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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago Stickied
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
No, but they're a delicious addition! I especially got a good laugh at the 46-year-old woman (hey, that's my age!) who blames covid for "killing [her] prime years". Bitch, you were 40 in 2020! Your prime was in the early 00s!
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 2d ago
There is a wide swath of women who got seriously fucked by COVID. Every woman plans their dismount from the CC to be at the last possible moment to stick the landing, no margin for error. I mean why get off at 32 and give yourself a few years cushion in case you don't find someone right away, when you can enjoy yourself until 35, then date like hell and get married in a year and have some buzzer beater kids just before 40? Why 35 when you can wait until 38, get engaged in 6 months, start the fertility treatments (which will work on the first try) before you get married, and pop out a kid and a wedding ring before the year is over?
Then COVID threw a big wrench into all these exquisitely timed dismounts.
This woman blames COVID for the fact that she missed the landing at 39/40. She'll never blame herself for waiting until then to start looking for a long term guy.
OLD makes this even crueler. If you started COVID at 38, then had to go into hibernation until 40, on OLD your matches will hugely drop the minute your age ticks over to the big 40 and the filters kick in.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2d ago
Good catch on the age filters. I remember reading an article by some woman who was gobsmacked at what happened to her matches IMMEDIATELY after her 30th birthday. Not a delayed, gradual downslope… they fell off a cliff in both quality and quantity.
Realistically, she was one day older, but birthdays that end in zero put women in different categories. The flip side of women using dating preferences like drop-down windows to select men based on a dozen criteria is that men use the drop down windows to screen for age. Just as an algorithm will hide a man who’s 5’11.5” from a woman who sets her floor at 6’0,” it will also hide the profile of a woman who is 30 years and one day from all the men who set their age ceiling to 30 (or in this woman’s case: 40).
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
When I pointed this out to a woman on X that age for men was like height for women, she went into sheer copium mode. They HATE to hear that, gosh, the world doesn't revolve around their preferences.
This is partly why egg freezing doesn't work for them similar to, fun story, when a car dealership tried to sell me "gap insurance". "Your car is worth $4000 less driving out of here. Do you want to risk that? I can get you gap coverage for a mere $20/month for the next 5 years" I did the math in front of him: My car payments would close that gap within 5 months. Why didn't I just drive safer for the next 5 months? He didn't like hearing that.
Anyhoo, egg freezing: Why would a 20 something woman pay thousands to freeze her eggs when she's already struggling to get by financially and knows that she's so wonderful she can enjoy her 20's without worry? The whole idea of being an entitled woman is that responsibilities are pesky men's business.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1d ago
Nobody LIKES to be reminded of their shortcomings: especially people who’ve been told they don’t have any their entire lives (which includes virtually all modern women). I imagine it’s pretty jarring to have someone bluntly tell you that your deepest insecurity is justified, and it will only get worse over time. But as you noted, reality is shockingly indifferent to our preferences, and ruthlessly punishes certain delusions.
When I was a single man I was in a weird state: by any objective measure, my MMV was through the roof. I was the kind of guy that women would tell their daughters to lock down (that happened twice that I know of), but I’m no Chad and I never have been. My height comes into play here: I’m in that zone where I’m shorter than most men but taller than most women. (Noticeably but not extremely so in both cases.). If we use +/- 1 StDev as the standard for “average” then I’m at the lower end of average for male height and the upper end of average for female height. I also dgaf about whether a woman is taller than me, and two of my girlfriends were.
HoeMath has done some good work explaining how the social dynamics were different (more assortative) when people interacted in meat space before they started dating, rather than through screens. That tracks with most people’s experiences, and I’m fully aware that I would never have dated (or even met) some of my girlfriends (and maybe NONE of them) if women were selecting men based on drop down menus that screen for height back then.
Nobody benefits from this “Build-a-bear” system except tall men and young women. The difference is that height is permanent while youth is not.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 22h ago
I had a friend ask my blonde wife, a patent attorney BTW, "If you won 40 million dollars, what would you do?" and she said "give 40 million people a million dollars". It stunned him.
I think they lack the cognitive ability to separate emotion from logic similar to how some low IQ prisoners can't answer the question "If you hadn't eaten breakfast, how would you feel?"
A woman friend of mine said us men were "brain damaged" because we weren't "in touch with our feelings" but yet women love to squawk about "emotional intelligence". Er, us men have that from the age of, oh, say 10 or so. We understand that there are consequences to our emotions and most of us know the consequences of acting out and are incredibly restrained. The homework scene in Fight Club illustrates this neatly: If you try to pick a fight with most men, they'll avoid it.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 21h ago
Yeah… I’ve never understood the idea that women do most (or all, as many claim) of the emotional labor in relationships. MEN are the ones who have to be stoic, while women can be ruled by their emotions.
My mother once told me that the greatest compliment she ever received was when someone told her that she thinks like a man. I am exceedingly grateful that my wife is the same way. She DESPISES drama.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
Her actual prime years was before 9/11, that's just how old she was, now her dating rivals are women who were born years after 9/11 happened.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5d ago
Nah, she'd have been 21 on 9/11. That's still near the beginning of her prime.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
That gets me chuckling because perhaps she's serious. "I'm a strong and independent woman which must turn on the hot guys who make more than me so now that I'm ready to settle down, time to give one of them a chance and put a baby in me in the next 2 years or so!"
HitTheRoadJill 1w ago
She can still blame covid for dealing the final blow to her dating life. Maybe she meant possible years and incorrectly called them prime.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago
Like, why the hell would a CEO Chad (we all know she ain't bothering with no broke niggas) bother with a perimenopausal hag when he could easily afford a 20-something golddigger that is at least is still fertile and pleasant to look at?
Hell, buying regular housecalls to their penthouse apartment from a local escort agency is better ROI for those men than these hags.
These women are just idiots that didn't invest their youth in a decent man but are expecting to still get the dividends of one instead of having to work until retirement. I hope they live long enough to be confined to a wheelchair in a public funded nursing home.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 2d ago
I didn't plan on becoming fat. It just happened that way. All I did was choose, each day, to eat a hamburger instead of a salad.
I didn't plan on having a shitty job. It just happened that way. All I did was choose, everytime, to smoke weed and get drunk rather than study and do my homework in school.
I mean, come on. Everyone knows that six pack abs, 6 figure careers, life partners, and families all just drop out of the sky, while you spend everyday choosing other priorities to work on!
The comments are even better. I laughed at the last one. At least the one that picked a career over a good man ends up with a career that hopefully provides a roof over her head. This chick thinks it's better that she chose bad men instead? What did that leave her with, aside from drug resistant STDs?
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 3d ago
"Covid killed my prime years, 39-40"
jesus wept.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
Aside from the "prime years" comment (meaning when my estrogen peaked in desperation as my ovaries crashed and I felt really slutty), I actually have some sympathy.
In previous years, women usually all did get picked unless they tried to actively avoid commitment. Men came and got women. It was a normal expectation. -You just do your thing and you get picked by a number of suitors. You get to pick one of them.
But then the thing that women did was no longer useful to men. It didn't trouble her mother's generation. She had a part time job, she had countless lovers in the late 60's and early 70's. It didn't stop her father thinking he was lucky to won her. He still chased her mother down and he still paid for almost everything. "So you go girl, you just do your thing and be amazing and the men will come, if you want one" ("they aren't much good really and they demand too much" was often added with a smile).
Things are no longer what they used to be. The poison of feminism worked its way through a healthy society. At first people carried on as usual as best as they could but then men saw so many men burnt by the poison that they changed their habits in small ways and now there are left over women everywhere.
The generation of women being raised now have no excuse. They know that men are hard to keep. They know you can't have it all. But first was a generation of women who did have it all, then a generation who were surprised they could not.
Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
Women have always had to try to some extent. Place themselves around the kind of men they want, be nice to them, indicate that they are interested and available. Put real effort into the relationship instead of taking it for granted.
The expectation that men will (and should) find you attractive regardless of your actions is a big part of the problem here.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
Your career, your choice.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
Congratulations, gentlemen. You sat at the table, drank the wine, ate the bread, and was baptized in the pool of Toxic Feminism. You traveled the road most traveled by and became the men you wanted to marry.
"BuT i DiDn'T pRiOriTiZe HaViNg A cArEeR!" Yes, you did. In all those years slaving away for The Man who ran The Machine, you could have spent honing your skills to become a wife and a mother.
You took the job that was meant for your future husband and father of your future children. You replaced him with...you. Now you are "the man" you wished you could have, but he no longer exists. You erased him from your future.
Sir, your prime years were 20-30. You thought you had time. You thought you could wait.
You followed your Feminism religion sacredly, kneeling and praying before the Sisterhood. "You can have your cake and eat it too," your Goddess said, while you basked in the aura of the Golden Vagina which sat upon a Throne of Lies.
You wanted the world on a silver platter. You wanted it all. You chose this path in your selfishness. You harvested the lies and planted the seeds of Female Superiority, and now the time has come for you to reap that which you have sown.
ProvidedCascade 1d ago
This. I would actually liken this to a form of macro economic stealing. 70-80% of women working had to push out the men they "replaced" or divert resources to their own job rather then having those go to a working man. Leaving a lot of men who could have done better or been better being robbed of future possibilities or potential resources from societies that were supposed to at least give opportunities, instead of propping up and facilitating women's every desire.
Sometimes economies are zero sum and there are opportunity costs. What went to women had to be taken from somewhere else.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1d ago
The counter arguments are that depriving women of the freedom to choose to become “economic units” rather than wives / mothers is 1) inefficient and 2) unfair. Both of those arguments are flawed for reasons that are not germane to my point, but what’s important is that the only way women can even approach “equality” with men is if there’s a giant thumb on the scale. The fact that women are actually “outperforming” men shows just how hard that thumb is pushing down. Not only are the artificial adjustments huge, but they have to remain indefinitely (which is unsustainable). Remove the thumb and the scales will return to their default state in short order.
(It also shows that we’re measuring the wrong things when we define what constitutes female success: a GirlBoss (tm) who hits menopause alone isn’t successful in any way that matters, no matter how much “education” she has or what brands she spends money on.)
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
and at 46, that womb is basically already a tomb even if menopause somehow hasn't kicked in yet.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
From womb to tomb lol. Does that mean that cougar chasers are "tomb raiders"?
Let's not forget abortions: "Something died in there? Ew. I'm not dating a cemetery."
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 5d ago
Whether or not she actively chose to be put on a path to spinsterhood requires you to consider that choices are not simply whether you take a left or a right at the fork in the road. There is in fact a third choice in the question of "which way to go." That third choice is stopping and going neither direction at all. When applied to the dating market, this woman will think "I did not choose to be single at my age," but she in fact did the equivalent of stopping at the fork in the road and choosing not to continue. While taking the left path may have been "become a radical man hating feminist," she may think that just because she did not take the left path that she did not choose to be single. But she failed to continue on the right path of "prioritize seeking a man who is husband material."
Stopping on the road and going no further means you are avoiding the "become a wife and mother" just as much as going on the "I hate all men and want nothing to do with them" path. When it comes to dating and marriage, you need to make active choices to make that happen. Sure, some women "just happen to find a husband without trying," but this does not take into consideration the fact that such women were making other choices in life that put them on the right path that were not noticed, but still contributed to the end result.
This is exactly why it is important for young women to know that they should prioritze seeking marriage as a goal in life if they really, really want to be married and have a family. Especially these days with the state of relationships, it will not "fall into place" nearly so easily.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
My brother-in-law has a funny story where he went to his younger brother's place, saw it was a mess, and gave him a vacuum cleaner and put it right by the door and plugged it in. He went back 2 years later and it was still there, plugged in, utterly unused.
This was the stereotype of men back in the 1950's: Men couldn't and wouldn't do housework. It was Women's Work. I suppose some men just cannot do it.
I think what's wonderful about the comments is these women gripe that their friends and relatives remark precisely what's wrong about them: they're lazy, picky, and entitled. No! It "just didn't work out that way!" Well, that's generally the case for lazy, picky, and entitled people. Things usually don't work out for them.
And that's justice.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
39/40 isn't the prime years of anything for a woman (outside of singing maybe), if anything 39/40 is the nearing of the final end for the average woman's fertility.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
You may not have realized it at the time, but yes the fuck you did.
Just like a fat fuck didn't choose to be a fat fuck, but he or she chose to eat (or usually drink - those liquid calories add up fast) every mouthful that made him or her into a fat fuck.
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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
They believe in 'destiny' until it doesn't work out.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
I had a debate on the "asker pays" logic many women express. It's BS of course because if the date is 3rd party arranged, they still expect the man to pay. But here's the thing about that:
Someone curating a relationship from scratch is perhaps the most high effort task imaginable. Matchmakers charge thousands for introductions. When women gripe about the cost of doing their nails or hair, something they would have done anyway, the effort required to start a relationship are massive.
Yet, these women act as if it's magic. Like the stereotypical sexist man who assumes floors clean themselves or a baby's diaper is changed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqQgDwA0BNU
Of course, they justify this with "real men" should do these things or that's just what "gentlemen" do. That said, if this is just what men are "supposed" to do, without thanks, why do they make such a big deal about gestating babies? How HARD is it to just eat healthy, don't smoke or take whiskey shots while carrying, and put up with some medical discomfort? Yes, there's medical risks but this goes for high risk professions men do such as driving a taxicab or coal miner. For bourgeoise women with a healthcare plan and epidural, it really isn't a big deal. My wife laughed at how smooth her delivery went.
So they show no respect for "destiny" and then accept when they lose. I teach my daughter "adulting" daily and it's not something to celebrate as "strong and independent" it's, repeat after me: "THE BARE MINIMUM!"
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6d ago
When you go out with Taiwanese or Japanese people, everyone is expected to chip in and some people make a big show of putting in more than their fair share. When you spend years living like that, the BS looks even more obnoxious.
For Taiwanese, the scramble to put a lot of money is a grand show of generosity, perhaps a chance to show off one's fat rolls of cash; to be stingy or poor is embarrassing. The feminist rationale for paying half comes from a very different origin from the Taiwanese one: "so that the man doesn't think I owe him something". Which is sort of a crabwalking implication that she'd be willing to let a man pay if she wanted to fuck him. But she doesn't want to fuck him, so she's going to pay something. If she feels like it, of course. If not-- if she forgets to bring any cash-- no biggie, he's still not owed anything.
The idea that putting money in is the right thing to do, --because splitting the bill is what they have no problem doing when they're out with their female friends-- is apparently not applicable when a man is across the table.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
It is a shame they had no say or control over their lives. It was written in the stars, what could they have done? Well me being a full grown man a-hole, I would have done these things.
If you see a man you are interested in, walk up to him and talk to him. WTF am I missing? Do it!
The majority of men are NOT 6' or taller. And taller men do not have bigger dicks, are smarter are better fathers or husbands, than men who are not 6'. So pull your head out of your ass and look at the total package. The odds are better with under 6' because there is more of them. Again, WTF am I missing?
Chads don't commit because they don't have to. They have plenty of Dumb bitches waiting in line to be used and abused, so don't be one of them. BTW I was a wingman for Chad for years. I know what I am writing about.
Want to be treated like a lady, then don't act like a 304.
Don't take advise from women because they don't know shit about men.
Bad Bois are called bad bois because they are bad. So get the fuck away from them. They will not change and you cannot fix them. WTF am I missing?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6d ago
"That's the man's job! Am I supposed to hold the door open and lift his suitcase for him too?!"
"I can control him with my Magic Vagina. He'll only be bad to other people because I'll be His Magic Vagina Who Is Different From All The Other Magic Vaginas."
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago
I just had a debate on X with a woman who got upset when I said that height for men was like age for women: That as women age, it's like they are men who get 1cm shorter per year after age 21.
She didn't like that AT ALL.
"Men have sperm that ages badly also!" she coped.
I pointed out that the men with choices, the hot ones with money, at age 40, can land the fertile 20 something hotties even if only 20% of them will date older men because if 80% of women chase after 20% of men, it evens out.
Crickets for reply.
This is a lost generation, like in Japan.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5d ago
WHY?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 5d ago
You should post screenshots of the X debate.
I mean-- to take the woman's side for the sake of argument-- it's not as if a woman can control her age in the same way that a man can freely make himself taller. /s
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago
Good riddance though. Women shouldn't have been taking the historical ~80% chance to pass on their genetics just for being born with a working womb for granted.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Asshole. You beat me to this point.
I blame Disney partly for this "learned helplessness" of Sleeping Beauties who "didn't choose to wind up alone" because "nobody I liked asked me out" or "I refused to settle!"
Imagine if someone is on the street homeless because "I refused to settle for a job that earned less than $200K. I could only find $190K jobs!" or "I wanted a job, but they expected me to fill out an application or go to the office interview instead of them taking me out for dinner!"
Many men have made sincere efforts to get laid/girlfriend/wife and failed. Granted, they could have done more but that can be said of all of us. Each decade, hoeflation meant men doing more and more for less. My father landed my mother at a dance hall in 1958 and she shit tested him by giving him her name but not her number. He had to look it up in a book. These women have the easiest access to decent men in history. Yes, they have to filter out men in the apps but when I asked my wife to find a leather jacket for me in Macy's app, she was a tech genius all of a sudden!
What I didn't see from the womanosphere was accountability. There was a lot of copium and some tear wailing, but none of them tried to learn anything and pay it forward: "You know, we were lazy and entitled. I hope younger women don't wind up this way and put an effort in and have reasonable standards based upon merit." Nope! NONE of that I saw at least from the women.
I think there are sensible women out there, but they probably aren't on the media platform I sourced this from.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago
Because they are not likely to be having relationship/dating troubles. As usual, women's complaints are confessions.
HitTheRoadJill 6d ago
As much as they’re complaining now, being post-wall and never married is nowhere near the discomfort and shame of being homeless on the street.
If you must use the homeless person on the street analogy, the men around them are more like homeless shelters. The homeless people you see on the street have various reasons for not using the shelters around them. Some don’t like the shelter’s restrictions on their whereabouts or their drug usage (giving up the cc). Some shelters are full (taken men because these women didn’t act fast enough). Some shelters have aggressive residents, diseases, or structure damage (some rejection reasons are very good).
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago
The aging disabled woman I posted last week is like that. Her video diary of how she survives being single and disabled is sympathetic, but it's also cope. Her parents and relatives help her but she says she worries about getting by but SHE WON'T SETTLE!!! We don't know what "settle" means because they speak in Navaho code, but we know it usually means they want a hot guy who doesn't mind a woman with a fatal disease who can't have kids somehow will help her pay her bills and back her up.
Marriage was "for better or worse "and men, rightly, were expected to pay alimony if they dumped a loyal wife who raised kids and got sick and he kicked her out for a pretty young woman. She could have had that guy but... no tingles!!! Nevermind that she is BARELY tolerable to Chad like if you're hungry and go to Taco Bell.
I have a funny homeless guy story. About 3 years ago I was coming back from the doctor's office after he discussed my cholesterol and I had picked up McD's. Ok, I know how that sounds. So I have the chicken nuggets and fries and i don't want the fries but they were included on the deal, you know? A homeless guy with a sign "I'm hungry!" so I stopped and said, I'm not making this up:
"Hey! I don't want these fries! Enjoy!" "Can you give me a gift card instead?" "I don't have a gift card. Enjoy the fries!" "Can you go back there and get me a gift card?" "No. You said you want food. Here."
He didn't take the fries and went back to holding up his sign at the traffic intersection. I suppose eating the fries would discourage the cars from giving him money.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6d ago
Put that on the goddamned sign, then.
It's people like that who give homeless junkies a poor reputation.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago
"Oh why won't a rich handsome prince fall on his sword for nothing of value in return?"
Like, this lady, and I am being very generous with that label, fails to grasp that if she don't even like her life, why the fuck would a man want to share in it?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago
My theory: they yearn for togetherness. To have someone to go on walks with. So on. Got it?
So that’s the value SHE brings HIM! He should PAY for that companionship by being hot and pay for stuff. Oh, what the value he brings from his companionship? She wants it, yes, but a lady cannot be expected to actually pay for it.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
I'm sorry, but this is just risible.
Are there regrets that I have? Absolutely. My regrets usually take the form of "I wish I'd done X differently" or "I don't know what I did wrong when I did X." Not "I didn't do X, Y, or Z and I didn't reach my goal anyway." Like... what??
When I was 20 and you'd asked me "Where do you want to be in 25-30 years?" I'd basically be describing my life right now. And I didn't do that by not making any efforts, hard decisions or calculated risks. Was there luck involved as well? Probably in some cases. Did other people act on my behalf? Quite possibly, but I'll never know for sure. But I guarantee that if I'd lived for the moment at any given moment, and "went with the flow" and "did what came naturally" with no overarching plans, I'd probably be living in a basement somewhere with long, curly black fingernails and half of my teeth missing.
To not make an effort to reach a goal is a choice. These are the complaints of passive people who take but don't give.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 6d ago
I’m late to the party, but I was thinking along those same lines. It’s not like she planned to fail… it’s that she failed to plan. If you live your life like a stream-of-consciousness novel with no plot, you’ll end up like her. She never reached her goals because she never had any goals.
She had dreams, perhaps, but until your dreams become goals and you put in the work towards achieving them, no progress will be made. Then you end up on the wrong side of perimenopause wondering why Prince Charming is on Instagram with a hottie half your age.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6d ago
"Just do what you feel like and Prince Charming will appear" is too stupid to be something that anyone could believe in. There's a reason they call 'em "fairy tales."
Nobody ever grew up thinking that they'd find a talking frog in a pond, or that a wolf could speak English and convincingly disguise themselves as a grandma.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5d ago
I see you’ve never met my grandmothers.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
@Land_of_the_losers This was such an amusing post. Here's what I think is mind blowing: Imagine if these women got a reprieve: A friend found a guy whose decent, "no bad habits" as Slavic women often say, who would wife them up but one condition:
She would have to go up to him, initiate the conversation, flirt/game him, and ask him out on a date and pay for the date. He would fall in love with her and be a wonderful companion and husband.
From conversations I have with women, most of them would decline even if the chances of success were high or even definite.
In the comments, they are upset that relatives and friends point out they're "too picky", "lazy", or "entitled" but yet that's precisely their problem. They hate people telling them the truth! I suppose it's none of their business but for their parents, it is. Heck, it's a parents' duty to give proper feedback to a child.
Larry Hagman, star villain of Dallas, was a notorious drinker. He had a glass of whiskey in his hand and his doctor called him and said to toss the drink out: His liver was failing. Hagman tossed it out and luckily got a liver transplant. He lived another few decades. He said "I thought I was charming because I drank but it turns out I'm just charming".
So Larry was capable of at least recognizing his choices, changed, and lived a few years longer due to the reprieve he was grateful to receive.
He says his daughters would bring guys home and then the guys would pay all their attention to him and ignore the daughters.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Gratitude is ucky man work!
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC8HcrwjCAY
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
Ahahaha "my prime years 39/40" killed me.
Yes we know, you precious darlings, its never your fault because then you'd have to look at the burning white alkali flats of your life and realize you fucked up, big time.
You will not be rescued, you will not get absolution from a guy that is willing to sacrifice what he's built to be with you.
I consider it earned obsolescence, an invoice due from your past selves callously and willingly trampling over guys that would've potentially paired with you.
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 6d ago
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6d ago
40 is the new 20!
Filthy is the new clean!
Rotten is the new fresh!
Burial is the new conception!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago
I'm thinking we're approaching the mass threshold for an entire generation of western women to collapse.
In the states, the question for men is: If you're 40, what's the point of getting married to these women? These women have "independence" attitudes that they're "set in their ways" and won't change their bad habits. They didn't pick up any useful talents to make a man's life better along with their awful baggage. They can't mend clothes (or they can, but they don't do it for you!) If they're clean freaks, they'll be griping you aren't "sharing the load" even as they refuse to go 50:50 on paying for dates.
They often make videos "I need someone to ADD to my life!" meaning that they want stuff from him, hypergamy, just to be around her. What this means is she considers a man's presence, by definition, to be a burden. Men are icky things, snips and snails and puppy dog tails.
Putting up with a "princess" like this is something many men did, either naturally or via social conditioning, due to a high sex drive and/or desire to have children. A 40 year old woman is like buying a carton of milk at a sketchy gas station with an expiration date of tomorrow. It MAY produce usable milk, but it's a gamble.On X, aging women got upset when I pointed out that a 40 year old woman is the equivalent of a 5'5" man. One got REALLY angry about it.
So when they say they're at their "prime" at age 40, because that's when they finally decide they want to stop going on paid dinner dates or banging chad, it's hilarious. They are so delusional they don't even understand how their dating market works, at all.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
I had to find this to repost, first thing that rocketed to the top of my frontal lobes when I read your reply - I didn't write it, but by god I wish I had. If it isn't allowed for some reason, delete, but I found it accurate and amusing.
Link - https://x.com/BackTheBunny/status/2111594871282921919
As a growth/value investor, I’d advise going long women here. The stock has never been lower. Sentiment couldn’t be more negative. Fundamentals are decent. Management is just catastrophically incompetent.
The board has been captured by HR. In fact, the entire enterprise is now just one big HR department. Classic corporate governance failure.
Thesis:
Women are a blue-chip consumer staple with highly inelastic demand. A once-great civilizational institution now being run like a nonprofit arts collective with a $90 billion DEI budget.
They abandoned the flagship business (being fertile cutie pies) into a low-margin, high-overhead product nobody wants (girlboss therapy sluts with fake email jobs) that mostly complains; spends all discretionary income on “boba tea” and “Sephora”; sends emails about emails and has meetings about meetings; and reallocates R&D into astrology, squiggly tattoos, SSRIs, and industrial-scale grievance production.
They have an insurmountable competitive moat on ass and smelling nice, coupled with a very horny customer base that’s remained buyers for millennia. Even at peak dysfunction, demand has barely budged.
Men have tried diversifying out of this asset class (video games, MMA, crypto, philosophy) to no avail. Every potential disruptor (AI gf’s, anime body pillows, sex robots, “Nietzsche”) has failed to find product-market fit.
A quintessential distressed-asset play. A disciplined operator (a husband) takes the company private (makes her delete Instagram), cuts non-core operations (having “political opinions”), and refocuses on the core product (being a darling kitten). Reinstate the affection dividend (lots of sex) and they can return to aggressive organic growth (being pregnant).
Expect a sassy proxy battle with the incumbent board (her group chat), outside counsel (her therapist), and entrenched institutional stakeholders (women with made-up master's degrees) to fight the deal.
However a hostile takeover from an activist PE firm or small military junta can easily turn this around: liquidate the fake-email-job division, discontinue the 67,835 ongoing self-discovery initiatives, and redirect capital back toward the company's historically profitable core business: being sweet ladies.
The plump assets are still there. The brand is iconic. The customer base is hopelessly loyal. We just need to get the business back to generating positive cash flow (litters of children) again.
Enormous upside potential. Generational buying opportunity.
I’m long $HOE
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
Amusing as this is, there is one fundamental that is being missed:
Any individual woman a man meets is currently at the best she will ever be from there on out. Women never improve with age. At best, they tread water and manage to not catastrophically destroy their value. But they never get any better. Even the ones that manage to do things like lose weight and exercise after a childhood stint of fatness tend to more often than not, bail on men that accepted them at their low in favor of "better". That's not improvement. At least not the kind a sane man should invest in.
So don't invest in any individual women that currently have no value. The only ROI you will get is negative. Only buy in longterm if her margins are good enough right now that she isn't going to be an overall loss after 20+ years of aging. Otherwise, stick to day-trading that pussy.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
Indeed. Once they pull the pin on the fat grenade, it's all over.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
I see your point, I think the original poster was being a bit sarcastic on the Long recco, only using it to fit the trading theme.