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The Big Question: Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?". Other forms of The Big Question here

woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 5d ago

Now, guys don't send money randomly again to a lady without a lady asking

That's the trick, "lady." A proper lady doesn't ask because she doesn't expect dudes to randomly throw money at her like a common whore.

Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago

Granted, common whores are better people than these Schrödinger's whores.

MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 5d ago

Notice how many of them write like around 8th grade they noticed they could manipulate guys using their sexuality, so checked out completely in the classroom?

ButteryBob 2d ago

Yeah I believe so. Why try and get your smooth brain when your boobs will get the job done

Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago

It makes me think that maybe gender segregated classrooms aren't such a bad idea. And assign different homework and tests so that damselling for the boys isn't a cheat code.

First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago

I am one of the very stingy men. I have learned to take the man shaming. Its better than giving money to someone who never gives nearly as much back and assumes its a right "because vagina". I have got more and more stingy as I have noticed that women's entitlement to money has not waned but their feeling of responsibility to contribute anything at all to the relationship has vanished. She does what she likes when she likes, you do what she asks when she askes and really you should be anticipating her asking.

What's in it for me?"

NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago

I totally agree. I do not tip and do not care who shames me for it. Not the bar wench, not the waitress, not the retards at the coffee counter. Women should be married and devoted to one man who provides for them. Not my job to subsidize your feminism.

polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

When a girl said I was like an 1800’s man, I was insulted. I aspire to be like a 16th century Polish Knight, thank-you-very-much. Another one called me “cheap” and I would respond: “Are you trying to get something out of me with flattery?” I watched Extreme Cheapskates reruns for pleasure (be warned, they exceed even the most cheap aspirations!)

One tale I read, unsure if this is an urban legend, of a guy who went on a date and asked if she could pay her own way. She rolled her eyes and said “sure” so she ordered a dinner and he did as well after giving the waitress a buy-one-entree-get-one-free coupon.

Truly a man who was sired by a Greek god!

After having read that, I was thinking it would be cool to pull off and before she says anything add: “Don’t worry, I’ll have you covered for next time so I’ll pay then!”

No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago

"What's in it for me?"

My go-to phrase when I hear, "Can you do me a favor?"

mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago

I think this is just more proof men are learning money gets you nothing from women. In my younger and dumber days, I purchased girls drinks to get a conversation going. My record? 0-13. What did I get for my money? Nothing. No phone numbers, dates, nothing. I am a slow learner, but I realized buying girls drinks got me nowhere. If you have to buy a girl a drink to get her to talk to you, she is not interested in you at all, for if she were, she would be eager to talk to you from the start.

Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

Yup, if you have to pay for her attention, her attention is worthless if you are looking for a woman that actually likes you.

JudgeSmales 4d ago

I would even postulate that men buying women a drink to gain their attention is a tactic that never worked in real life. Only in movies or TV. Speaking for myself, and every guy I know, if she goes home with you, it wasn't because you bought her a fuzzy navel.

polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

Roosh's Games books are masterclasses on guerrilla psychology: One insight he made, perhaps having picked it up elsewhere, was "compliance tests": don't buy a woman a drink. Instead, strike up a conversation with her and build rapport and then ask her to watch or, better yet, HOLD your drink while you take a pee. It's basically a Reverse Uno Benjamin Franklin effect: Instead of them seducing men via the sunk cost fallacy, a woman doing a task for a man activates their submissive instincts.

Us men need to ask women to do more stuff for us. This goes for marriage game as well. Quite frankly, I LIKE doing my own stuff but wanting to break into management, I need to give people trust more and let them take on a task, even a simple one, and risk them failing.

I'm using these observations in all areas of life. Another fun book: "The Like Switch" by an FBI agent who continues to get Christmas Card from the felons he imprisoned by generating rapport with them to elicit confessions.

Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago

Sounds like these women are crusty dusties themselves.

No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago

Shit's so crusty it sounds like tearing Velcro apart when she takes off her panties.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4d ago

She's so Krusty, Bart and Lisa Simpson watch her on TV every day after school.

PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago

"Send"?

Wtf are they referring to?

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4d ago

CashApp, Venmo, PayPal, Zelle, etc.

Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago

Back in the olden days, your sepoy errand-lad would need to telegraph an India Council Bill to London's Specie-Exchequer Hall before your virgin lady-fair in Croydon could exchange it into pound sterling after she has sent you a fond request steamship-mailed via perfume-kissed handwritten letter addressed to "her handsome gentleman-suitor, the Sassoon baronets of Calcutta" while you're leisuring at your summer estate in the Assam highlands.

The tropics are a curse. Only mad dogs and coolies venture outside at noontime without a parasol and a mongoose on a leash.

PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago

But for what? Is this a group of only fans whores talking about their earnings drying up, or do regular women just get money Venmo'd to them for no reason? This world confuses me. I should probably not ask questions and let the rest of you enjoy these posts lol.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago Stickied

But for what?

Just existing and being attractive.

Is this a group of only fans whores talking about their earnings drying up,

I don't think so.

or do regular women just get money Venmo'd to them for no reason?

Yes.

It's a twisted world we live in.

Before I tell you a bit about the simping epidemic, I'll remind those reading along (as well as myself) about WAATGM's first rule: no shaming men for any reason. I will attempt to tell you about this in a very dispassionate manner without shaming the men who do it, and I expect anyone who chimes in to follow suit.

For the past 10-15 years or so, a disturbingly large amount of men have engaged in simping behaviors to women they find attractive online. Like most human behaviors, it's done mostly out of instinct and those doing it aren't really thinking about what they're doing or what their motivations are. Like how an ovulating woman will deny that she's showing more skin than usual because she's DTF and wants some dude to sweep her off her feet and dick her down, men who simp will deny that they're doing it in hopes of getting laid. "I'm just being nice, bro!"

The simping behaviors can come in the form of complimenting a woman who is never going to fuck you (I've been guilty of this one), or can be as bad as sending money or gifts to e-thots just for existing. There was a story that went viral a few years ago where an OnlyFans camwhore posted to Twitter "one of my followers bought me a Tesla" with a picture of the car, and was immediately replied to with "I didn't spend $50k to be called 'one of my followers'. I'm never gifting anyone anything ever again."

As much as I dislike Fresh & Fit, credit where it's due: I think it was Myron that came up with the most succinct definition of simping: it's the man giving away too much value for too little in return. The Tesla gifter didn't even get so much as a public mention of his name, let alone a beej. Dudes sending money, gifts, or even compliments that don't cost more than the 30 seconds to type them are all giving women a lot more than they're getting in return.

The OP illustrates that more men are waking to to this, and are no longer allowing themselves to be taken advantage of.

mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4h ago

I thought I would provide some real life men acting like S***s.

I worked with a programmer, late 50’s, 5’8” and 300 pounds. I am in his office, at 7:00 AM. He has a picture of a woman, early 30’s, on his PC screen. He proudly points to the photo that he paid $1,000 for the coat she is wearing. They have never met in person, only on line. He is beaming with pride. I am thinking WTF? He should have spent the money of weight reduction. WTF x 1,000,000

I worked with another man, late 50’s, who met a girl on line, in Connecticut, he in Texas. She was 32 had 2 kids by different baby daddies. For months they communicate. One day he gets a sextext. “Does it look like I just had a baby?” He asks where daddy is? No response. This goes on for about 2 weeks, then she gets serious. She wants money, and a lot. She says, if you don’t send me money, I will show these sextexts to your brother. He says, if you do that, I will show them to your parole officer. Why the hell is he wasting his time on a criminal with 2 kids, now 3? He told me he was actually thinking of marrying her. She would have strip mined him for every cent she could get. I just don’t know why he can’t think correctly and leave these POS women out of his life.

This same man helped a prostitute out. She needed a place to stay for a week or so. BTW No sex between them. She goes nuts in his home. He calls police to have her removed. Once out of jail, she comes to get her stuff. He is at work. She takes a statue and throws it through the front window of the home and takes her belongings. Below is another story of the same man, but with a different women. BTW No sex.

He took another woman on a $30,000 cruise around the world. When the trip came to an end, she split, never to be seen again.

I got a text dated December 2, 2020. “I paid off my home and that pissed her off because she wanted me to buy her a car. I gave her the Infinity She wanted a new car. A Mercedes. So she is really pissed.” This worthless POS woman is mad at a man she doesn’t respect and expected him to buy her a car. WTF? He is the one who should be mad, but he keeps on taking crap from her. He lives in a fantasy world, where he thinks these women are his GF’s. He even said to me, he has had a lot of good looking GF’s. They were not GF’s, but women taking advantage of foolish delusional man.

I have talked to this man several times, but he is so damaged he is beyond redemption. He knows he is being used, but will not prevent women from using him.

Updated May 24, 2022. It is worse than I knew. He signed the title of the Infinity over to her, in 2020, in exchange for nothing. The car was worth $16,000. Now, the car needs $4,000 of repairs, which she does not want to pay for and wants him to do so. The car is in her name and is at the dealership. He arrived in Virginia for work. I don’t know what is going to happen. She even stays at his place when he is not there for work. Get this she stays for free. No $$. No sex. He has given her until November to move out. He later changed it to the end of November. I said why don’t you get rid of her? I said call the police to remove her. He said he has tried that. WTF? He is just so damaged he cannot think straight. He wants female attention no matter how worthless it is.

Updated January 20, 2023 The worthless POS woman is staying at his home on and off. Why? She was keeping an eye on it while he was out of town for work. She was to leave the end of November. Guess what, she is still there. She does nothing for him. She does not cook or clean, she does not take him out or do anything nice for him. She has a full time job and makes more money than him. I asked why she is still there, he said don’t worry about it.

GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago

One thing about guys giving away resources that never made sense to me was just pattern recognition. Give stuff, get nothing. So is it just no male role model or father in their lives so they're stuck on a default setting of "please all women no matter what" given to them by their single moms? And even so, the ones that crash out and stop don't seem to be as numerous as the ones that keep giving things away.

Where is this infinity pool of resources coming from? Just mystifies me.

Also, I'm interested in your F&F views, if you have a post elsewhere on it please link to it. Just curious.

polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

PayPal? Did you learn about that in a paper encyclopedia or a telephone book?

I haven't used my paypal account for a while and everyone seems to be going onto venmo or zelle. I asked my brother about my niece if she read my posts on facebook and he chuckled that's for us geezers. She's on instagram.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago

I haven't used my paypal account for a while and everyone seems to be going onto venmo or zelle

The only one of those things I've ever used is Zelle, and that's because my bank uses it.

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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.

In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.

Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.

But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.

Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.

The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.

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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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