivious to any wants or needs outside her own if she's pretty enough or men are desperate enough. And so most end up like her client, being on the wrong side of 30 and failing to grasp that a successful man is not going to accept a woman that is both old and fully intending to be a sandbagger.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 17h ago
I'm glad these know it all boss babes are becoming spinsters because they decided to pick a man's career path while maintaining a woman's sexual strategy Good luck with that
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 15h ago
This is a good find as it shows something we talk about lots from the female perspective.
Hypergamy can't be have your cake cake and eat it. Ladies you want to marry up. It makes perfect sense that you want to be able to have your children, be a good mother and stay at home and not lose your lifestyle but you do have to consider what you offer in return. Self assessed "average looking" boss babe brings what? Well money. What else. Has she been educated to be a good woman and mother? Has she got good genes? Has she got habits that will make her a happy homemaker who will bring joy to her husband?
So basically miss, you are useful at doing what you have trained to do. Stick to the career and buy a cat. You have no education in homemaking but you think you deserve that role? Its like a housewife saying she wants to be a consultant surgeon.
They talk about the value in educating women. I agree but for what? To be men? Ok (though I doubt you will do it as well as most real men) but then don't expect a woman's life. Why don't we educate women to be women?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9h ago
While it "makes perfect sense", I like how they justify greed and childish selfishness as a virtue: "it's what I want so what's wrong with that?"
There was an X posting a while ago of a childless couple bragging about how they spend money on experiences rather than pesky children: https://x.com/INTERIORPORN1/status/2055721182771486934
This was the original sexual revolution concept that perpetual bachelorhood is preferable to marital family obligations.
What you fail to consider in such a woman's mindset is that the whole POINT of a relationship to her is the man "providing" and him being a "gentleman" and existing solely to please her. Selfish men, of course, aren't REAL men expecting something from her. People love to put money and food on tables, you know.
While this mindset helps to salve her conscience ("I'm not greedy! They are!") it's a poor strategy in that with aging wombs and looks, it becomes more difficult to maintain such a delusion.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1h ago
And then the dumb ho in the OP wanted to play keep away with even that - meaning she brought no value to the table at all.
She chose the life path of a man and failed to grasp that means marrying like a man does. Usually down, but to someone that brings enough youth and fertility to the table to offset the fiscal liability.
But strategy that doesn't biologically work for women.
Treadmill 14h ago
She is so deluded by her fantasy that she fails to see the basics of home economics. She wants to be a stay at home housewife, with a husband and kids. Yet she also wants the same material standard of living that she has a a high-earning woman. She claims that for that reason, she wants a husband who earns the same as her.
Except that is not enough. He will obviously need to earn way more than her, as his income will be supporting at least two people. So her requirements are even less reasonable than they appear at first. It is essentially not possible. What she wants is akin to winning the lottery.
Realisticially, there are two options for modern women, neither of which she is willing to choose. The first is to become a stay-at-home wife, but accept that you will have less money than before. Cut out the expensive vacations and fancy dinners. This is still doable on a single income and many men would be happy with such an arrangement. Alternatively, you keep working so you can keep your material conditions.
Unfortunately for them, these women are clearly choosing the secret third option: Stay single and hope to one day win the lottery whilst bitterly complaining about men.
As an aside, it bothers me how ready she is to give up her career. She must have studied and worked hard for it, yet apparently she doesn't care for her work at all. Where is the sense of duty to her field, her coworkers, or her patients? A male physician would never be so callous.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 14h ago
Granted, most men, physician or not, simply do not have the realistic option of using their gonads as a source of economic security like even a frumpy woman does.
What the problem the woman in the OP has is she is wanting way more than just economic security while offering less than younger more fertile women.
What she should have done is back when she was in her 20's she should have glommed onto a promising pre-med and suck started him into giving her a wedding ring.
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 8h ago
My thoughts exactly. With residency and med school, if she’s 35, I can’t imagine she has been a full-time physician more than 5 years total. I wonder if she’s even paid off med school loans.
Imagine that as a man: dating a high earner woman, who expects you to earn more than them, all so that they can stop working, while she brings a negative net worth to the table.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1h ago
And then they wonder why men would rather put a ring on younger women who also have less debts.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 5h ago
She's ready to throw it all away on a whim because women aren't building these careers to feel accomplished, or to have a sense of purpose, or even for the sake of long-term financial stability. They see it as mainly bargaining power for getting a better man, and believe the career makes them more attractive because they find men with high-powered careers more attractive. Just like most things involving women, it's a complete failure to understand that men don't see the world like they do.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2h ago
They usually feel accomplished, but they also feel that they've arrived at the finish line when really, they aren't even halfway through the marathon.
When women clamored and whined for equality, they didn't realize how much working from the day you finish school until the day you die can really suck.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 8h ago
At least the matchmaker leveled with her, though she could have stopped with the "first bucket." High-earning guys want a women who is "very pretty, very young," and Ms. High Six-Figures doesn't qualify.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 3h ago
These are the only women who get it. Them, and the ones you hear about who take over a male friend's dating profile to try to help him because they think the guy must be doing something wrong.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2h ago
Those videos are hilarious.