Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 12h ago
She has spotted a trend. I think the pivotal moment was around covid for several reasons but that was the moment the corner was turned even if it had been inevitably going that way anyway.
Men realised you were not worth it. Many of your were basically just living like that slags in the city series -getting heaps of attention and free food in return for doing what you wanted to do -be courted by everyone and banged by the hot ones, while complaining about the advances of the ones you thought were beneath you. Something had to change and it has. Thanks be to all the gods.
Now there is one thing I would take you up on here miss. I understand you feeling a bit sad that you won't get such a good ride on the carousel as your mum and aunt did before getting a perfect dismount into a grateful simp's arms. I don't want to be too hard on you for wanting fun. But you do have a slight misconception here -you say "The guy needs to like the girl just a little bit more than she likes the guy for a relationship to work" That is the simp model where guys bid harder and harder for women as women got freer and freer to choose. Those days are done. Its will be equality time in future. You will need to up your game miss. He is the prize. If you want that loving guy who things you are golden, you will need to prove to him you are by being good as gold.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5h ago
"The guy needs to like the girl just a little bit more than she likes the guy for a relationship to work"
This is a fundamental tenet of all Game, male or female.
I chuckle because this requires a fundamental sacrifice that many women regard as beneath them: The opposite of hypergamy: choose someone whose truly beneath your preferences and market availability. in other words, these Jedi mind tricks (usually) don't work on Chad as this woman bemoans recently: https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/325242/why_can_t_the_man_just_do_it
Back in grandma's day, women were HAPPY to get a short, working-class beta male who paid the bills, wasn't impressive to other women, and someone she had to give marital "duty sex" who worshipped the ground she walked on.
If she wants the modern equivalent of James Dean whose HOT and going to pass pre-selection, well, there's a strong likelihood that someone else is showing them interest or they're already taken, particularly if they're in the 95% percentile.
In response to @Typo-MAGAshiv point: Anita Hill and MeToo ushered in a new paradigm that women didn't want "losers" to hit on them whatsoever. You can't demand men play a "game" that you prohibit them from playing and, in that regard, they sort of did men a favor, didn't they? Was it good for men to be culturally indoctrinated into a permanent subservient role?
Her "bit more" qualification reveals a fundamental flaw with hypergamy: It constrains them into a lane. A wife who earns just slightly less than her husband threatens the marital happiness if she gets a huge promotion at work and suddenly, for reasons she can't explain, the "chemistry" is missing (his fault, of course, because "he's" insecure or "lacks ambition").
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 12h ago
This girl is hot enough that I can guarantee she has been approached, probably far more than any of her besties. And how did she respond to these approaches? How many decent 5-foot-8 guys didn't even get a chance to show their personalities because she said, "As if!" and waved them away?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 7h ago
GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A SAGUARO.
Ever heard the word "stalker" before?
No?
How about "creep"? SURELY you know that one.
Stop saying "men" when you mean "Chad". Stop it. Just stop it.
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Over the weekend, I attended a conference and I met a middle-aged woman from Uzbekistan. I was extremely chuffed that I could practice my (very unpracticed) Russian and (beginner level) Uyghur, which is a cousin language of Uzbek. She said I was the first person in Japan who knew how to speak a central Asian language, gave her 'goosebumps' and I must say that I was pretty damn pleased with myself. She introduced me to the location of some decent Central Asian restaurants in town as well.
It's weird. I always seem to make a much bigger first impression on people who don't speak English as their first language.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4h ago
35 years ago on the beginning of internet, a feminist asked me: "Why do you bother complaining about dating? You don't like women very much."
I ruminated over what she said because I realized she was right. Aside from their utter ambivalence towards me, they simply were not very pleasant to be around. They didn't share my interests nor were they actually interested in much of anything besides going to restaurants. Pei Mei put it best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VtfqAym5sQ&t=380s
Then when I left the USA for the first time, it was like going to another universe. Women could actually be pleasant to be around, have interesting, thoughtful things to say, interests and hobbies, and even a work ethic! This was before the internet and democratization of travel ruined many of them. I truly had won the lottery. Like you said, they usually spoke English as a second language, at best.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 6h ago
I dunno, sometime around when women started complaining about it? #metoo
Well, she almost figured it out there.
Men have learned that most women are NOT worth getting to know. We know how they operate now. We know their dualistic mating strategy. We know they are not worth persuing.
WanderOverYonder 5h ago
I'm finishing up my engineering degree and growing in my career, all in the midst of a current tech-corporate chaos. No way I'm pursuing any girls that aren't actively open, too much of a waste of time for a maybe-girl, I only care about yes-girls. Not interested? Thanks, next. No plates/no rotation? That's fine, more free mental space to work on my goals.
I don't know whether it's premature wisdom or lots of momentum in my daily life but I just cannot be bothered, dating or celibate doesn't really matter that much to me, each option has its upsides as long as I'm not stuck in a dead bedroom LTR that pussifies me or desperately chasing some mid-pussy. I've got plenty of interests and hobbies and I can only take some girl along, instead of making space specifically for someone.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 3h ago
Hard to say, lass...
Perhaps the right question to ask wasn't "Why aren't men approaching anymore?", but rather "How to incentivize men to approach again?". Unfortunately that would require admitting that men are just adapting to circumstances and aren't the root cause of this problem, and that's not gonna fly in this day and age.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 1h ago
Men have begun to reevaluate the risk/reward ratios of approaching women, dating them, and even marrying them. For many men, none of these scenarios offer enough reward to compensate them for the risks.
The risk/reward ratios were different in the 50s. That was due to many factors:
That's the tip of the iceberg.
Ultimately, a growing percentage of men believe dating and marriage hold less value and potential for them. Both are likely to saddle them with burdens and liabilities that aren't offset by the perceived rewards.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 43m ago
I still think if the division of marital assets was based upon the proportional income brought in by both parties during the marriage instead of being default 50/50 or otherwise auto-stacked in a woman's favor, we'd be seeing a lot less "unhappy" impulse divorces. We also might see more marriages forming to begin with if men weren't being auto punished in a divorce for being high income.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 22m ago
Wouldn't abolishing joint assets achieve mostly the same result with a fraction of the red tape?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4m ago
For the purposes/perspective of us mere proles, yes.
Legislatively however it would easier to get the powers that be to adjust the rules for division rather than doing away with the commingling entirely. Plus there are probably a fuckton of laws and statutes that would have to be revised that presume commingling. Etc.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ
@Typo-MAGAshiv Please provide guidance on flair (again). As on Jeopardy, it's Single Woman Tears in the form of a question...
Anyhoo, Happy Memorial Day everyone! Can someone solve this Scooby Doo Mystery?!?!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
I'll go with what you originally put: "The Big Question" but weekend edition because she doesn't meet rule 5.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
When did it all shift?
Around the 1990s, what your dad and uncle did and you called "pursuit" became legally known as "harassment" and carried stiff penalties.
It got even worse after hashtag #PoundMeToo.
Thank your sisterhood for making it suck so much that it's no longer worth it for men.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 17h ago
This woman's complaint ties into "why can't the man just do it?" https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/325242/why_can_t_the_man_just_do_it
In that men being the sole askers out led to women playing "hard to get" which led to outrageous demands limited ONLY via exceptional socio-economic moments in western history.
Back in the 1930's to 1960's, women "needed" to marry men before she was 25 or so therefore there was a balance that was disturbed when I came of age in the early 1980's. Once women had their own careers, riding the CC, becoming a corporate nun, meal whoring all became viable lifestyle choices.
I was seeing these cracks in the social contract even before Anita Hill tried to destroy a man's career for allegedly making a joke about pubic hairs on a coke can or "long dong silver".
It's not only the concerns you bring up but their outrageous demands of "pursuit". They mock men for coffee dates (unless he's Chad that they wish asked them out), shit tests such as refusing to call him and seeing if he texts her "too fast", and so on.
Does this woman in the video lament that relationships are harder to find now OR that she's yearning to abuse some men for the fun of it and the fools aren't lining up for abuse anymore?