Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I have the perfect solution for her. Date an incarcerated felon. Some prisons allow conjugal visits and she knows where he will be all the time. She can even select her bad boy based on crime and sentence.
Damn, we need to make an app for this....
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
There's already a felon dating site.
Pic889 1y ago
Aka: "Oh crap, oh crap, the day has come, I have to marry some booooring ordinary man with a full-time job who doesn't plow bars until 4AM every day and also give him starfish sex once a while in order to avoid taking care of my own responsibilities myself. And I even have to hide my cheating with bad boys that I will inevitably do, at least for a while. Being a woman is hard, having to use those human doings called men to my advantage is so exhausting."
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
But... But... Only incels believe that the dual-mating strategy is real!
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 1y ago
Well you have a child sitting in your lap. She is both "real" and "long lasting!" Enjoy the next 18+ years that you will spend alone with her.
redpillschool Everybody tag him 1y ago
LMAO that's fucking hilarious
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
lol 'k
Bonzai-Shaihulud 1y ago
oh, but they will... In about, let's say, 18 years in the future.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
For the night. Chad knows the apple don't fall far from the tree and isn't about to wife up a ho or the daughter of a ho. Especially when he can enjoy them both for free.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Not sure how much more you need to understand how these girls operate. She says right on her profile that she goes crazy for the bad boys.
She prefers the men who don’t text back for a week and tell her that they’ve been “busy”, even though they don’t even work full time.
She prefers the men who are on dating apps looking for a hookup while she’s hanging out with him.
She prefers the guys who only want to see her after 11 pm on a weekend night.
So do you really want to get in there, help to financially support and bond with a kid that isn’t yours, only for her to get bored in a few years, rip the kid away from you (but still get child support) and leave you with nothing? All because her only motivation to settle down at all is because of some basal survival instinct, so once her survival needs are met, it’s time for something “exciting”?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
This picture is heartbreaking in so many ways: That woman and daughter would have been beautiful if in an intact family but seeing it in this context is tragic. This photo alone answers a rhetorical question that Jordan Peterson posed in an interview "Why shouldn't women have equal opportunity?" Because rather than becoming rocket scientists, most women have used their equal opportunities and free will to ruin not only their own, but their children's lives. Jordan is naive to believe that people will always choose "equal opportunity" to make rational choices.
What else is tragic about the photo is the extortionist social policy that rewarded single mothers presumably because "it's for the children". Child-support, welfare, and generous divorce benefits for single mothers encouraged bad behavior even as it kept a few children off the streets. Each generation gets progressively (pun intended) worse.
It almost would have been a little better if she had some face piercings and tattoos because then it would be easy to laugh her off and move on.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, she is conventionally pretty, and in what appears to be a wholesome way. If you saw her walking her kid around in suburbia, you’d assume she’s the mother in a new and functional family, with a diligent husband who is already trying to plan #2 with her. She could’ve had this easily. Instead? Sexual liberation, bad boys, and government becoming daddy.
Just as bad, all of this incentivizes men to be lesser versions of themselves. Why would you want to work hard, build a career, gain a personality, and all sorts of positive qualities, when you can be a loser and have them chasing after you? Why not be “skittles guy” and offer nothing of value to a woman? You’ll get all the fun parts of being with a woman, with none of the family social gatherings or date nights or anything.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
@polishknight made a great observation. Add in a husband and this could be a Norman Rockwell painting. She's not the usual tatted-up skank we see around here, but her outcome is likely to be similar to theirs. Any high MMV man who sees this profile would know better than to get involved with her and her daughter, so she's likely to end up with high SMV men who will tell her what she wants to hear (she already told us what that is), in order to get in a smash-and-dash.
I find myself writing something I wrote a day or two ago about another woman: her best play from a purely self-interested standpoint is to go the "born-again virgin" route. Openly pining for the kind of "bad boys" who left her with a bastard child isn't going to improve her situation.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Yeah the problem is they will turn right around and sabotage even that for some short term thrills at the long term expense of some guy that made the mistake of assuming her "reformation" was true and in good faith.
What men need to realize is there is no such thing as a former Chaddict any more than there is a former junkie! You leave either alone in a room with their drug of choice, it is not a question of if they'll have a relapse, but only of how fast and how much damage they do to your finances if one was unwise enough to grant them access to such.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
I've seen guys get wiped out like that. My brother married a "born-again virgin." She played the role of Trad-wife for a few years, then she cheated on him (I'm not sure my niece is my brother's kid). After the divorce she did everything in her power to destroy him and my family. Total scorched Earth. She married the guy she was cheating with, and cheated on him (insert surprised Pikachu face), then married that guy... then cheated on him, too.
Another case was a young enlisted guy in my church back when I was a lieutenant. Good kid, but as green as grass when it came to women. He met some hottie who was living with some bad boy and they weren't getting along. I'm not sure what transpired, but he helped her move out of his place, and within the blink of an eye they were engaged. The engagement consisted of them announcing that they were getting married the following week. Mind you, this was a (supposedly) theologically conservative church, so I went to the pastor before the wedding and told him that under no circumstances should he marry them, on the grounds that the Bible expressly forbids Christians from marrying non-Christians in 2 Corinthians Chapter 6. He said that it was fine because she had converted the previous evening.
YOU MEAN LESS THAN 24 HOURS AGO?!?!
Yep... that's what he meant. Obviously I thought it was still a ridiculous idea, and I thought that it was his solemn duty as the pastor to urge caution and patience. Ultimately it wasn't my call to make, and since I had no cause to deny the authenticity of her conversion I decided to hold my tongue. The wedding happened on a Saturday, and they were in church Sunday morning... then she never walked through the doors again. Her "conversion" lasted less than a week. His attendance quickly dropped off to nothing, and when I ran into him later he was miserable and hen-pecked. She Ate. Him. Alive. The poor kid never had a chance.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The first woman sounds exactly like my mom, who like ten years ago was on her sixth husband. Each one destroyed and taken for all he's worth and ground down into the dust. It's quite literally vampiric. If you try to describe it to guys who haven't seen it, they won't believe you - the total destruction of everything a man is and has. Heck, it took me decades to even understand what happened, and I wasn't the victim.
What a wuss of a pastor, but kudos for at least trying. Even got the chapter and verse correct :)
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
I lost a lot of respect for him over that. I have a real problem with pastors who are good in the pulpit, but weak when it comes to the hard stuff. A pastor is more than an orator - he's a shepherd. That's why Paul specified - twice - that bishops (overseers of the flock: which includes pastors) must be married men whose wives and children were in subjection. One of the reasons I have always rejected suggestions that I go into the ministry is that, as a man with no children, I'm not qualified according to Titus Chapter 1 or 1 Timothy Chapter 3. How could I council a couple on raising godly children when I've never done it myself?
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Absolutely, this is one of the reasons we're at a reformed type church now, they actually take most of the commands more seriously. All the ministries are led by men, all sunday school classes taught by men, and lots of strong younger men getting trained well. That kinda thing. Not perfect but better than most in this craphole blue rainbow flag state.
Your plain reading of those passages is refreshing and should be practiced more often. My wife now covers her head in prayer and does not speak in church gatherings. Neither of us grew up this way, but it's the plain reading of those commands and we can't get away from it. You wouldn't believe how amazing it works, you know, like how it worked for 2000 years of church history in all denominations.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
The church we attend is like that. I've gotten up in the middle of services and walked out of churches that aren't.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, like as a man, I can’t imagine anything more emasculating than losing your woman to some deadbeat loser. This is what this woman is straight up telling you is a risk.
Imagine, from 18-33, you’re fairly invisible to women (unless you’re top 10% on the apps or top 20% overall with good game), so you work hard, study hard subjects, grind at work. By 33, you have a home, a car, savings and investments, and all sorts of good stuff that would make a woman see you as a strong provider. You meet a girl, you date for a year, you propose, around your 35th birthday is the wedding. You have two kids. But around your 40th birthday, you notice she’s behaving weird. Through some snooping, you realize the truth: she’s getting her holes all filled up by her 25 year old, tatted up personal trainer. You end up divorcing, she gets tens of thousands of “shared wealth” built up in the settlement, plus child support until the youngest kid is 26 (welcome to Massachusetts) and 4 years of alimony. Sound good? Is that what you worked your tail off for?
That’s why these women need to be avoided like the plague. Let her have her bad boys and her endless drama. It’s what she craves.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Raising a daughter and teaching her wisdom. It astonishes me how many families we meet with 30 something daughters still "finding themselves" thinking they can just cash in on beta-bucks anytime. Yes, the world is FULL of thirsty men, but these women are unlikely to want them.
Imagine you're a guy at 33 who got all this stuff managing to survive in modern corporate America where he knows if he says the wrong thing to a woman at work, he's fired and losing his job. Most of his friends have been hit by divorce or ripped off. He can't reach that age without some sense.
So... if he dates a woman whose in her early 30's, he's not going to wife her up right away. He will insist upon tasting the cow's milk and putting her under observation. She may gripe that "her clock is ticking", but, hey is that HIS problem? When he was 20 if he was so horny he couldn't roll over in bed she'd say "women don't owe you ANYTHING!"
So she may date a few guys in "trial relationships" and before she knows it, she's gone from 30 to 35 to 40. Even back in the 1990's, the society was increasingly full of what would have been otherwise quite desirable women destroying themselves as corporate nuns or hedonists.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yup. We have time. Sure, even at 40, it might be harder for a man to just jump into a relationship compared to a woman (since she always has someone in her orbit, somewhere). But men can go across age ranges, socioeconomic classes, even nationalities, no problem. If a man is making good, top 5% money, and is even passably decent looking, he can find a wife within a year if he really wanted to. Sure, he might have to expand his dating radius to “global” and hop on a plane for one, but he can do it.
Women? Nope. Not a shot that they can do that. Not unless they fight their own biological programming and pursue men that don’t fulfill the traits that they need.
And corporate nuns? One thing I’d add is that, in my 20’s, i was also working myself to the bone with a smile on my face. Get in at 9, go home at 9. Why would I do that? Well, I wanted to succeed of course. But also, it helped to cop out my social inadequacy. Why worry about people skills when I’m “too tired” to spend time with people? I think for a lot of these women, they’re doing the same thing. Working themselves endlessly as a way to avoid something uncomfortable, which is interacting with other people. Which is why so many of them are absolutely horrible at real empathetic connections with other humans (some are quite good at social situations, but only diabolical scheming, not actual connections). In a world where there’s so many thirsty men, if I see a woman in her 30’s that is single, it’s a huge red flag. Especially if she’s got that corporate career and is surrounded by the kind of high value men that women want to marry.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Especially if she's of at least average attractiveness physically. Merely being born with a working vagina means that a woman by default has one of the most powerful negotiating tools known to mankind. So if she made it to her 30's without getting a man to commit, she undeniably fucked up major league in one or more ways.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I hate to break it to you, but the ones who stay attractive and don't have kids can sometimes pull it off.
They're the exception, but it happens.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
They can pull it off, sure. But a 38 year old career striver is almost certainly not going to be happy with some 27 year old guy from Belarus that she’s financially taking care of. She’s going to look back and see her ex boyfriend that she didn’t take seriously for marriage because she was “too young” is now running a publicly traded company, and appears to be engaged to a woman 10+ years her Junior. Because you better believe that every woman who rushes down the aisle after the age of 35 has a superior man in her past that she ran off.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Of course they do. They are the friend-of-a-friend success stories that drive the feminine hivemind to think it can happen to them. Why do we play the lottery?
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
This is disgusting.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
We've had worse.
We'll have worse again.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I think the hardest thing about swallowing the red pill is how the revulsion for this type of behavior has become reflexive.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah for sure. I used to think single moms were just women who had a relationship go south or made a bad judgment. While there’s definitely single moms that aren’t bad, there’s way too many that are these kind of messed up. Also, you begin to look back on your life at the girls who ended up becoming single moms and you definitely see a pattern emerge.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Every single mom - every fucking one - is single as a result of her choices.
If a woman is single, it's because she either has a broken picker, left a man, or drove a man off with her relentless bitching.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, I just sometimes speak in olive branch language. Like give a woman credit when she says “yeah that was a mistake, I’m trying to make the best of it now”. That’s what, though, 2% of single moms? Much more think of themselves as Wonder Woman
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
You're fucking up.
chadinthemaking69 1y ago
Drives me crazy the lack of accountability. It is refreshing to see any woman go “yeah I fucked up.” Even though they don’t have to, evolutionarily.
Karenzza 1y ago
Unfortunately you.will never distinguish between honest "yah I fucked up"' and conditioned one, that is when one have learnt that saying that, gets better response and sparkly eyes from.a man. But thers nothing behind it. Absolutely nothing.
Then once they think they have you they most likely go 180°
Lack of accountability is build into firmware after so many years.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Yeah talk is cheap. If she does not make it her mission every single day without fail to offer a "decent man" a better deal than what she gave Chad, then she's automatically full of shit.
99.999999999% of women are going to be full of shit in this regard, single mom or not, the second they think they can get away with it. And then they wonder why more and more men are choosing the fuckboy Peter Pan route instead of buying them a ring and house and picket fence and 2.5 kids.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago
Or the opt-out Peter Pan route. I'm 37 and make ~30k/yr working part time. That ain't much but I'm a single man with no kids and no major bills to speak of. I don't need much. What bills I have are paid in full and on time, I'm able to put a fair bit into savings with every check and I have plenty of time to focus on hobbies.
I'm altogether too average to show up on most women's radar in the first place without putting in far more effort than the vast majority are worth and I've no interest in busting my ass for a company doesn't give a shit about me only for Uncle Sam to help himself to 30% (or more) of my earnings to pay for those women's bastards. So off to Neverland it is.
reignoferror00 1y ago
Something real and long lasting? Don't worry, I'm sure you'll eventually stumble into bed with a bad boy with herpes.
DextroShade 1y ago
I do not get why they put their kid in their profile pic. The only guys who are going to take her seriously are losers and pedophiles.