Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
Created by kevin32
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1h ago
Fixed that for you.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3h ago
Women levelled up??
Women levelled up for themselves. That is fair to say. They now have the opportunity to get more of what they desire from life, especially when young. However from men's point of view women nose dived in quality.
Remember how you ladies like to list all the attributes the man you will "settle for" must have. Well men have some things they like too. Unselfish, respectful, loving, home centred, nurturing, unspoilt, that sort of thing. The education of girls in no way makes them any use to men. Women dropped off the chat in quality.
Men got afraid to ask for a few generations. That has changed now. The quality of women has also fallen so much they are not buying used up selfish women who bring nothing but demands any more.
So madam, enjoy the vantage poit you levelled up to. No one is coming to rescue from that cliff top.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens.
Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ
I have noticed the X algorithm throwing inspins at me lately or it may be that it turns out that the age when women first started hitting the apps is bearing mature fruit (pun intended) as their generation starts to hit four-zero. It's been nearly 20 years since the introduction of the iPhone and when women started to use "computers" as often as men. Until then, it was largely Real Men who sat in front of high voltage electron accelerators hitting phosphor screens burning out our eyes.
@Vermillion-Rx has set up a page on X to share new inspins as they post: https://trp.red/t/1fv3
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago Stickied
Tag @vermillion-rx - do please make a standalone text post about this, flaired "announcements" which is normally reserved for mod use only.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2d ago
Will do later today
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2d ago
Yeah there is a fuck ton of amazing inspin content on X when you do happen to come across it
Will put more effort into bookmarking and adding to the list
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
Aaah, CRTs. Heavy as fuck, de-gauss 'boing' sounds. Still would take OLED or whatever flavor of LCD display just for the weight difference alone.
I do wonder what the fallout will be from generations of women hooked to their pocket validation machines.
Do they just spiral out and finally kick their habit? (Mostly because they have to, nobody wants to hit on grandma.) The level of mass hysteria at becoming invisible will be something to see...
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
Fun story: I have a poor friend in Poland who would take my leftover electronics. I had a 19" RGB monitor with separate cables and a COOL VGA to RGB converter cable. The thing was HUGE. I mean hernia huge to move it on a desk. Wonderful monitor and great resolution but I didn't need it anymore for some reason (I think I upgraded to a Sony).
So I, get this, brought it to him on Lufthansa flight via Warzszawa. Just under the weight and size limit. I put it in a big box with styrofoam. He LOVED it.
In the meantime, my beloved Norwegian Forest cat loved my Sony monitor that put out a bit of heat. He'd sit on it and stare at me while I coded. He was always with me and when I was gone, he'd roam the neighborhood killing things. When he passed away after 17 years, I finally retired the Sony.
wswZtyqNGQ 1d ago
While that's a fun turn-of-phrase, I'd still like to take a moment to reassure you that none of these whores will ever wind up having grandchildren. And this is a good thing for the genepool.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1h ago
Minor quibble here. MLK famously said "content of character" implying that race wasn't tied to character but yet many people who otherwise criticize social darwinism commonly engage in social darwinism: Eliminating people from the gene pool to improve society.
As many people who have undergone torture or psychological conditioning can attest, it's difficult to resist. Are we really breeding out selfish, irresponsible women or has our society sadly just collapsed to be replaced by others with a mere survival and breeding instinct?
Han: [petting a white, longhaired kitty cat] "This is my museum. It is difficult to associate these horrors with the proud civilizations that created them: Sparta, Rome, The Knights of Europe, the Samurai. They worshipped strength, because it is strength that makes all other values possible. Nothing survives without it. Who knows - what delicate wonders have died out of the world, for want of the strength to survive." -- Enter the Dragon
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 2d ago
..... and yet women still offer nothing more than whining and exploitation.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago
I AM THE TABLE!!!
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1h ago
When women say "I am the table", they are claiming that they are the very reason the relationship exists for, like the man is there to serve her needs and that he needs to know his place, and if for some reason she becomes bored with the relationship, he just has to "fight to keep her" which provides her with validation and possibly more resources.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
I have a whole thesis I'm preparing for WATGMA. A TABLE provides a function of presenting foods and goodies to people arrayed around it. To give one an idea of a table's value, go to a dinner party where they give you plates and drinks and you stand around trying to balance your food and drink while talking to people...
Therefore, she isn't the table.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago
Tables are useful. Women who claim they're the table aren't.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
Agreed, its just a low-effort rejoinder they throw out there because they don't have anything of substance to offer, except what their bodies are equipped for.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago
No, he's just learned that most of you are bitchy and entitled, and not to waste his time.
Right according to whom? Did any man tell you he wants a woman with a great career? Or did you listen to moronic feminists who told you to mold yourself into the man you wanted?
Have you ever heard a man fawn over a woman's career, as if it made him more attracted to her? For my part, the only times I've heard men discuss their wives' or girlfriends' careers, it was just matter-of-fact ("yeah, she's a teacher") or with regret for not seeing it as a red flag ("she's an attorney, and it sucked").
"Just look at the degrees and career on her! Yowza!" - No Man Ever.
Men tell women what we want. Unlike women, we're straightforward and honest. You women just refuse to listen, and dismiss what we say as "insecurity" or some other nonsense.
No, you really want better due to your hypergamy. Your "equal" would be bare minimum for what you'd accept, most of the time.
Solution: stop wasting your fertile years pursuing education and careers that no men care about.
You're welcome.
because of the women and their dissatisfaction! You dumb bitch!
DIS STOOPID BITCH!
Oh great, another retard who thinks the manosphere is a monolith.
No, not always.
Women deserve it.
Commitment in our current soyciety offers no benefits to men. And I say this as a man who has been married for 20 years.
Because you're a bunch of retards leading yourselves astray. I'm sure you've heard the phrase "blind leading the blind". Women advising each other is retards listening to retards.
I remember a comment @bobbingforbunions had at the WAATGM subreddit several years back (I wasn't even endorsed yet, that's how long ago this was) that said something like:
I still remember it after all these years because it made me laugh my ass off, and because it's so fucking true.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
Your paraphrase puts it much better than I did years ago.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago
I disagree, but thanks!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
This truly was so much meat packed into a few sentences, wasn't it?
I chuckle about her saying they did everything right in their 20's. I'd ask them: How many men did you approach? That's not to say: "Hi, I want to date you?" but social skills and basic game men are expected to play. "Game" that women a century ago such as my great-grandmothers learned including Roosh's infamous "Elderly Chat". If there's a short supply of Chads, either young or older, they could engage in approaches and risk rejection.
I have seen a number of posts on X of "Us women are so much hotter now and men haven't kept up!" which is amusing because even if their thesis was true, that means they should be upping their game to compete for that "dwindling" supply of men but apparently "keeping up" doesn't include the measures above. It's not just the higher income and hotter men they think they're entitled to, but a "chivalry" from the 1950's on steroids.
My father asked my mother out for vanilla cokes at Woolworth's. Not even coffee or a free meal.
Further gold in her remarks are the "manosphere" tells men to not commit, but as I said elsewhere, these women have been taught to treat marriage as "oppression" and saying they want marriage is "desperate". They also treat men who are marriage minded as pathetic betas while going for players. This is all projection and excuses on her part which poses a problem:
She can make all the excuses she likes, but it won't get her anywhere. No white knight is going to ride to her rescue. It's just hamster cope for her to go eggless into old age.
No shaming play (Rule 1) but men who are quitters like his are called out and in some ways, if done gently, appropriately if it's to say that even if it's not your fault, you can either choose to accept the blackpill or do something else. For all this shaming talk they of men who aren't "stepping up", it's because they associate adult responsibility with men.
Quite frankly, women like this need to grow up but at age 40, that's unlikely.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
She couldn't date anybody in her twenties. She was too busy doing everything "right". And now, poor thing, she's being punished for her excessive magnificence.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
Gee, you attended no parties whatsoever when you were in school?
This may shock, but I hear that the dudes in engineering school tend to become engineers, the dudes in business school tend to go into business and the dudes in medical school often go into medicine. Why, maybe the dental students tend to go into dentistry and the law students tend to go into law and the public administration students tend to go into public administration and the architecture students tend to go into architecture!
Those all sound like sturdy careers, but I guess you couldn't have talked to any of them while you were doing everything "right"? You were "too busy"? No time to attend any of the extracurricular student events or clubs or internship opportunities that litter campuses and spruce-up a resume while job hunting?
There are a lot of couples who met in grad school or through their student jobs. Even a disgusting mutant like me managed to go on dates back then. Don't pull my friggin' leg.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
It's astonishing how dating has dropped off in high school. Probably similar to college: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HAzA0yiaAAUE806?format=jpg&name=medium
Likely this is due to MeToo, Anita Hill, and so on but I have another theory: I observed when I went overseas just how much more comfortable women were with men overall. I recall in my youth that women just were more comfortable chatting with men than they are now. A European girl remarked that it was strange to her how the American women mostly socialized with other women while it was more co-ed where she was from.
In other words, I think that women such as this simply didn't LIKE men very much. They like STUFF from men such as goodies and such but overall avoid interactions with men unless it has a purpose: Her professor, father, close friends she knows, and so on. They don't "talk to strangers" much.
They "like" an individual man, of course, if he GIVES her everything she wants (including tingles) but overall, they are closed to men by default. When he fails some shit test, or she gets "bored" or the astrology signs are off, whatever, she loses interest.
This may likely be exacerbated by the smartphones, obviously. They already are barely talking to men and relate closely to women, so they further sharpen their lack of engagement skills with men while interacting in only their "safe" networks.
I have an interesting analogy to this: the potato famine. In cruel social and economic darwinism, things get fixed via dieoffs. An entire generation, or two, of women will witness hitting 40 as they look up from their smart phones and realize "Wait!?! Those men I ignored for the past 20 years. Why am I not having them beg to buy me stuff as I want to have kids RIGHT now?!?!"
It's going to be quite the shitshow and I should have backlog content for this forum for a while.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
I wouldn't be surprised if the drop-off in the early and mid-2000s was greatly accelerated by social media and smartphones. Ugh, I feel very lazy typing that out-- people blame "social media" for far too many things nowadays and it's far too easy to say-- but in the late 90s through the very early 2000s, online dating was still pretty fresh and new and wasn't turned into a complete shitshow. I started using the Internet before social media and I never got into it. I never saw the point in posting 14 pictures of my breakfast to Instagram.
Generation X was possibly the last generation which needed to deal with information technology as a tool instead of it being the center of one's social life. With a 4800 baud modem and FTP, you're not swapping videos about every idiot thought that pops into your head. Similarly, cryptocurrency looked to me like a dubious investment 10 years ago; instead, I bought boring, dirt-cheap REIT funds and got a steady dividend check each quarter. It turns out that office & retail space, residential units and industrial cold storage warehouses don't evaporate into nothingness due to a hacker.
When I deal with younger women on the MillionaireMatch site, within 3 paragraphs they're already asking for my Whatsapp info. Which I'm certainly not going to provide them with. I'm not going to say that my old stodgy ways are better, just that they feel qualitatively different.
I certainly feel old today. I was prescribed custom insoles with extra arch support just last week because my ankles have been lightly aching for the last 9 months. That's the oldest-sounding goddamned thing I've ever typed out.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
Try typing all this on a phone where you have to hit the 1 key twice to get to b, than the 2 key twice to reach e...
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
Dude.
I say that shit all the time. I used OLD from 2002 until 2004, and it was fucking awesome.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
I'm glad you can agree with me on something, haha.
Let me know when you're coming to central Japan.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
We agree more than you think, and will do!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
Match.com? I met my wife on it.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
I used several platforms. The biggest and best one for me was Yahoo Personals (I met most of my lays (including my wife) on this one), but I also had some decent results with hotornot, facethejury, AIM, and Yahoo Messenger.
RL encounters was probably number two behind Yahoo Personals.
I recall I met at least one or two from each of the others.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
I remember ICQ fondly as well.
Perhaps there was something about the intent of sitting down in front of a high voltage electron accelerator viewscreen that made the women more thoughtful. In Odessa, Ukraine there was a wonderful internet club, "Pa-ook" (Spider) where the women were all on ICQ and the guys playing FPS. I'd surf the web, comment on forums such as this, grab a beer, and people watch. Good times. New posting up! Not sure on Flair so tagging you.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
I loved ICQ, but I don't remember actually getting laid off of it.
I do recall one particular conversation I had on there while trying to get laid and/or find a girlfriend.
She was a single mom, and was pressing for marriage and commitment right out the gate. We didn't even know each other's locations yet (at least not that I recall), and neither of us had seen a picture of the other one.
Bear in mind that I was still a virginal AFC at this point (1999, 2000 or so).
I told her that while I'd love to get married sometime, it wasn't going to be to a single mom. I was down for some fun, but no marriage or provision.
Her reply was something like, "a man's entire purpose is to provide. Are you a man or not?"
Even as a virginal AFC, my reply was "I'll gladly provide, but only for my own kids."
I thought she had to be an anomaly, as I had never encountered such brazen entitlement before that, even from other single moms. Boy was I wrong! Most of them just hid it better, at least at first.
Over the last couple of decades, though, more of them are acting like random-ICQ-chat-woman.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
I'm thinking of a post for WATGMA regarding our "purpose is to provide". Feminism claimed if women got all these rights, us men wouldn't need to be babysit them anymore. They'd be adults. Instead, with hypergamy, they only got greedy. If she made lots of money and was "provided for", by herself, then HER money would be for designer bags and for her "fun" and a "provider" is to pay the bills. It's similar to noblemen who spend wealth on fox hunts and lavish golden chamberpots while the serfs are expected to work and grow the food.
The very phrase: "a man's entire purpose to provide" is especially dehuMANizing: It's not that you're an ATM machine to her, but that's ENTIRELY what you are. The second she locked you down, it's dead bedroom because who screws their ATM machine?
A neat retort to her, not fully accurate but a fun one, would be: "Your ENTIRE purpose was to choose and be loyal to a good man whose there for his kids. Did you do that?"
JudgeSmales 1d ago
I don't "resent successful women." The cute waitress down at the pancake house is so much nicer to me, that's all. Don't take it so personally, Miss Educated.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
The whole "men are intimidated by my success line" always seemed like a sideways confession of "I am disgusted by unsuccessful men."
Similar to how it's more palatable and self-protecting to say "short men are insecure about their height" instead of "I am disgusted by men who are the same height as me".
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 22h ago
In a discussion a few months ago on X, one of them told me she was disgusted by incels. Period. She didn't bother to quantify it as "I'm disgusted by bitter and angry incels" but merely men who were perceived as unable to get sex revolted her.
I utilized my usual retort to this shaming ploy by telling her I got professionals when I needed sex and then I could actually feel the static electricity go off on my phone as she responded "Isn't that technically being an incel?"
Perhaps in their minds, they want to define men as human beings based upon his ability to "provide" or meet her demands in a transactional sexual relationship: She has total power over time and space as she defines a man's existence based upon what she wants out of him utilizing sex as the leverage to do so. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQcSQ3VnYOaNLKJPIeyHEdL8_YCMhNIkpDbWg&s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rMsgmaBV8g
One of the ironies of the situation is that the majority of "incels" they encounter are actually the ones who do NOT pander to them. Even an incel in his basement has at least some self-respect to not butt his head into a brick wall over and over again.
The game worked best for them when they really did reward most beta male behavior with transactional sex and a spin of the marriage wheel that they stood a 60% or so chance of not getting divorce raped.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 21h ago
A pertinent question which comes to my mind is if she is more disgusted by incels than she is by the likes of Harvey Weinstein. I guess I'd be amused by a woman who is actually spiteful enough to say "I'd rather get in bed with a publicly-known rapist than speak to an incel".
wswZtyqNGQ 8h ago
To addicts, all people are addicts. To corrupt people, all people are inherently corrupt. To whores, all men are Johns. In all cases, it's the way their brain processes their shame and makes sure that they don't feel bad for how immoral they are acting. In other words: "if everyone is doing what I'm doing then I'm not doing anything wrong."
Modern women are indifferentiable from corrupt addicted whores. Even their conscience is exactly the same. That makes them bad people, but also very easy targets to get what you want from them.
TJMS 1d ago
Yup, they confuse "intimidating" with "unattractive."
WalmartDemon 1d ago
I call bullshit for 500. Women want to marry UP. Ideally someone who makes it possible to instantly drop all pretense of her "career" and become a fulltime Instagram cringe poster with her favourite game being called "Keeping up with the Janeses"
Again with the bullshit. A ton of women got affirmative actioned into positions where none of them belong and require an army of actually capable men to sort out the trail of destruction they leave behind.