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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ.
OK, I've seen this one before and I don't think it was posted so here goes. My apologies, @Typo-MAGAshiv for the video cutting off just short of the end. It was that way when I found it.
Flaring as Single Mom Tears, NOT Single Woman Tears for a reason (see why in the video). It can be reflaired if desired.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3d ago
Up on Reddit now :)
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago
That full story rule is @Kevin32's rule, and he originated it here. I just happen to agree with it and zealously enforce it!
But this is fine.
Oh, gee, thanks for the permission! Maybe I'll just flair it "PolishKnight is a dork!"
Ball-busting aside, this was a great find.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
I was a bit confused when she was crying for a family and then mentioned "my daughter". I thought maybe she meant it hypothetically but, considering her mental wits, that was doubtful.
What I like about her is her strange wisdom. So many women at this age are in utter denial thinking that men have no choices. Many men even believe this but we should strive to tell young men that they do have choices women lack. It's not IDEAL for men to start a family with a good looking mate at 40. I did. It wasn't the ideal path for me, but it was a path that largely most women can't hack due to sheer biology.
One of the strangest things women do is pay tens of thousands to freeze their eggs when, knowing they have a limited window, could simply just make basic efforts to get married. It's like someone buying travel insurance against getting mugged instead of just securing their baggage when they travel.
When we were teenagers, some of us benefitted from horror movies in high school drivers' ed where they'd show gruesome auto accident footage, like scared straight. Young women ought to be shown this.
Everpax 3d ago
Women slowly becoming aware that the narrative feminism sold them exists solely in their minds, and that The Wall cares not for such fantasies.
And now for the biggest test of them all: can they lower their expectations and get the family they so desperately want, or will they be doomed to forever searching for the Perfect™ Man?
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago
Then don't do it!
1) way to bury the lead
2) why aren't you with her dad?
I mean, you have the start of one. It just seems you cast aside one of the foundational pieces. So I'll ask again:
WHERE IS YOUR DAUGHTER'S FATHER?!
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 3d ago
It’s lede, not lead. Lead is already in the ground.
V-cards 4U!
Geez… I step away for a while and you all turn into Neanderthals.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago
Yet another example of misinformation from journalists!
Always have been [astronaut with pistol meme dot jpeg]
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Except what's in muh bullets. The lede can stay buried.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3d ago
AHAAAHAAHAAHAAAHAAAHAAA... what a hopeless ninny. AAAAHAAHAHAHAHAA... yeah, you're twenty five and you need to do things you don't want to do (presumably: sex acts). The men just sit back, lazily bide their time and watch you pay for their cocktails and cosmetic shopping sprees.
So this woman--- in her 20s-- is complaining about older men getting with women in their 20s...? And she's got her daughter as an only child.. and... wait, WTF is she even complaining about in this firehouse of hysterical resentment?? She can't get partnered up... but she can have a daughter... but she can't... but she can... but she can't... but she can... what's even the complaint she's got?
Ahh wait a second... she got fucked by a bunch of Chads. Ahh, NOW it makes sense. She's yelling at the Chads. "I WANT TO HAVE A FAMILY WITH A CHAD!!!" The Chads fuck her, but they don't love her. Sure, they SAID they liked her more than all the other girls... but it was just a ruse to fuck her and she keeps falling for it again and again. Damn heartbreaker Chads, now she needs to get revenge on all men for their arrogant fuckboying.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2d ago
She had a bad dream last night!
She dreamt that CHAD had come back! And then Chad stole Chad! And then Chad drove off with Chad and she ran down the street after them, and she yelled 'Chad! Chad! Chaaaaad'... And then her teeth fell out.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 2d ago
Wow, she is fucking unhinged.
THAT VOICE.
JudgeSmales 2d ago
Call me old-fashioned, but I'm not interested in any woman who thinks she needs a "fucking roster."
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
Oh dear, poor girl. She has not got the luxury of choice.
She had the choice but she chose to go get knocked up by a guy who ran away and become a single mum.
Women do have far more opportunity and power of choice than men but it comes very early to them and its short lived and very easily damaged irreparably.
The education of women is dreadful in the west. They are not taught how to protect and use their power. They waste it on the cock carousel.
On the plus side she realised this at 25. She just might be able to get a second rate man and lock him down if she stops all that slut shit and acts like she is nice to be around.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1d ago
I'm reasonably sure you didn't mean it as such but calling the man on her level second-rate smacks of shaming. There's nothing wrong with being a normal, non-Chad dude, particularly when contrasted against a hysterical single mother.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
This shaming rule can be taken a bit far. "A second rate man" - a man of less than prime quality- is not shaming language. Not all men are prime quality (myself included). Its nothing to be ashamed of its normal. The likelihood of her locking down a prime quality man when she has a poor temperament and a child in tow is very very low even though she is young and has no clear ugliness about her.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 18h ago
If anything, we've grown lax on it. Many of the more zealous enforcers have disappeared, and I've been letting more and more slide. For my part, the me from a few years ago would have taken more issue with this line (which I just let go by without comment until now):
The "she chose" clause redeems it, but "guy who ran away" reeks of our soycietal conditioned, knee-jerk reaction to always blame the man. How do you know she didn't use the power of family court to deprive the man of his daughter? How do you know they don't actually share custody? How do you know he even knows he's a father?
Back to WAATGM's rule 1: one of its most important functions is to keep commenters' focus where it belongs: on the woman, her choices, and her consequences. We have the entire rest of the internet as well as meatspace in which to shame and blame men. We don't do that at WAATGM.
Further reading:
PSA: We are not here to shame beta men by @moorekom (and additional commentary by other mods within the thread)
"NO SHAMING MEN FOR ANY REASON" is Rule #1 For a Reason by @lurkerhasarisen (also with additional commentary from other mods with the thread) I
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 11h ago
I promise I am trying to stay within the rules. You can tell from the rest of what I post that I am not about trying to shame men. I care very much about men. Its the main reason I am here.
She chose to get knocked up by someone and that guy is not her man now. I was assuming her ran away from her (because I would have -she seems a bit unhinged) but she could have been the runner. Women usually are the runners aren't they come to think of it. I was enjoying criticising her personality too much to be too worried about facts. It was a failure, I accept but I wasn't criticising the guy. A guy ran away. Its not a moral statement, its a factual statement (Albeit, I accept, its quite possibly incorrect). When a woman is intitled and unhinged, its often the only way for a man to stay non suicidal.
I will continue to try to keep to the rules but I do feel that this rule is limiting when it is absolute as opposed to "well it depends if he is blaming men for women's actions)" I appreciate that the absolutism is reactionary against a situation where men are over criticised by society and woman are under criticised. I am, however, not sure that one moves forward too well by reactionary thinking. Its a first step when under attack -secure the perimeter- but then a group has to move past it if they are to go on the offensive. Its the left who create safe criticism free spaces isn't it? Its one reason their ideas are such easy targets. They are not forged in debate or against hard facts.
You are a philosopher. Free will is an interesting concept isn't it? How free is free will? Not all choices we make are truly free. Where does determinism end and freedom begin? In fact it is also strongly arguable that without a degree of determinism in the world, free choices are not worth much. Over my life I have come to realise that the self evident fact that women have less agency in the world -weaker, less rational, more hormonal, less valuable to others, need to raise small children etc- means that many of their free choices come at or with greater cost than male free choices. It also means that determinism or at least deterministic thinking is a lot more attractive to them. Its a lot easier for them to take a path offered by someone else that they just buy into or to accept free shit on offer (they have many more options for free shit than men). We do need to accept that women tend to have more deterministic world views than men and they feel that their lives are determined by men's choices. (Note I say "feel" not "are")
I think its important to explore the background to women's free choices. Some of that background is determined by men's actions. However, these days most of the problems start with women taking an easy path -which is in their nature. When this comes up against male free choices, you then naturally get more problems for women as they have less agency. The gynoentric state seeks to redress this by granting them rights and heaping penalties and responsibilities on men but I think its healthy for us to explore the full interaction of male and female choice and determinism.
Anyway I know I will lose this one but it still feels like I should say what I feel to be important. Its one of the good things about men. They will speak against the hive if they think the hive is wrong and they will then still accept the rules because they value the group.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 7h ago
I've made this point numerous times in response to pushback against rule 1 and it perhaps bears repeating here:
"No shaming men," while absolute (in intent, if not in practice since our mod staff has atrophied over recent months), doesn't mean you're not allowed to criticize a man's poor behavior. It does mean any such feedback should be fundamentally constructive, such that if the man in question were to find his way here and read it he'd have concrete advice upon which he could act to immediately improve his situation.
This may seem a matter of semantics but I believe it to be an important distinction.
That said, I agree with you regarding the fundamental hypoagency of women. In a properly ordered society this would be accounted for through legal and social restrictions on women's behavior, as was the case historically.
Sadly, we do not live in such a society.
We here understand women generally aren't equipped to handle life as fully autonomous moral agents. Until such time as the social and legal structures of the society in which we live acknowledge that as well, however, those of us in possession of said understanding must be strategic in our deployment of same.
...damn it. I had a point I was building to with all this but I got distracted while composing this reply and I'm afraid it's flown the coop. Hopefully there's still something of value to be mined from my thoughts above.