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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Gold Digger

Leech lusts for long leave. Lamentably, lone locality lacks liveliness; lover loses to last liaison. Lady lauds latter's luck in life, languishing at lost liberty, lest letting go of late lifestyle.
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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

The crappit comments somewhat restore my faith in humanity. A little as a few years ago, the husband would have been attacked for having a fragile ego, shaming her past, not understanding her emotional journey, etc. I will throw one criticism at the husband: why the fuck did he marry a girl like that? I really dont think she could chameleon that well enough to hide her damage at being an alpha widow. If I heard her drone on about her rich ex that wouldnt marry her, she would have been placed in the "just fuck only" category. She must have sucked his brain through his dick that it clouded his mind.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Some guys grew up with no positive guidance and thus have to learn the hard way if they ever do.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

Indeed. My brother married a woman whose manifest unsuitability was obvious. It's not like he didn't know better: he went to a lot of effort to hide her past from the family before the wedding because he knew we'd tell him to drop her like a handful of dog crap.

Plus, girls have always liked him. I have no idea why he's always been a chick magnet: there's nothing even remotely Chad-like about him, but while girls were vying for his attention, I didn't have a girlfriend until I was a sophomore in college. He had experience dealing with women, but it was generally positive. [Edit]

Maybe that's it: getting treated like crap by girls and women probably prevented me of ever thinking that their natural place was on a pedestal. That helped me later on once I started getting female attention: I'm genuinely nice to people, but I always expected my girlfriends to prove themselves worthy. Since I was voluntarily celibate when I was single, they couldn't short-cut the process with sex (although a couple of them tried). Only one woman made the grade, and we've been married since Ronald Reagan was the president.

[Edit. That reminds me a Chad friend of mine. He was mystified with my disdain for most women even though I'm happily married. I told him that he thinks women are nice because women are nice to him.]

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

I told him that he thinks women are nice because women are nice to him.

I had a similar experience with my brother. We were watching a show and I'd made some snide remark about one of the female characters, my obvious bitterness taking him a bit by surprise. When he asked why I felt that way I explained my general experience with women thusly:

At best, most women to whom I'm attracted treat me with platonic friendliness. Far more often they simply ignore me. Somewhat less often they look disgusted at my daring to acknowledge we exist in the same reality then ignore me.

Given he'd always done reasonably well with women it was a bit of an eye opener to him to hear how things are on the other side.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

There are so many single sentences in this post that warrant discussion. The one that jumps off the page for me is this.

"I found a man who was willing to commit... and I love my husband for that".

I love my husband.....FOR THAT.

Let that sink in. She doesn't love her husband. She loves that he was willing to bail her out.

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deeplydisturbed FDS Dinner Donor 1y ago

Great catch. These nuances are super important.

She SHOLD love her husband because he is the type to commit. But she clearly does NOT love him for his inability to jet set across the globe with her.

Chris Rock said it best: "Men never go backwards sexually, and women never go backwards in life style"

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

This post is an example of what it is like to be married to a woman that is 'alpha widowed'. It's 9 years ago that her ex (an alpha) broke up with her, and she's still pining.

Imagine being the guy that married her. I feel for the guy. He has made a huge mistake, and is slowly learning about it.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

"I have a blog and am trying to start a photography business"

Aren't we all darling.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Given her history, I seriously wonder if she’s ever held a real job in her life.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I would bet my house that if you added up her lifetime earnings, and then set it off against her lifetime consumption, you would find a yawning chasm which has been filled by 'men'.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

And it's not just her vagina.

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deeplydisturbed FDS Dinner Donor 1y ago

Bro, how do you give ChadCards here. Because this deserves ChadCards.

Calling @RedpillSchool

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

i see what you did there.

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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago

I honestly had trouble flairing this one: a gold-digging, damaged, alpha widow who married some unsuspecting victim after having spent her best years with the money guy of her dreams - who wouldn't commit to her because... Well, she's her. But she got lucky, you see. She found someone willing to marry her! Sure, he may not be all that especially compared to the ex... But since it's the ring and the wedding that matters, so what?

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Justanaverageguy 1y ago

She was 38/39 when she got married. Basically she was floating in the ocean about to die and here comes the last life boat she will ever see so she grabs it. But then she complains the seats aren’t as good as some luxury yacht.

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago

But then she complains the seats aren’t as good as some luxury yacht.

But then she complains the seats aren’t as good as the last luxury yacht she was kicked out of.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

It was spelled "luxury yacht", but it was actually pronounced "throatwarbler mangrove".

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

alpha widow

The fucking tragedy of all alpha widows is this: they could have been wives if they just bothered to get on a man's program and give something back besides sex and entitlement.

Literally every alpha widow has been discarded because of her own actions (or, usually, inaction). These women generally think that sex alone is enough to keep a man in line. Sadly, this has worked on most men, but the alpha man is immune to this due to his access to sex from multiple women.

Never commit to a woman who has been alpha widowed - there is nothing you can do about her past and how she will compare you to her ex(es) every time you don't meet her expectations.

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

they could have been wives if they just bothered to get on a man's program

I am going to slightly disagree with you because with some men, myself as an example, but I have seen other do this: you date a girl, have a relationship maybe long term; but in the back of your mind, you deep down know that you will never marry her. Fun to be with, it's also nice to get sex on the regular, but for whatever reason , you will not marry her.

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Goingthedistance 1y ago

How do you figure out that you are dealing with an alpha widow? What are the signs to look for so we avoid being the victim of such women?

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

The first and most obvious sign: she will compare you to her ex in unflattering ways

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

if she is comparing you to her ex in any way, unflattering or not.

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Goingthedistance 1y ago

Ah I see. And the less obvious signs?

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

You won’t resemble any of her ex’s is another big one.

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Goingthedistance 1y ago

You mean looks or general SMV?

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Both. Like if you’re Asian and before, she only dated black dudes, then you’re the fallback

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Both. Like if you’re Asian and before, she only dated black dudes, then you’re the fallback

WOW! I know a guy like this in real life! Short Thai guy, really buff and he falls for a girl that point blank told him right to his face that she only dates black guys. Then she gives him a chance and starts dating him. We ALL TOLD HIM that there was something wrong with this. Of course he didnt listen. She gets pregnant, has his kid then dumps him and goes right back to dating black guys. But now she has a wallet to extract resources from. The way she used that kid to get money out of him was sickening. Besides the court ordered child support, the constant "your daughter needs this," "Your daughter needs money for that," it was so hard to watch that most of us just drifted away from him.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

After awhile, poor guy needed to record some of these convos and bring it to the attention of the judge, figure out where all this money was going.

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Goingthedistance 1y ago

I understand ,thank you for clarifying it up!

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Justanaverageguy 1y ago

This is called narcissistic triangulation. Women are famous for this. Some are more direct about it than others but it’s still the same game.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

I looked that up. Cool.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Narcissistic Triangulation involves the narcissist intentionally introducing a third party, such as an ex-partner, a friend, or a family member, into the relationship. This third party serves as a tool for the narcissist to create a sense of competition, jealousy, and insecurity within the victim.

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NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Sounds like a line right out of my mom's playbook. Wow, that's uncanny.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

What is more amoral than how women slut around is how they settle with men.

It's one thing to be a sloot doing all kinds of degenerate sloot things, but then there is settling.

Having a man trying his damned best to give you his all and stretching his best thin despite the lack of gratitude only for the reality to be that all of her first choices weren't there for her, so they decide a man they never would have given their time of day to otherwise is just someone to have because it's better than being lonely. All which sets him up for absolute emotional failure and completely lopsided investment, and having him in a perpetual state of comparison to the men they wish they'd gotten

Settling is perhaps one of the most amoral dating practices a woman can engage in short of cheating, false accusations, and abuse

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Just reading his reply (which probably was whore-translated from the original), bleeds enough raw emotion that I feel for the guy. He's working his ass off, wants to do something nice and this bitch just shits all over it.

Been there, and its another red pill that turned me from a "okay honey" kind of dude to "what the fuck do you bring to the table" kind of man.

I'm hoping he gets pissed off enough that he sees her for what she is, and dumps her ass on the curb.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

He's working his ass off, wants to do something nice and this bitch just shits all over it.

Accurate and succinct.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I tell leftover women to never settle.

No man deserves to be 2725th place

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Yup, if you aren't her top choice you're just her last resort. Fuck that noise. Dying alone is preferable.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Hell you don’t even have to do that. Retire in 10 years, move to the Philippines and you’ll have a line of women 30 years younger that would love to be your wife. You can probably get a pretty nice house for $150k USD in Manila; double that and you can probably have a nice luxury home.

Don’t waste your time with these hags, just because American culture beats you down into accepting it.

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adam-l TRP Endorsed 1y ago

I tell leftover women to never settle.

This, a million times.

Fucking bastard psychologists routinely try to hastily patch them up and plaster them on the outside, so they can find a man to load themselves onto.

Btw, is this really real? I'm not from the US, and I can't believe this is a real case of a woman, and not some MGTOW trolling kind of thing.... I really can't.

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

Per rule 3, we assume all posts are real unless presented with evidence proving otherwise.

I don't know if this type of thing is more common in the US but I can tell you I've absolutely known women very much like this, as, I suspect, have most of the other mods.

Hell, most any man in this country who's been around a while and been paying attention could likely say the same. There are still good women despite the best efforts of entire institutions to the contrary, but they're pretty damn few and far between these days.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Honestly, this is like 95% likelihood of being real. Even western and Central European women think American women are clowns these days. Southern and Eastern European women wouldn’t even have competition from American women (except Catalan women…yuck)

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Ok, you piqued my interest. What's so special about Catalan?

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No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I tell leftover women to never settle.

Found a gold nugget, gentlemen. This is just sheer brilliance.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

It's true.

Trying to get them to honestly assess where they are in the sexual market is like quoting Socrates to a horse - it will stare at you like it understands, but then take a massive shit and walk away.

Young women can be saved - they don't have years of trauma and Chad dick skewing their perception. Moreover, they are in a position to actually take action to get the outcomes they want.

Leftovers are a whole different thing. First, the outcomes they want are unattainable. Getting past that hurdle is usually an impossible task because many of them are still getting plenty of dick, which allows them the illusion that they're still worth commitment. If you can somehow get them to see that the men they want aren't attainable, you have to deprogram years of "you can have it all, kween" and get them to honestly assess their options.

And, if you're somehow successful in all those endeavors, what then? You still have a leftover woman who knows that she's "settling" for men who she doesn't want.

It's just best to let them ride the carousel until they age out.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

It shows that the old idea of women who become spinsters and later thornbacks as not suitable marriage candidates has proven themselves to be valid after all.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Women suitable for marriage are the women who become wives.

Women who become wives are women who consciously make the choices required to attract and keep a husband.

If a woman is unmarried, it's because she made choices that either failed to attract a husband or failed to keep a husband.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

Too many women want to have a husband but don't want to be a wife

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

It comes from how women see men. We aren't people, we're utilities.

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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago

Settling is perhaps one of the most amoral dating practices a woman can engage in short of cheating, false accusations, and abuse

And that's why I'm always part of the crowd of don't settle, kween, though for different reasons than most.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Don't settle Kween

This has been the conclusion I have reached in the last few years, if women settled cos they figured out their true MMV and they were grateful for good men on their true level, I would be OK with it, but learning that in essence women typically end up resenting and punishing the guy they settled for has led me to believe that they should keep their unrealistic standards even if it means they end up alone, better have just her miserable instead of ruining two lives.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

@Problematic_Browser

Come to think of it when women are talking to me about who to pick i always just tell them to choose the Chad. I never send them to the relationship oriented guy even if i know they're gonna get pumped and dumped.

Just can't do that to my fellow man

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

They wouldn't listen anyway. They only choose relationship guy when they realize they have no choice. If they think they can get Chad, they will pass a hundred relationship guys to get to him.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

Women are the ultimate askholes

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Yup, they don't want good advice, they just want the (bad) choice they already made before even asking to be validated.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

The only advice i ever see women take almost automatically is advice from other sluts.

Probably just because it's confirmation bias

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Sluts tell post-wall women to chase Chad and never settle because of "crabs in the bucket" mentality.

I would tell post-wall women to chase Chad and never settle because I want to spare good men from bad marriages.

We are not the same.

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

TikTok is notorious for this shit. I know there are other social platforms, but the vids I watch that mock this stuff never run out of material.

In a way, its a good view into the hivemind, even if they're at a point right now that its sheer lunacy.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

It’s that FDS mentality. As other women around them get more from the man that they started dating at, like, 20, they demand the same stuff.

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ncstaterepted 1y ago

I have been hearing that a woman settling should be interpreted as a woman finally dating on her level. There were many years of her experiencing what it's like to be with high value men. She never had understand the dynamics because of her vast optionality. So, she believes chad is banging her because he values her in the same way that she values him. My personality, my career, my accomplishments, how interesting I am because I've traveled, etc. Once she ages out of her true advantage, her youthful beauty, it is much harder to date up with purpose and she must somehow "settle" for a man who is on her level...

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

I partly agree and partly don't

Women can generally acquire a man one point above her. Most men will always date down just because the hottest women available are just going to be in the Chad and superstar realm. It's just an upwards bottle neck past a certain SMV for men and women

Anyhow most women could reasonably marry and acquire long term a man 1 point higher in SMV. Where i disagree with you is most could do this in their 20s but don't because they want 2-3 points higher and then settle with same point SMV equal (instead of at least one higher) or even worse they known they are completely fucked the longer they reject same level men and actually marry some guy a point lower (I've definitely seen those marriages).

Basically women can easily enough get one point higher but just often won't and then it's too late

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

I partly agree and partly don't. :-)

Clarification on basic hypergamy: Men are on average 5" taller than women so women who want to date taller can, statistically, easily do so of course with the caveat that heightist short women knock men off the market for the taller ones. In the case of this alpha widow, however, it was income that she was seeking and that's much less likely today as women's liberation and affirmative action have evened out incomes between men and women in the same socio-economic class. It's not the 1950's anymore where a bourgeois woman could swing a dead cat and hit guys who earn more or are better educated than her. Feminists got "equality" for women and they hate it.

Quite frankly, this woman still got a great deal for her age and status but she's mad because the big fish got away. Her whole rant is hilarious such as a "birthday month" as if her birthday is special. She was spoiled rotten and this guy even tried to listen to her bitch about her ex for years? My wife NEVER talked about her exes with me and I barely know about them. I never even saw a photo of them with her. She either burned the photos or never had them.

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

I think you're conflating SMV with MMV here. The former is part of the latter, but generally not a particularly important part beyond the initial go condition of "do I find him attractive?" Yes, women can generally get sex from men more attractive than themselves, but commitment is a different story. More to the point, I've known a number of men with wives far more attractive than themselves who got married young, when these women were at the peak of their SMV, yet those men won out over presumably more conventionally attractive dudes those women might have chosen because they had more to offer than their SMV alone.

@ncstaterepted @lurkerhasarisen ('cause you generally have a better handle on MMV than I do and might have something more to add)

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

My assertion here is that women evolutionarily select men based on SMV. I would argue a woman selecting men more on MMV than SMV is a settling behavior. Women prefer men with both good SMV and MMV but generally speaking women are biologically driven for high SMV men and prefer to satisfy their daul mating strategy in the same man not two different men.

SMV precedes MMV in the dating game. They will pass up countless high MMV men and usually screen them out for higher SMV men and then try to get high SMV men to develop more MMV qualities (taking the tiger/alpha) until they realize they HAVE to choose a man based on MMV (or face spinsterhood)

but commitment is a different story.

Of course it is but because they HAVE to settle. The higher smv men don't want them, it's not for lack of trying. That was the crux of my entire point. They burn through high SMV men, and miss out on marrying a man one point higher and that's how they end up with committable men at their same SMV level versus a point higher when they could have gotten that of they hadn't been overzealous as young fertile women shooting above their pay grade for Chad sex

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

The thought occurs we're likely discussing women of very different backgrounds. Those I know and to whom I referred were generally the products of intact nuclear families with a strong father figure present to curtail the worst excesses of female nature, instill some measure of discipline and who were very much present and influential in the selection process of said husband.

'Course, I've known other women raised in much the same circumstances who went full feral as soon as they left the home, my sister among them, so that's hardly a guarantee.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

The thought occurs we're likely discussing women of very different backgrounds. Those I know and to whom I referred were generally the products of intact nuclear families with a strong father figure present to curtail the worst excesses of female nature, instill some measure of discipline and who were very much present and influential in the selection process of said husband.

This is why I've been harping at people about the importance of vetting not just the woman, but also her family and her relationship to them.

A nouveau riche social climber with no one to hold her worst impulses back is a horrid investment for a man to marry (outside of craftily exploiting her as a sugar mama), while a woman from an old money family with established connections and extensive influence over her behavior is a much better bet, despite both of them potentially being in the same economic bracket.

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

Absolutely. When I was young and not particularly concerned with a girl's parents (not helped by the fact my first couple girlfriends' dads didn't seem to like me much - which is somewhat to be expected for fathers of teenage girls, but they took it beyond just being a bit cool toward me), I used to naively think they didn't matter. I was dating her, after all, not her family; as long as she was on board that was all I needed.

Now? Part and parcel of evaluating any woman's quality and character is evaluating the quality and character of her family and how appropriate and healthy are her relations therewith.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

True. That seems like a rare sight nowadays to find women like that.

Also i don't know who keeps instantly downvoting you it's not me

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

No one's downvoting me, I'm simply removing the automatic upvote from my own posts. I did the same on reddit back when I was still active there, though the site would generate one for me regardless so I actually did downvote myself there.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

No one's downvoting me

I am now!

have some vcards a downvote!

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

Oh yeah? Well I just downvoted myself too!

SO THERE!

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

Oh lol, I like that. Humble play

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ncstaterepted 1y ago

Thanks for the nuance! I can't understand where we disagree! I am reading this as a supporting statement of what I said from the awakened male perspective rather than from the coping/ignorant female perspective I wrote in. Is it where I said "finally dating on her level?" I didn't mean to suggest that an SMV-match was ideal but rather a necessity due to her hypergamous past actions (not grabbing the +1 while chasing the +2/3 as you said).

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

Yeah you weren't wrong at all, it's just that a woman's natural "level" is about +1

That's about the natural order just due to apex males at the top with ungodly SMV and status, the top most desirable women imaginable below them, non-famous non otherworldly chads (your average non famous alphabux) below that and so on down the dating market hierarchy alternating top men, top women, lesser top men, lesser top women and so on and so on (women are hypergamous and the top men are well at the top)

+1 one is a natural order for equal level due to hypergamy. Picking a man of equal SMV is arguably settling as far as I'm thinking about it

(This is my own conjecture not official trp endorsed conjecture).

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ncstaterepted 1y ago

+1 one is a natural order for equal level due to hypergamy. Picking a man of equal SMV is arguably settling as far as I'm thinking about it

I clearly see where you're coming from. Thank you!

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

No problem!

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

This woman clearly does not understand that when she compares her ex to her current husband, she's emasculating him.

Her failure to understand men is what got her in this situation in the first place.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Seriously. I can’t imagine a behavior that’s more repulsive to me than a woman telling me that I’m a lesser man. If I can’t give you what you want, then why not find a man who can?

Oh wait, you can’t. Either shut up or there’s the door.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

This woman is all sorts of things. Gold digger. Alpha widow. Woman who drastically overrates her RMV. Ungrateful. Entitled.

I know a lot about special education, given my family. He’s probably making around $70k a year. That’s an honorable wage, beats around 60% of workers his age. A household of two special education teachers would be decidedly on the high end of the middle class; not rich, but can afford a basic home, groceries, some luxuries, etc. from a RMV perspective, this guy is probably at least average (my guess is he’s been accustomed to being treated like dog crap in dating, given how fast he was willing to wife up a woman like this). Also, special education traditionally being seen as a “female” job (its 85% women) probably contributes to a lack of respect as well; a lot of modern women talk a big game about egalitarianism, but are absolutely horrible to men in traditionally female lines of work.

It seems like this woman got every chance in the book to show she deserved a ring from her ex, but she ultimately failed miserably. He turned around and married a 19 year old at 42 (high five, my man, high five), showing clearly that commitment wasn’t his issue, she was the issue. And we can see why. All demands and no reciprocity.

At least the ex got her when she was a hottie. I bet she’s still above average in looks, hence why she still has this delusional entitlement. Hope our brother breaks free.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Sp Ed male teachers are not properly recognized in our society ever since the 1980's and the witch hunt hysteria (yes, it was a real thing, look it up), feminism, and issues with men being accused of inappropriate behavior. A friend of mine made a real effort to get into the field and hit the ground running: He was a teacher for crack-baby kids in the 8th grade. He was ONLY man on the faculty and being 6'3", his physical presence was exceptional in keeping these "kids" in line. He stopped one of them from raping a teacher. When one of them put a banana is his tailpipe, he smeared the banana on the kids' face. He was boss.

But he just got tired of the system, that it wasn't rewarding enough for the reasons you mention and went into IT.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Yeah my mother would have TA’s in her program. The men would be tasked with all the hard stuff if they had one on staff. But same wage, because equality and stuff. Yanno?

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Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

"When one of them put a banana is his tailpipe, he smeared the banana on the kids' face."

Whoa! Can't do that no more now. These days, you can't even raise your voice without them accusing you of harassment and hurting their feelings.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

That's why he got out. He saw the writing on the wall it wasn't for him. He was one of the good guys but the system didn't want him.

I remember when I was a kid and there were a lot of male teachers. They did an amazing job and served as role models for me to this day. I can almost remember what they said 50 years later, that's the kind of impact they made. The shop teacher was like that guy on Beavis and Butthead. He was such a powerful figure and not only did he teach shop with an iron fist to keep kids from cutting their hands off, he taught sex ed as well and did an INCREDIBLE job. What a force of nature. You know like that sergeant on Full Metal Jacket?

I'm sending my daughter to a Russian language school and there are actual men on the staff teaching science and phys ed. She's doing fantastic.

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reignoferror00 1y ago

Therapist must refer to her as that "bread and butter" client. Years of therapy ain't going to do shit if all you're going to do is talk. Here's a quote for you "Comparison is the thief of joy" and if you don't think you are comparing him to your ex after re-reading what you've wrote, I've got this lovely bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you for cheap or would you prefer some swamp land in Florida?

Okay, let's open you up and see what's wrong - hmmm ... I see ... you seem to be stuck on your highest settings. Can't do much with these old models when they get like that. There is an image that has become burnt permanently into the screen.

re: work - "I have a blog and am trying to start a photography business" - that and a few bucks might get you a cup of coffee some places.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

This is the kind of woman that thinks Screaming Eagle Cabernet 1992 can't be that much more expensive than Bud Light, and will look down on any man balking at buying the former - because she's never had to be the one on the hook for the tab, and ironically would have trouble affording the latter herself.

Her portrait can be found next to "First World Problems".

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

Screaming Eagle Cabernet

Tell me you've been to the Fort Campbell class 6 without saying you've been to the Fort Campbell class 6.

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Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

LOL. She got downvoted big time!

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

You know when Reddit is near unanimous in dragging a woman, that she’s crossed the line in some seriously outstanding ways. Even the raging feminists and white knights can’t defend her behavior.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Yeah when an individual (to use an incredibly nerdy reference) woman breaches the masquerade too blatantly, Team Womyn will then throw her under the bus in order to preserve their future opportunities to act poorly.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

At the very least, they sit this one out. This is to human behavior what multiple eye witnesses and video footage of you committing armed robbery of a 7/11 is to crime. You can try to defend it, but it probably isn’t going to convince too many people.

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ZZoMBiE13 1y ago

Jeez. What an absolute cow. She doesn't deserve happiness, she deserves to be booted to the curb. Hope the dude doesn't live in a state that will destroy him in the divorce. He sounds like a stand up guy who's doing everything for her and all she wants is more more more. You know, a woman.

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AurelianWay Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Birthday week, birthday month? I find this is a practice that women participate in more than guys do. I've had female co-workers take a day off because it's their birthday.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

At my age, (I get cheap senior coffees at McD's), I don't fret about my birthday anymore but my 7 year old daughter gave me a handmade card and cut up "coupons" on pieces of paper to do chores for me. I was touched. Best birthday gift ever.

But on father's day, I don't want a thing because I already have a wonderful daughter. EVERY day is father's day for me.

Folks here are saying they hope the guy stands up for himself but I think he is hence why she's writing. He tells her to go to therapy and stop talking about her ex, period. I'd have done that about 5 minutes into the first date with someone such as her.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Some men need to learn the hard way that used goods aren’t worth the investment. But I venture that you’re right, this little entitled rant of hers probably was what this dude needed to find his spine.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Notice how he’s also a dad now. So she accepted all of this stuff, but apparently he really wanted to be a dad. And she couldn’t even do that for him. Bet if she gave him a few rugrats, he would’ve stuck around. Good thing she didn’t and he could get an upgrade.

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Durek_The_Bald 1y ago

I got a great idea: instead of having a birthday week celebration, I wanted to have a birthday month like how I used to do it most of my 20s and early 30s

Narcissists and their birthdays:

https://youtu.be/pg7XlmDFKFo?si=Z1-h32WXgFtj0CjF

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SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

This is exhibit 1,459,701 of why a woman’s past matters.

Men tend to get wiser with age, women tend to accumulate traumas and issues that the next lucky chump has to pay for. I know it sounds sexist, but it’s just the difference between logical and emotional frame of mind. One seeks to learn from poor experiences and develop self awareness, the other seeks to blame and deflect while nurturing a victim mentality. It doesn’t help when the overall societal narrative still claims that women are all sugar, spice, and everything nice. So if a woman suffers in a relationship it’s because the man did/didn’t (fill in the blank).

Just another reason why younger women are preferable. You don’t have 3 strikes against you before even stepping in the batter’s box.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

I know it sounds sexist

That word has no power here.

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Not "sexist" at all. Its precisely how women act.

Good summary on how it affects women differently than men.

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