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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Yeah forget all those ugly, stupid women, they deserve nothing!
Yeah, if only there was a way to do this! I'm sure your high IQ mind will think of something!
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3d ago
She wants a handmaid's tale, except with guys being forced to reproduce against their will.
Of course, I bet she totally loves the handmaid's tale for its commentary on society's attempt to control women's sexuality. Maybe even watching it as she types out this post...
Truth is, she actually can have a baby if she wants one. Go to a sperm bank. No need for handmaids tale. Until science perfects an artificial womb, and egg donors are as easy to find as sperm donors, guys who want kids are at a distinct disadvantage here. But what she really wants is a man to share those parental duties. Which is fine, commendable, even. But if she's willing to go so far as to advocate for forcing men to knock up women like her, then, well, they'll probably not make great dads after being essentially raped into fatherhood.
Also, she doesn't get the irony here: she has a niece. That means either a brother or a sister figured out the secret to finding a partner and did the one thing her "high iq" couldn't do, and the one thing that evolution has programmed every living thing to do. But she doesn't talk to them about how they did it. Instead she makes a facebook post with her "woe is me" tale. Truth is, she probably did talk to them, and they said exactly what she refuses to hear: "your standards are too high, you're looking for the wrong man." And she stuck her fingers in her ears. Easier to post and get a bunch of validation from strangers that really she's totally fine and it's the universe's fault she failed to do something bacteria manage to do.
NB: also, it's "My niece and me". My first instinct was to make fun of her supposed high iq, but I suspect it's an even deeper defect. She puts herself first, before even the niece she supposedly loves, which is perhaps more accurate of the way she perceives the world, than following a simple grammar rule.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Indeed! Good point on the sibling thing. You can tell she's very jealous of her sibling and goes home to cry because she doesn't have children or a spouse of her own. This automatically puts her lower in the female hierarchy.
I think at least half of her desire for a husband and children is keeping up with her sibling. One of the most common complaints we hear from women who hit the wall is, "All my friends have gotten married, one by one, I feel like the only one left."
In other words, her friends fulfilled the biological drive every woman has, and somehow navigated the world of men to get one to commit to her, and had his babies. She is quite literally unsuccessful and knows it, even as the friends pat her head and say something like, "Someday you'll find your prince." Hence all the cope and blame. At the end of the day, there are not that many possibilities:
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
The mental acrobatics going on here to blame her own life decisions on men is honestly impressive in a way. Even if she has somehow completely failed to find even just one man who's willing to nut in her (press X to doubt), has this high IQ woman never heard of sperm banks? Highly doubtful... seems to me like the unsaid part of her ideal arrangement is a highly successful man who makes child raising a total breeze by throwing money at any possible slight inconvenience she might have. Of course those are in severely short supply, every woman wants one once she's done with her hoe phase.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
Like Patrick Clancy? His ex wife murdered his kids as a thank you.
Haha, once a hoe, always a hoe.
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 1w ago
"I need one of these."
Referring to a hairbrush, I hope.
HitTheRoadJill 1w ago
Yes ma’am, civilization is doomed because your sibling and in-law who made your niece aren’t as good-looking and smart as you. Any woman as pretty and high IQ as you also failed to marry handsome, high IQ man because of time wasting men. All the pretty, high IQ women civilization produces each year will make the same mistake until time wasting men are stopped.
I think her lack of children is a success of society, not a failure. Imagine being the child of someone this narcissistic.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
I'm chuckling about this particular woman's mentality illustrates so much that's at conflict in discussions in the past century.
Let's start with social darwinism: The concept that not only skin color and other appearance is subject to selection, but mental choices as well or for a better word, "character". Hmmm, I wonder where I have heard that word before? The content of a person's character...
Nearly every person who says "I hope someone who thinks like you doesn't breed!" is engaging in a notion of racial selection of dominant mental traits.
We know certain mental traits are absolutely genetic such as sociopath and psychopathy. That's why I wisely ran for the hills when a girlfriend told me she was bipolar. I'm not a polygamist!
Next, she asks for limits on chad's sexual behavior to excuse her own responsibility but those controls are two fold: 1) It would call for limiting her own choices as well (it's called Patriarchy!) 2) If these men were forced to marry young to get laid, even if she was a top-tier pretty high IQ woman, these men might have chosen someone else anyhow since she'd be just one chicken in the roost. 3) She claims she had plenty of marriage proposals from ideal men but turned them down due to "strong and independent". 4) @First-light If she's so high IQ and "strong and independent", why can't she just use her brains to grab one of these men now? Why are so many "strong and independent" women "feeling" a need for a protector/provider?
@Land_of_the_losers I refer to her as a radfem based upon her posts on X I read plus she's not submissive nor desiring a man to lock her up in the kitchen where she'll be safe. She wants to be bossy but yet also supported which shows that "feminism" is a movement of women's entitlement, not equality, hence why it's called womanism, not egalitarianism.
Regarding civilization and imminent doom: I chuckle that about 2 decades ago I read some snide feminist claim "women's rights are human rights" or "countries that have more women's rights are more westernized/developed!" Yeah, that's true. Plus more developed nations also tended to have other things such as decadence, white guilt, and so on. Rome did pretty well at one time also. They associated unchecked vices of developed civilization with what had actually produced them. Ironically, it was western men, the Patriarchy, that produced all of the goodies they take for granted and now they're griping they have to work 50 hours/week for "the man" to afford a condo on a payment plan.
The Patriarchy IS civilization.
HitTheRoadJill 1w ago
I was thinking more about her parenting of the child than her genetics, but the genetic aspect is also a good reason.
If she were even half as pretty and intelligent as she thinks she is, those men who were too good for her would have tried to keep her. Or a different man she found attractive and intelligent would try to keep her.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
I chuckle when I read “eff Dee ess” content and their version of game, it boils down to:
That’s it. Note nothing about figuring about how men think beyond that, hot-cold manipulation and so on. They know only one shtick.
For all their smarts, they are as inept as we were as teens. It’s like they played ms Pac-Man on level 1 for 20 years.
If she’s so smart she would be married with kids. Stupid is as stupid does.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
No man wants to be in a relationship with a nagging cunt who will constantly blame him for every little thing that goes wrong.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
That's completely counter-intuitive. I thought men enjoyed being blamed, used & lied to every other day. That's what the the FDS folks told me, and they're all in very successful relationships with top-tier Real Men who spend their time wearing Rolexes and buying paintings at auction houses.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3d ago
Rolexes are gauche. A discerning gold digger looks for a man with a Patek. And who doesn't need to go to an auction house because he'd rather trade pieces sitting in Swiss freeports with his oligarch pals!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2d ago
It doesn't matter what you say to these women. They ignore you and continue chasing Chad.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Yeah, them FDS hoes be the cream of the crop.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
This is the reason I rarely take women seriously. They're usually delusional or disingenuous. Sometimes both.
If I'm forced to respond to their nonsense, I'll smile and say "okay." Similar to how I'd respond to a retarded child who insists that 2 + 2 is "eleventy-seven."
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Did you know a submarine costs eleventy-seventy billion dollars?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7FaWnlhS4&t=10s
For those of you not familiar with this gal, she's a feminist who posts regularly on X bashing men and claiming she got proposed to by all kinds of hot men but still is angry at men somehow for "wasting her time" and engages in actual woman-ist activism (which I looked up).
@Typo-MAGAshiv This may be weekDAY content but it just popped in my feed so what the heck. Posting it now.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
I'll post this on Reddit.
It really reminds me of the one dating profile I saw a year or two ago in which the woman says she wasn't able to find a partner because she was in grad school. Which is like saying I wasn't able to take a dip because I was at the swimming pool all afternoon.
I was thinking "Hey, miss- I know I'm a layman who lacks common sense, but did you know that the kinds of men who go to dental school might become dentists? And the kinds of men in engineering school might become engineers? And the kinds of men in law school might go into law? Etc etc etc?" Ahh, but no. She wanted the man with the already-built career so that she can move in to his already-built dreamhouse.
Edit: This woman's complaint is so flagrantly silly, it beggars credibility. It turns out that other people have been controlling her vagina all this time.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
I belonged to It's Just Lunch 30 years ago and the women who ran it said "Professionals are too busy to find someone!" I thought the same thing: white collar professionals, whether male or female, are the most privileged people on the planet. Yes, there's often 50 or even 60 hour work-weeks but there is plenty of time to go out and meet someone or, particularly for professional women, a supply of young men around them.
They simply lacked the social skills, or effort, to initiate contact with the men around them.
In this woman's case, her gripe I suppose is that the men aren't passing her shit tests. She's a rad-fem and a Real Man should carry her massive emotional baggage as well as provide lots of money to satisfy her chivalrous urges. Everything (bad) is always Men's fault!
So she's having a public meltdown, online, and getting massive clicks for it. I'm reminded of the Anna Nicole show where MTV got huge ratings as Anna paraded her trainwreck life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12bbcspV-sk
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
I don't know her enough to say she's a Rad-Fem. But, if true, you really shouldn't live your life assuming that somebody that you've been backstabbing until now will step out of the woodwork and save your bacon at the critical moment when you've decided to stop gleefully advertising how much you don't fancy them very much.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
I guess she never had access to any sperm at any point, ever.
Pity. And she was unable to figure out a solution despite having such a high IQ, too.
Here I was, erroneously thinking she had the means of reproduction between her own legs but she was just a marionette of manipulative, string-pulling men the whole time. A helpless wind-up automaton plaything of fate and fortune. A twee little leaf blowing hither and thither upon the mercurial vicissitudes of life. ...As much ribbing as we might give to single moms, at least they don't pretend they're still virgins.
Bangkok 1w ago
Both might be true
Let me paraphrase
You snooze, you lose {to}
You suck dry, then you cry
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
"she was unable to figure out a solution despite having such a high IQ, too."
I was thinking the same thing. Since she is smarter than the rest of us, she would have out smarted the female competition to land a man and also used her "smarts" to outwit/trick us simple men to put a ring on it. I am trying to understand what went wrong? She had the system gamed.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Maybe my IQ is too low but I can't see the logic in what she is saying. Women are the choosers. If they choose men who are too high value and won't commit, how can they stop having their time wasted?
The only way that would work is to compel a Chad to marry the first woman who laid claim to him. Now presumably to lock her down, she would have to not be able to break up with him because by far the most breakups come from women. So how is this going to work Miss? I don't think any society has ever done that and the fact that ours locks men to women and piles responsibility on them has led to men avoiding women and commitment to them.
Pretty and intelligent are probably the 2 most attractive things a woman can be and yes I do think it is a failing of our society that more of them are not pushing prams in their early 20's. But it cannot be a failure of men. Women are the choosers. If choosers are turning into beggars, its because no one is volunteering to be chosen by the best quality women. If no one volunteers to be chosen to knock up pretty and smart woman, its because the woman will bring so much pain, drama, responsibility, emotional and financial cost and blame that it is enough to overcome the strongest urge a man has in his whole life. I would suggest therefore that it is a failing of society and of women.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
She's saying she needed the top-tier Golden Chad Of Her Dreams to commit to her heart, mind and soul-- and desire no other women-- before she could even consider having children. And it's all the Chads' fault for not giving her what she wanted, despite all the unspecified "dating" that she did, presumably for free and in her spare time with plenty of enjoyable orgasms on the side.
The fact that she posses a womb in the front of her jeans and probably had a mile of cock until now means nothing. None of that was her decision. Not the birth control pills she guzzled, not the condoms she insisted upon, not the copper cross-shaped IUD she requested for up her spout, none of it. Now it's everybody else's fault but her. The fact that a lower-IQ single mom has her beaten must be irritating to her.
Presumably, in college, she was similarly outraged that a hot man gets called a stud for having a fast car, good looks, good body and sleeping with lots of women like her, but she got a bad reputation for getting drunkenly passed around by Frat Row before vomiting all over herself. Which, of course, was not her fault because she was given those drinks and what're supposed to do when free drinks keep getting put in your hand by mischievous male fiends?
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Women are the gate keepers of sex. Women accept or reject men’s approaches. She makes the final decision, not the man. If she over plays her hand (SMV) and thinks she is a 10 rather than a 5, she most likely will lose i.e. be single. Thus, she is not as smart as she thought she was, for if she were, she would have realized what her real SMV was and taken corrective action. But this did not happen. She blamed men for her single status rather than herself. This is a typical flaw most women have, the lack of accountability. Thus, the rant that she is single and it is all men’s fault.