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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
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TJMS 1d ago
Not meeting the "perfect guy" = not trying to meet the "perfect guy." She almost undoubtedly had plenty of opportunities before 22.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 5h ago
Most women will at some point say something like this;
"I have discovered that the perfect guy doesn't exist"
And they will all nod sagely. It will be when they hit 40. They will be sitting around, sipping some wine. And they will think that they have unlocked the secret of the universe.
But they are very far from understanding themselves. Because here is the actual truth: if we could create the perfect guy, and hand it to them when they were 25....THEY STILL WOULD NOT CHOOSE HIM!
Why? because they don't want the perfect guy. They want drama, hook ups, situationships, toxicity. They want the the thrill of being treated like the dog shit that they are.
I have long given up on thinking that women would be better off understanding men. They do not even understand themselves!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3h ago
Back in the 1980's, a woman friend told our friend group it was now the rage for early 20's women to deny they wanted to marry otherwise other women would shame them. I've seen tiktok videos of mentally burned out women bemoaning a lack of attraction for men in general as any man, even those she regards as perfect, doesn't give her "tingles" because by definition any man showing an interest in her is beta vibes. They want that special balance of a man who pursues her but doesn't seem "needy" in any way.
Sort of like this: "I wouldn't want to be in a club that would have me".
Like you said, they don't understand themselves because they resist any introspective thinking that might produce a disadvantage for her. Their self-help books and Eff-Dee-Ess are largely just reminding them to do what they already know: Make demands, raise "standards", find things to gripe about, and plan to be alone in case it doesn't work out. Particularly the latter as they say they're "happy" alone.
The fundamental basis of morality is to hold oneself accountable because only then can one relate to others. Am I the baddie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
I was waiting for someone to catch on that phrase "perfect guy".
Back when women had enough guile to put on a pretense of reasonability, they would say something such as "looking for Mr. Right" and some would joke "Doctor Right". Merely a fit for her, not someone who meets her outrageous "standards".
We're in an era when even a 22 year old can't land the kind of men that they commonly think they "deserve" EVEN IF they tried: 6 feet, $200K/year, highly educated, socially liberal but also chivalrous, works out but isn't a gym rat.
Ok, maybe they COULD if they really worked hard including doing everything modern PUA's need to do and then some: Massive approaches, rejection, and personal introspection but they don't want to do that of course. They just want to sit around and wait for an "opportunity" to approach them or at most, swipe on an app.
This is what they need to hear: EVERYONE has to settle. It's the condition of being human. Even the most accomplished, successful men don't get EVERYTHING they want.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
Well, gee, sounds like women should both feel some urgency during the period of their lives wherein they have the most bargaining power, and also be realistic about what they can obtain via that power; or risk being treated like a dumbass that waited too long while playing a game of musical dicks.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 21h ago
You can shush me madam.
You can't shush the wall. The wall has no damn grace.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 5h ago
The wall is undefeated.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 21h ago
For future content, a lot of these women gripe on *Ch)eddit(t) and X about how they hate being "grilled" by relatives at holiday dinners such as "Do you have a boyfriend you're serious with?" or "When are your going to settle down and have kids?" This is nothing new, of course, in that such entitled women have been griping about their losing game-of-chicken since "women's lib" began.
I can see their point in that who likes to sit down to dinner and asked as you start putting mashed potatoes on your plate: "So... have you started a diet to lose weight yet?"
That being said, as the Oompa Loomps rhetorically asked: "Whose to blame?" Answer: "The mother and the father!"
If they wanted grandkids and to not have some spinster picking through their bones when they pass away as she tries to cobble together some retirement plan for herself, they ought to educate her through her teen years as to her massive albeit perishable natural assets and options. That mommy and daddy were not perfect human beings and settled with each other and that's far more romantic and loving than waiting around for a Perfect Man is.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 6h ago
This is gold. Why? Because in her rage, she actually accidently tells the truth. And here it is;
"Most women don't want to start having babies at 25"
Why? Because there is so much dick to have have from 16 to 36. That 20 years on the CC is not something that any modern woman wants to miss. The drama, the toxic situationships, the getting railed by chads, the hook ups, the booty calls.
They want 20 years of getting ploughed by men far above their SMV on the pecking order, and then, and only then, find a BB to stick the landing.
We know. We get it. You're a 5 and you prefer being pumped and dumped by 9s over having a stable relationship (children, a family, a home) when you are in your early 20s.
That's fine. It's ok to have a preference.
But here's the thing: everything comes at a cost. In economics, its called 'opportunity cost' and its the one thing that women really dont seem to understand.
You can spend your fertile years on the CC, but it comes at a cost. The cost is family, legacy and a lifetime as an inspin, with only wine and cats to drown your misery.
Welcome to the famale lonliness epidemic. Have a nice day.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 6h ago
Have you noticed how much women go on about being 'judged'? 90% of their wailings is all about not wanting to be judged, about how other people 'can't judget them'.
I find it very revealing.
I have had this exact convo with my partner. She starts up about 'being judged'........
Guys, if any of you have a daughter, tell them this;
"You will be jugded every day, by everyone, for everything you have ever done, not done or failed to do. Judging is how humas interact with each other, and nobody gets a free pass, nobody. Bear this in mind when you are making decisions. Nobody is going to save you from judgement. Not even men.
You will be the product of your own decisions, the way you live your life, the things you choose to do or not do. The sooner you realise this is how the world works and stop complaining that 'its not fair' the sooner you will actually become an adult. There is nothing sadder than a 35 year old that still doesn't know what accountability is, and rails at the world for 'not being fair'."
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4h ago
Yes, and it's a shortening and perversion of Christ's command:
So the unsaid corollary to that is: as long as you meet the standard by which you are judging, judge away!
Christ despised hypocrisy, that's all.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4h ago
Ironically, this is perhaps what produces these "strong and independent" delusions of recent years.
They THINK they've "leveled up" so they can demand hotter men and there's some logic to this: If a man has a great job, then he can pull hotter women. So if she gets a great job, she can pull hotter men. The "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" Lorelei rationalization.
The PROBLEM with this thinking is they also demand that the man still live up to provider stereotypes and earn at least or more than her. Her income is not meant to make his life any easier.
And again, there is logic in that there are men who want a woman to be employed but this is largely an intellectual compatibility or defensive maneuver: A woman with a job can't demand alimony in a divorce or he doesn't earn enough money to be a sole provider.
And again, here's where the double standard rears its head: A "basic" income counts for NOTHING with modern women including, to my amazement in my youth, most working class women. Many working class women have feminist tendencies to think that a man earning a living no longer should impress her. He has to be incredibly wealthy to move the dial and can't "lead" with his income to drive attraction.