Anyone ever fumble a good girl? At the time I wanted an OLTR and she actually agreed to it . Becuase in her words, I have many other great qualities and she understands man’s need for variety. Idk how I pulled that off on a “conservative” Lol
She was a traditional conservative girl who in my eyes was a solid 8 due to natural beauty. Cooked, cleaned, wanted family, hot, fit, nurturing, etc only questionable thing was her bc which was about 10 and maybe 8 with whom she did other sexual things with (she told me this, but who knows for sure, didn’t really bother me much).
We were officially together for 2 years and dated for about 1 years before but it wasn’t all good.
We argued mainly due to my ego and wanting more from her (even though she already gave a lot). Plus, she was almost perfect besides us arguing about the OLTR stuff at times and some other things I thought was nagging.
Long story short, she got fed up and started causing issues over small things. Me being stubborn, and me not wanting to compromise much and she eventually left.
Now I’m filled with regret. I even said I’d stop the OLTR stuff (because I genuinely was getting tired of it) but that didn’t matter.
She’s in the epiphany phase. But I own up to my mistakes and tried to get her back but that pushed her away.
Has anyone ever lost a good girl in your eyes? Did you ever find someone better?
This doesn’t make me angry more so angry at myself. So no RP rage. Women are awesome and I’d love to have another experience like that. I’m well experienced with hooks up and situaionships but I’ve never connected with woman like this, and someone I could be my full self with. Maybe that’s my problem.
She moved on quick and basically became cold. I’m flabbergasted by how much we connected then now nothing.
Answer to myself: Yes it happens to the best of us. You just have to take the lessons and don’t make the same mistakes. You were comfortable with her and that’s what you’re trying to recreate. Get comfortable with yourself in the beginning with any new chick and those feelings may arise again.
preach 1d ago
Between the sentences of "she was almost perfect" to "she got fed up", a lot of stuff obviously happened which you haven't elaborated on. I'm guessing a lot of it is because of you.
Nich2022 1d ago
Yes. That’s my point, I have lots of regrets. I wasn’t the best leader and brought up other women too much. But now it’s too late. Hopefully I find another with just as much connection and just as hot
Musicgoon78 2 1d ago
You fuck up, you learn and then someone else comes along that is pretty fucking awesome. You don't forget quality women. You remember that the world is huge and there's a shit ton of awesome women out there.
The cool thing is that you and this chick had intersecting timelines. She's part of your life story. That doesn't go away and that's really cool!
Nich2022 1d ago
“she’s part of your life story” man that’s a fact. I just can’t stomach right now someone banging her like I did smh the thought of it is sickening.
Musicgoon78 2 1d ago
That's just your ego. People are going to fuck. You have to be strong.
SeasonedRP 1 1d ago
When she started causing issues over small things, it was over and she had.designs on someone else.
You're now looking back with rose colored glasses. I doubt she was the good girl you think. Don't beat yourself up over it. There are plenty more girls out there.
Nich2022 1d ago
Rose colored glasses haha yeah that’s a good way to put it. We definitely had issues but most were caused by me. While I was in it, I was thinking I may want out.
Mofreer 1d ago
OLTR is destined to failure if the girl is fairly emotionally involved with you. Over time, the minor failed shit tests, the slip ups, and just the idea of you being with other women all start to build up, then she will definitely hold it against you.
There is no such thing such as 'fumbling' a good girl. You are the prize, if she decides to leave you, it means she's betting against your future. Act based off of that info
Nich2022 1d ago
Yeah they are destined for failure but she agreed to it. She at one point was chasing my validation and only just wanted to be with me. So much she accepted it.
Redpillpusher 1d ago
This philosophy is idiotic and rooted in fantasy, the male equivalent of "you go gurrrlll". Newflash, not every man is the prize just because they were born men. Sometimes, the women is just a better human than the man in the relationship. What Dumb ass logic, so if a female leaves a relationship where she's not receiving her fair part of the deal, she's betting against her future? If you have any daughters in the future they were born to fail. There are good and bad people in both genders, this is borderline incel logic
Vermillion-Rx Admin 19h ago
There was nothing wrong with his comment. Even redpillschool says one side open relationships are destined for failure. They are.
They do not work long term. Someone always gets too hurt from the arrangement. You are the only person in this thread interjecting ego and emotion
Nich2022 1d ago
Yeahhhh. That’s where my mind went. I admitted defeat as I wasn’t the best but I wasn’t the worse. She accepted the OLTR for 2.5 years becuase she thought I was worth it and had many other amazing qualities (ego stroke?). But you’re right, apparently she wasn’t getting what she wanted but why waste all those years? Prime years as well.
Mofreer 1d ago
Saying “you are the prize” isn’t about being inherently superior because you're a man, it’s about centering your value in your own progress and not spiraling into regret when a relationship ends. Focusing on self-growth means you don’t “fumble” anyone; people come and go, and it’s not a moral judgment. Your reply is rooted in emotionalism and moral relativism; relationships aren't about who's the “better human,” they’re about compatibility and value exchange. If she leaves, she’s betting against who you’ll become, and that’s fine, but it’s not something to mourn endlessly.
Redpillpusher 22h ago
I wasn't emotional, where do you get that from? Furthermore I see you didn't address key aspects of my argument, only choosing to focus on my better human comment. No one told that man to drown himself in regret, I clearly stated he should learn from his mistakes and cherish the good times so, again, you're arguments aren't rooted in reality. You lack comprehension. Being a man does not excuse one from their responsibilities in a relationship. I spoke directly on value exchange, asking: "if the female leaves a relationship where she's not receiving her fair part of the deal, she's betting against her future?" If the female is putting more into the relationship than her fair share, thus getting an unbalanced value exchange, for years and then decides to leave, that's not a fumble of a good girl? You're right about 1 thing though, if she leaves it is a bet against his future, a smart, informed bet based on prior behavior, the same as deciding to finally sell a consistently underperforming stock. Bottom line is this "your always the prize, guys" is the logical male equivalent of the "you go gurrll" movement, in each mindset their respective genders can do no wrong, and thoroughly rooted in idiocy
Mofreer 20h ago
You claim you weren’t emotional, yet your reply is filled with loaded language like: idiocy, logical male equivalent of you go gurrrl. As well as moral judgments like better human and personal jabs like saying you lack comprehension, and saying if you have daughters in the future they're going to fail. That’s not rational discourse, you're obviously very emotional.
You’re conflating self worth with moral infallibility. The point was never that men are flawless, but that a man’s focus should be on his trajectory, not on regret. Although, you say nobody told this guy to drown in regret , but that's literally his post title. If a woman leaves, it’s a data point, not a cosmic injustice. Your ‘underperforming stock’ analogy ironically proves my point: markets (and relationships) are amoral. She sells, he improves. Move on to the next.
You assume relationships operate on some objective ledger of fairness, but hypergamy means women’s perception of ‘fair’ shifts with their options. A man’s job isn’t to litigate her accounting but to ensure he’s not the ‘underperforming stock.’ If he is, her exit is valid, and so is his self-improvement.
You say the man should ‘learn from mistakes’, which is exactly what ‘you’re the prize’ means. Mourning a ‘good girl’ as a ‘fumble’ is counterproductive. Comparing ‘you’re the prize’ to ‘you go girl’ is a false equivalence. One encourages accountability (build value), the other celebrates delusion (‘you’re perfect as you are’). If you can’t see that distinction, you’re not arguing in good faith.
Redpillpusher 20h ago
Valid points, I cede the debate
Vermillion-Rx Admin 19h ago
It's good you ceded because you were wrong
Redpillpusher 8h ago
GTFO you redundant genius
Vermillion-Rx Admin 8h ago
I'll say what i want on here when i want to.
I wouldn't have even bothered moderating this thread if it hadn't had poor decorum at the top
Redpillpusher 7h ago
WTH are you talking about, it's not that serious, go outside
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7h ago
Don't push your luck
Redpillpusher 1d ago
There was a woman who was interested and pursuing me, putting much more effort into being with me than I did her, simply because she was about a 6.5-7 while I was pursuing 8s. Last time I checked on her she was married with 2 children while I'm still trying to make it out of these streets. Although I'm talking to someone semi seriously now I still think of her. I'm happy for her and truly enjoyed knowing her, just like musicgoon stated. All you can do is learn from your mistakes and cherish the good memories
Nich2022 1d ago
Man tell me about it, I got caught up with the OLTR stuff and over played my hand. I’m sure someone will marry her quick.
The streets are old and I wish I had this mindset with her.
No-Stress-Cat 1d ago
I did once. One of the cashier girls that worked with me when I was a department manager of a retail outlet. Every time she looked at me, I could see it in her eyes that if I really wanted to, I could take her virginity right there on the counter. But I didn't because I was married, and the Blue Pill in me told me I should stay loyal to my wife. In hindsight, I should have just made her my side chick. But, stupid me at the time didn't know any better.
Nich2022 1d ago
You did the right thing by not leaving/cheating on your wife. I don’t think that’s blue pill.
No-Stress-Cat 10h ago
Sure about that? 5 years later she cheated on me and ran off with a guy from Canada.
Redpillpusher 8h ago
What about the children?? Are you sure who's the father??