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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Gold Digger

Clueless fiancée finally starts asking the hard questions and realizes he is the Beta Bux. He pulls the plug on the wedding and dumps her and she is freaking out. Gold Digger denied
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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

When reading this, the one thing I'm not clear with is the sex part. Does she say they never had sex? This isnt the 1950's anymore and most women do not stay pure till marriage. Sex is on the table in most relationships and no sex in a relationship is a huge red flag

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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1w ago

This reads like she has received an exaggerated complaint... "you never have sex with me!" meaning "we don't have enough sex".

Equally, she doesn't deny it or address it (like she did with most other comments), she doesn't say "which is not true because we have sex 5 times a week".

So yeah... she's tried to cover up her party past and is dating a guy she's not fucking much..... she is probably trying the whole "I am basically a virgin" thing with him to cover for the reasons she's not fucking him.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago

She indirectly admits to playing pussy keep away towards the bottom half.

This is why once again whores are better people than gold diggers, even if both have the same goal of money. One of the two business models is far less exploitative of men.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago

To paraphrase "The most interesting man in the world": "DON'T stay thirsty, my friends".

Eff-Dee-Ess "pussy keep away" is astonishingly effective and women appear to have a biological instinct in playing it well. It short-circuits when the hot guys are around, but works fantastically well on thirsty beta males.

Nonetheless, I have witnessed an exception to the rule I'd like to share with the group for your entertainment (I hope).

My childhood friend I ate dirt with, "Jake", came from a family of naturally alluring men. His father was mayor of the town and had a mistress. His older brother slept with EVERY attractive woman on a community college campus, including the staff. He looked sort of like Jesus Christ from the classic portrait.

Jake was a bit nutty. He was a 1970's liberal always raging on about the evils of republicanism including at parties where girls were listening awestruck to him and I think he interpreted their interest as a reinforcement of his political beliefs similar to pretty bimbos who think they're great singers because all the men say "you sound great!"

He slept with hundreds of such women until he met his match: Our friend group referred to her as the Pittston Chinese Princess. She had average looks but she didn't "fall" for his charm but rather was a bit ambivalent towards him. She put him on a leash. Later on, I would hear that she put him on an allowance where he could only drink "beer" labeled "beer" sold as scrap by the Yuengling brewery nearby. He paid (and still pays) all of the bills.

He lost his job briefly so she threw him out. He lived like a literal troll under the bridge we used to play on as children until he got a great job as an Engineer and the money goes to her.

The Basement of Nordstrom Doom

One time he went to the basement and there were PILES of women's clothes in hanging bags up to the ceiling. Because she didn't pay any bills, she went clothes shopping 3X a week at "Nordy's." She'd come home, find items in the closet she could "put in the basement temporarily" to make spare space, and hang her new outfits! Lather Rinse Repeat over the course of 4 years.

My wife was laughing her head off. Nordstroms has an unlimited return policy she claims. She would have backed a u-haul into that basement and cleared a fortune. I think she had him get rid of the clothes "she no longer needed".

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hhhhdmt 1w ago

I am glad the dude walked away.

I found the original thread and i am amazed and disgusted by the women there defending him and blaming the man.

The man ran and hopefully this woman stays single for life.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

Yeah, I think I remember that she was quite stingy with sex for this guy. Bet none of her exes had to work hard for it.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago

Why you're practically obligated to post the choicest quotes here, fella.

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SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If a woman isn’t having enthusiastic, no holds barred sex with you, unprompted and on a regular basis then you need to reevaluate everything. You need to vet this behavior for years too, because some women will fake it until they make it. Along with vetting for entitlement and feminist leanings this is the single most important aspect to gauge in a woman. Dread works well to keep this in your favor too. She also needs to implicitly know that you have options.

Women go on and on about equal relationships and equal partners….yada yada yada. No woman I’ve ever been with ever wanted to be my equal. They all knew their place and looked up to me as if they were shooting above their league. I’m not trying to brag, but having this dynamic, as you all know, is the key to a healthy red pill relationship/marriage.

All that said, a guy with this kind of wealth should absolutely be getting a lawyer involved/signed prenup before ever even considering another woman for marriage. It would probably be best just to forgo marriage altogether. Until some sense returns to family law court it’s just too risky a proposition for men.

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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1w ago

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If a woman isn’t having enthusiastic, no holds barred sex with you, unprompted and on a regular basis then you need to reevaluate everything.

Absolutely this.

You need to vet this behavior for years too, because some women will fake it until they make it. Along with vetting for entitlement and feminist leanings this is the single most important aspect to gauge in a woman. Dread works well to keep this in your favor too. She also needs to implicitly know that you have options.

Not only this, but you need to always keep your options open. Never allow yourself to be trapped in a corner.

Always have at least the option to fuck other women if you want to, without consequences.

The second you lose this, she loses interest too.

Women go on and on about equal relationships and equal partners….yada yada yada. No woman I’ve ever been with ever wanted to be my equal. They all knew their place and looked up to me as if they were shooting above their league. I’m not trying to brag, but having this dynamic, as you all know, is the key to a healthy red pill relationship/marriage.

This is the only way to have a happy relationship. She looks up to you and admires you. You maintain control over yourself and the relationship.

All that said, a guy with this kind of wealth should absolutely be getting a lawyer involved/signed prenup before ever even considering another woman for marriage.

Why marry at all....... prenups are not 100% ironclad, the rules on marriage keep changing. Just avoid marriage entirely.

It would probably be best just to forgo marriage altogether. Until some sense returns to family law court it’s just too risky a proposition for men.

haha right :)

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

Homeboy sounds like a bay area Asian dude. He’d be best off relocating to Tennessee, Texas or Florida if he ever wanted a normal marriage. The clock is ticking if he put a ring on a woman’s finger in California.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago

If a woman isn’t having enthusiastic, no holds barred sex with you, unprompted and on a regular basis then you need to reevaluate everything. You need to vet this behavior for years too, because some women will fake it until they make it.

Yup, and even if she is faking it, at least you are getting paid in sex for the time invested in vetting her. Women that play keep away with their pussy deserve no investment at all - the closest to a valid excuse they can have is a virgin in a culture that will kill or ostracize her for fooling around. All the women everywhere else need to whip out the meat wallet and get to paying their bill upfront, no credit line should be extended.

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NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

She is not lying. She genuinely does feel that she has "changed" and is actually shocked that the guy would make a "big deal" about her past, which "shouldn't matter" according to her.

The predatory woman is so convincing precisely because she feels no remorse - and feels genuine attachment and attraction to her target. This is why they are so scary. They fool themselves into thinking they have changed and are inured to the consequences of the past - and will therefore fool you, too, if you aren't careful. The 3,000 year old proverb is still 100% true:

"She does not ponder the path of life; Her ways are unstable, she does not know it."

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago

She genuinely doesn't want sex when he's in the room. I'll grant her that.

It only shows that her love for him is "pure" and untainted by earthly things like sex. Now where's her big house with the picket fence and the yearly overseas vacations?

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hhhhdmt 1w ago

I think she is lying. If she felt genuine attraction to him, it wouldn't be a sexless relationship. She knows she is lying.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago

"Why don't you have any pictures of you from 10 years ago on your page" and I told him that was my ex and the past is the past and I don't want to have that part of my life on Facebook anymore.

Right. The reason is because the it would have come to light faster that she had a history of sport fucking men that were not like the BB she was trying to lock down. And demonstrating clearly that he was far from her first choice and it was a choice not made of genuine desire for him as a person.

And this is why I keep saying men should treat gaps in social media history with even more suspicion than a potential employer would treat a gap in employment history.

Hoes can't help but tell on themselves once you know how to listen/look for it. And a selectively blank gap in social media from a frequent poster like many woman are is a huge red flag. When they actively hide their past it means they had something to hide!

Edit: You know, there might be some money to be made for any red pilled programmers to make a bot that skims and compares the profiles of women and their connected friends list and points out holes in posting histories like that. Basically an activity heatmap. She has a massive cold spot compared to her friends at the same time? Red flag!

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago

If her past was innocent, by her own opinion, she probably wouldn't object to being honest about it now.

Or maybe I'm wrong. If her future husband used to secretly be into coke & hookers in his dumb youthful years, I'm sure she'd be cool with it today.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago

"...when I was studying art in college..........buy a house together"

the jokes just write themselves!

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago

"We were young and dumb and having fun" now she is old and dumb and just want to have money.

Her tastes HAVE changed.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago

"I can't believe my bridesmaid and friend would betray me like that......."

Believe it girl. Bascially, woman have no friends. I'll bet good money the 'friend and bridesmaid' is right now draining his balls. If he has any sense, he'll accept the bidesmaids vejay as a trophy, and move on.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago

She was betrayed... by the truth.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago

"What am I supposed to do?"

Why not hit up those jocks that you were putting out for all those years ago? Oh, they're not interested? Too bad. Time to start planning a life where you live off the value that you acutally create yourself. Come on strong and independent woman, you got this!

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago

Looool. I give even odds she has spent from puberty till now getting free stuff and services from desperate beta providers while getting piped by Chads on the down low, and now the free shit has started drying up because she's nearing the wall and that's why she was trying to lockdown a beta that gave her a case of the dries.

Which means she doesn't even have the job skills/history to pay for the minimal stuff you quoted by herself either. In fact, based on her comment about her educational choices, I'd not be surprised to find she's a walking pile of debt.

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hhhhdmt 1w ago

i hope she stays single and broke.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago

Best outcome for the greatest number of people to be honest. Our society really needs to aggressively Darwin sub-par women out of the gene pool before they can shit in it.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago

"I'm totally attracted to him! I'm just not a sexual person in the same way that I used to be!"

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No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

What I got from this post was: Single women keep other women single.
I bet her friend ended up fucking the dude after her showing him all those photos, the sly bitch.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

She might have been smart enough to scrub out her past on her page, but unfortunately for her, he was still able to find out her past thanks to her friend's pages.

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adam-l TRP Endorsed 1w ago

I'm genuinely flabbergasted about how typical this post is. Are you guys sure it's legit? It seems too much RP to-the-letter...

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6d ago Stickied

Are you guys sure it's legit?

A) everything on the internet is fake.

B) keep in mind WAATGM's rule 3, specifically this portion:

No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.

There's no modmail on the dot reds yet (tag @redpillschool), so just DM any mod (green flair).

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adam-l TRP Endorsed 6d ago

Thanks for the reminder, man. My bad.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago

Is it too good to be true? Or is it... too true to be good?

...now dwell on that for 30 days.

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SwarmShawarma 1w ago

Whenever I come across something so fitting like a glove, I comment on it not for entertainment or investment but stick to facts (subjectively ofc) and let the newbs to read.

At the end of the day Esop tales didn't happen, but anyone can learn from them.

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SeasonedRP 1w ago

I had the same reaction.

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SwarmShawarma 1w ago

bridesmaid told on her

Great diversion tactic

want to start family, children

If she is condomlessly (big chance is she wanted to get preggy and 'forgot' a pill before) run trough like that likelihood she will have problem to conceive goes up.

She said everything he expected to hear (no quote to give extra clues for lurkers)

i called his whole family

"Fuck. No solid enablers to work for me."

none of his business

I can't imagine chick talking to me like that unless just getting pounded and even then only if soft spoken

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First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

I think she was not lying. Her hypergamy is functioning perfectly OK. Its a woman's moral compass in relationships. It says you want the highest value man you can get. In school and college that was a tall jock. For marriage and motherhood its a kind rich man. She does not have the same sexual attraction for him but she was genuinely attracted to locking him down and becoming a stay at home mother.

She is probably genuinely hurt and incredulous. She thought he was supposed to be grateful that she had matured into wanting him.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago

Here's what I think happened. Although this is flaired as Golddigger, I'd classify it as a form of dual-mating: She banged Chads for free and "had her fun" while she prostitutes herself to betas. She's both a whore and slut.

This guy hoodwinked himself, IMO, into believing he was getting a "nice girl". Note how she said that "she never asked him for money" but he "spoiled her". This is because beta-dating culture brainwashes men into paying for women by shaming us as "cheap" if we don't "insist" upon paying for dates. She was smart enough to keep her mouth shut and not blow it unlike women I went out on dates who actually asked me what kind of car I drove (they could have just LOOKED) and outed themselves as what they are.

So what's he upset about? He's angry that she Eff-Dee-Ess rationed sex to him which treats men as slobbering sex hungry ATM machines. It's demeaning and manipulative. He's angry that he spent a decade working hard, alone, to build his empire and she clearly ignored him until he was at the finish line.

He's also right to question her integrity: She SAYS she's "over" all that because this is what she wants NOW. If he wifed her up and she got the kids and home, she could get "bored" and take him for his money in a divorce and THEN go back to her slutty ways with men she doesn't ration sex to.

I personally knew a woman who wrote a cheesy relationship book back in the 90's "Be smart with your heart" where she claimed to have invented the concept of dual mating. She advocated going from one man to the next, as her needs change but she herself wound up alone.

Eff-Dee-Ess DOES work if a woman utilizes it when she's young and pretty and targets beta bucks at their most vulnerable OR if she's somehow smart enough to develop charm and guile later in life (easier said than done.)

Finally, and this is a horrific example, I'm reminded of Jodi Arias who wanted to land a whale, a hyper religious guy who had money and good looks and was generous with sex to him, but she never "hooked" him so he dumped her to chase after younger, pristine virgins and she was enraged about it. My wife empathized with her but just as pretty young women can and do enjoy multiple meals and attention from men and then get fickle and move on, men with means do so as well.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 5d ago

Eff-Dee-Ess DOES work if a woman utilizes it when she's young and pretty

Well, when a woman is young & pretty, all kinds of other strategies work just as well or even better. Even if you screw up, being young & pretty gets a lot of mulligans and do-overs.

"Be smart with your heart"

But she made a big splash with the sequels: "Be wise with your upper thighs" and "Be deft with what's left."

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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1w ago

This post was originally posed to reddit relationship_advice four years ago.

Many people on the forum agreed with the boyfriend.

So the moderators deleted the post.

Honestly - it reads as fake. It reads as tailored beta rage bait. The original user made no further posts, comments or followups, and it just reads like "tick the beta male fear boxes, and don't give any details".

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6d ago Stickied

Like I told @Adam-l upthread:

A) everything on the internet is fake.

B) keep in mind WAATGM's rule 3, specifically this portion:

No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.

There's no modmail on the dot reds yet (tag @redpillschool), so just DM any mod (green flair).

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago

Thanks for weighing in on this.

I believe I, or someone else, posted this about a year ago and I recall, loosely (my memory is imperfect to say the least) that it was hypothesized she sounds Indian by talking about banging tall, white guys along with her general described background (living in a tech sector.).

What amusingly sounds fake, not about the post, but the OP's ex-fiance, is the claim of someone with a $600k/yr "7 figure" fortune in crypto. Probably something going on there.

I think there's a resident member of that community who posts here who may want to weight in again if you can tag him.

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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 5d ago

I didn't say it was fake, I said it reads as fake.

Most posts obviously can't be proven to be false, but there is value in calling out the strong possibility that this isn't real, along with the reasons I included.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6d ago

CC: @TJMS

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TJMS 1w ago

Yeah, it seemed like a clever troll to me... But maybe it's real (Poe's law and everything)

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