Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago Stickied
Mod note:
OP, it seems you've forgotten about this announcement (which is still stickied at the top of the WAATGM forum).
Please add a comment with a link to the full sanitized video as per that announcement, and I'll sticky that comment above this one rather than taking this post down. It's a good find, so I'd hate to do that, but we need to prevent accusations of fakery when possible.
For future reference, do please post the sanitized videos in the first place in compliance with that announcement.
edit:
I found the original, and here it is sanitized and uploaded to streamable.com.
Do please post only full sanitized videos in the future; still shots will be removed.
TJMS 3w ago
The music reminds me of "Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want," the greatest whiny song of all time. Seems somehow appropriate.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Fuck me sideways - when I click on that short video and just look at the face of the woman that posted that meme....she manages to convey such insanity with just the way she is looking to the camera. It's a combo of intense vanity, entitlement, lack of shame or self awareness. She just looks mad.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4w ago
Yep. Like most women, she thinks men owe her things such as time, attention, commitment, etc.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
CC: @moorekom, @woodsmoke, @Impressive-Cricket-8, @MelkorHimself, @houseoftolstoy, @Land_of_the_losers, @deeplydisturbed
TJMS 3w ago
Um, sweaty, men don't owe you provisioning or caretaking. They aren't accountable to you for these things.
As for aging out of the dating apps, take it up with biology. And where was this bitch's concern when young, unestablished guys couldn't get a second look in the dating world?
And anuddah thing! ...
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Reminder that women only view men rated 8 or above as human. They don't even see 7s and below, and when they're talking about "men" they are not talking about 7s and below. Most dont want to end up barren spinsters and in their mind, she will settle for a man she deems inferior. Somebody is gonna marry them after 35 and completely ignore their past
They had no problem with age gap relationships when they were participating in them, but now that it no longer benefits them it's a problem, and men are to blame for the activity they participated in when it suited them. Very strange to shame and covet the men they wouldn't look at ten years ago. Maybe you should have locked them down then, old lady. There is nothing more expensive than regret. Sadly, because it's women we're dealing with, we will be made to pay the cost of that regret and the state will back them at every step.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Found a gold nugget, gentlemen. Get out there and get your shit in order!
hhhhdmt 1mo ago
I personally do not care. I am 33 and will only date women in their early to mid 20's. Sorry but i am not dating someone who spent her youth sleeping with other men.
Durek_The_Bald 1mo ago
I don't see much "happening" with that, really. Women will always complain, no matter what. If 90% of millennial women were married with children, they would still complain. I mean, we've already been there, and it ended with women organising into complaint ideologies, having huge complaint marches, and kick starting soft sciences built on having a bunch of complaints.
Women are biologically wired to always have complaints at hand, and to feel like everything is unfair. It's part of the psychology of being a hypergamous creature (never really satisfied), and reproductively the most important/valuable members of the species (it's assumed that when a woman has a complaint, it's society's job to address it).
Men have strength and competency, women have wombs and complaints. This forms the basis of the power balance between men and women. Women rarely act on their complaints themselves. And when men don't do it for them, well, you just get more complaints. Women aren't going on killing sprees anytime soon. And whatever they try to organise politically will be very weak without a good amount of men onboard.
It's like with women's soccer: Women love to complain about it not being as popular as real soccer. But are women - who constitute half the population - going out of their way to buy tickets and TV subscription to watch women's soccer, thereby making it into a huge sport with lots of money in it? Of course not. They need men to care about it for it grow into anything substantial. And so it is with pretty much anything .
So nothing is going to "happen" unless men decide to fix their complaints for them. Sure, there will always be men ready to pounce on the opportunity for a bit of white knighting. But overall, it's pretty clear to me that each generation of men is becoming less and less receptive to the complaints of women, as the complaints market becomes more and more saturated with increasingly idiotic complaints.
When you grow up with this shit constantly in your ears, you become immune to it. You don't need to look further than at the voting habits of young men and young women respectively to see that play out. It's never been more polarised, which goes to show that young men simply aren't listening anymore, even deliberately trolling the complaints of women.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
It's possible for woman to harness the instincts behind complaining, turning them into motives for improving herself. But it takes years of male guidance, getting her desires denied many times, having friends that do not complain, and strong habits of thankfulness/contentment.
My wife never complains because there's simply no reason to do so. All the incentives have been removed. Same with my daughter. Whining and complaining gets them the opposite of what they want, so there is no reason to.
When complaining becomes "white noise" men will just tune it out, as you said. So women develop new strategies. They threaten divorce, use other women allies as a force multiplier, get louder, act depressed/insane for attention/pity, and even get violent at higher rates than men.
Their complaints are their action, heh.
Once my mother threatened to kill me with a butcher knife by waving it in my face as she yelled at me. Hilarious thing is I have no memory of what she was actually whining about. She knew she couldn't get my attention and had to resort to threats and violence. By that point I had already tuned out her lecturing/yelling.
Yeah, I fear for this nation based on that metric alone. Men with no families and no prospects to that end have nothing to lose, and every reason to attack and destroy the system that hates them. Gonna get ugly out there.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Fuck yeah! Going long on popcorn. Let's watch it BURN.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Even women prefer mens soccer.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4w ago
It's so refreshing to see Brits like you and @Durek_The_Bald call soccer by its proper name.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
Nothing wrong with translating a few words for our cousins across the pond.
Durek_The_Bald 4w ago
I always try to adjust my language to avoid misunderstandings when I know there are retarded people around.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4w ago
Hey... wait a second....
YOU'RE retarded!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Let’s consider the whole point of professional sports to begin with: Who cares about the lightweight boxing champion except for more astute boxing fans who find it interesting to see the techniques?
I would like to watch minor league baseball because the MLB team in my city stinks: Their security frisks us worse than the TSA, the concession prices are obscene, and the stadium is located in a war zone. So I’d enjoy watching the game, for the sake of it, with my daughter for Family Entertainment.
However, I expect that people who are into pro sports and spend the big bucks want to see the best possible athletes possible. Quite frankly, IMO, soccer is boring to me, but I suppose it’s popular internationally for the city rivalry thing.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
When even Olympic level women soccer players struggle against run-of-the-mill 14 year old boy soccer players, you know just how inferior women's soccer is, the only way they can attract enough men to watch them is to have very attractive soccer players, otherwise even watching under 15 boy's soccer matches has more appeal.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4w ago
FTFY.
preach 1mo ago
They always gotta find some way to blame men.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Same women that want to bitch and moan about dating at 30+ are oddly silent when it comes time to discuss how poor their decision making was from 18-29.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
We aren't "able to provide or caretake" for women over 30.
We are such miserable failures.
RegisterSignIn 1mo ago
Women complain and whine because they have historically always found men to do things for them, because they couldn't or wouldn't, but these behaviors are always working. If they wouldnt we MIGHT die out.
With science some of this behaviours will have less utility.
We will see some chnages if civilization wont be wiped out during the Earth pole shift thing.
JudgeSmales 1mo ago
I guess we all just need to "man up." I don't know what that means, but women keep saying it, so it must be true.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Those leftovers failed to "woman up" and lock down good men willing to wife them up years earlier.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I love how this woman is ranting about the 'age gap'.
Imagine if men started ranting about the 'income inequality' of modern dating. Or the height inequality. Or the IQ inequality.
But the big one is the fertility inequality. Whenever you see manufactured outrage about an age gap celebrity pairing, and you are discussing it in public, just remind everyone
"Oh I don't know, she's 24 and he's 50, so they're both about equal in terms of fertility".
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I read that women hit peak fertility at 14, on average.
Suddenly, marrying off your daughter at 16 doesn't seem so bad of an idea!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
One argument they attempted to make was that men at age 50 are less fertile than at age 20. “So you see? Tee hee! You men better worry about getting married young too!”
I thought about this and this actually works against aging women and here’s why: As @Seagram7 notes above, normie men are sub-human. Hot/wealthy guys in their 40’s are noticed more than 20something normie men in their fertility peak. The hot 40’s guys who may have fertility issues will only see that exacerbated by trying to mate with older women’s fertility issues.
That’s a FURTHER incentive for the hot, older, less fertile guys to go for the 20’s women even if the 30’s women bring more money to the table and, besides, with hypergamy he doesn’t “need” her money (men can be “strong and independent” too, you know.)
It’s seen an EXPLOSION in the IVF industry as the aging millennial women who finally get married in their 30’s/40’s are having to utilize them and us, as a society ,expected to pay for the burden.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Men at 50 less fertile than at age 20? You seem to think that men over 40 are less fertile than men at 20?
None of that is true. Men basically stay fertile for a long long time.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4w ago
I said LESS fertile. As I said, the feminists chuckled that there were fertility issues for (some) older men, as well as general chromosome issues but at a MUCH lower scale than aging women.
Biologically, it's best for men and women both to have children when we're younger.
I know this, well, because it affected me. I had low fertility to begin with (raised in the coal mining/industrial rust belt of the USA) and my sperm quality plummeted. My wife waited to have children until we were better established, 5 years, but that was enough to make it tougher.
In IVF, all it took was 1 good sperm for me to have this child but getting a good egg from my wife was more of a challenge for obvious reasons.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
sure. A man at 50 is slightly less fertile than a man at 20.
In the same way that a woman at 20 is slightly less fertile than a woman at 14.
Women hit peak fertility at 14. By the tiime they are 20, their fertility has declined somewhat. (Like a man at 50)
By the time a woman is 30, she has lost 90% of her eggs. She is now the fertility equivalent of a man of about 60.
By the time she is 40, she is about the same as a guy of 75.
So how come nobody is talking about the fertility gap?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
I’d add this important qualifier, something many here fail to distinguish in their wording.
If you say something such as “Men don’t want aging, old career women” that won’t have a significant impact on these women’s mindsets because they regard “men” as disposable. They don’t care about the normie men hitting on them. You have to say: “High Status Men don’t want…”
And THAT gets them.
For 40 something top-shelf men or men with their act together, who do care about having kids, AND have choices, any fertility issues he has (even minor) will ONLY make compound older women’s women’s lesser value to such men as him regardless of her career success.
In other words, in that market niche, these men’s fertility issues work against such women.
AbusiveFather1 1mo ago
But is the man going to see any of that money? A man’s income is their income, and a woman’s income is only hers.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4w ago
That's a common complaint across the manosphere, and one of the things I've come to appreciate about my own wife is that she's not like that at all. All money brought in by either of us is our money.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Hence why aging biological clock ticker career women gripe that men don't appreciate her high income.
Well, to a certain degree most men do in that marrying a SAH mom is risky (ask Kevin Costner) in that you get stuck paying alimony. Generally, a woman who earns about 60% to 80% of your income is ideal: She still respects you but you're not on the hook for alimony.
In the old-old days when "memes" were posters we hung on our wall, Murphy's Laws of Dating was popular and one such rule was "Don't sleep with anyone crazier than you are." I'm the crazier one in our relationship so to speak. It's called "dread game" in Marriage Game. If a woman perceives that it's not in her interest to divorce or ruin a marriage, they at least (may) think about it otherwise. I like my wife having her dysfunctional friends as a constant reminder of how good she has it with me.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4w ago
Not quite.
Dread is primarily the fear of loss. If a woman doesn't give 2 flying fucks about losing you, you can't use dread on her.
It's also used to mean when a man stops allowing himself to be taken for granted, which ties back in to the original meaning.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4w ago
As you know, women often have childlike minds and children can be convinced to want something if you merely threaten to take it away, offer it to someone else, or even someone else is interested in him. [edit, doh!]
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
absolute gold
It's called 'loss aversion' it is how women think.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4w ago
Definitely.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
If someone here could find this video, I'd love to bookmark it: The actor Joe Pantoliano, I think (or someone who looks like him) is explaining to the mother of the young girl he's dating why he prefers to date extremely young women:
He says they're simply more "fun".
""Steak, wow yummy! That old movie! Wow! I didn't know about that!" You older women are masters of complaining and bitching, on the other hand!"
The mother then slaps him and he goes down, brushes himself, and calmly gets back up and looks at her and says "Are you done?"
Back in the 1990's, I enjoyed divorced MILFs because they were actually more fun back then when they came from a generation when women still were held to some standards. I found the younger generation of women were increasingly spoiled and entitled (and I suppose it got worse).
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1mo ago
I would argue that for many men, it is not about ability, but willingness. Men your age are not willing to do this because they prefer a woman who does not have another man's kids and less baggage from other relationships. It is indeed "less fun" to date a woman who already has kids, meaning that you not only have less flexibility and freedom to do more things with her. Her kids will need someone to watch them, making dating more logistically difficult and more expensive since she will likely try to guilt you into paying for their babysitting.
I will also speak as a man who was fortunate enough to have found someone to be married to when we were both in our 20s. It meant a lot to me that my wife wanted me when she was younger and without another man's kids. When a woman will only date you after she has had someone else's kids and would never have even considered you before she became a single mom, this is not a compliment to you. It is a compliment when she chooses you when she is capable of having other options. This also applies for women in their 30s and 40s, who also will only accept some men as potential relationships once she has less options.
By the time you as a man are in your 30s and 40s, you have a lot more financial power than you did in your 20s, meaning that you will indeed have more options if you are doing well with your work. But men don't want to just be picked at the finish line when they have already made it by themselves. They would much rather have someone who sees their potential and chooses them before they hit their stride. I don't think it is really that hard for women to discern which men have potential and which don't. I suspect a lot of women would rather waste as much time as they think they can get away with and still get married. The only problem is if they wait too long or make some poor choices that result in them becoming a single mom. Which results in the very post we see here.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I love the way she says men date younger because they are unable to "provide, caretake or be held accountable" -such tradcon ideas in the mouth of a fully liberated cock carousel rider on dating apps.
Firstly, men date younger because they can. Younger women are hot and if men can have them they will. Its as simple as that. Women are free to date whoever they want and if young women want to date older men, older men will say "thank you very much, I will have a large portion of that"
Feminism has freed men from having to provide caretake or be accountable because it freed women from having to be faithful, chaste and submissive in return for the providing, caretaking and accountability the men gave. Women get to run about like spoilt divas with lots of money to spend, zero responsibility and lots of men to court them until suddenly their youth runs out and then they are just spoilt.
Of course men won't take a spoilt used aging woman on and provide and caretake for her. Why should they? As ever, what's in it for the men lady?
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
This story fits here perfectly
The story of Sharon
Sharon was a 35 year old divorced woman. She was 5’6” and average in looks and weight. She didn’t have any extraordinary physical characteristic that would distinguish her from any other female her age. She didn’t have a beautiful face, nor big breasts (maybe an A cup). She didn’t have an hour-glass figure or a Kim Kardashian ass. All in all, she was just average. She didn’t have a college degree and had no income generating skills. She was broke and living at her parent’s home with her 2 children from a failed marriage. One day, she is talking to my wife and says this. She will not date a man below 6’ AND he has to have a good income because he has to support her and her 2 kids. When I heard this, my reaction was, Sharon is either insane or a delusional narcissist. Evidently, she thought that a broke, divorced, 35 year old woman with two kids was what every 6’ plus successful man wanted. She had to have thought that there was a severe shortage of destitute women with children and an oversupply of 6’ plus successful men who wanted a women like her.
And surprisingly she did get what she wanted ----- sort of. She did get married, at the age of 40, to a man barely an inch taller than her. I can’t speak of his income, but he was karate instructor, so I doubt he made a 6 figure income that she demanded 5 years earlier.
It would be interesting to know how many good men she rejected due to their height in her entire life.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
Sharon managed to swallow her pride and settle. She did very well considering the odds against her. Did she make a good and happy wife?
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
I would say they have been together 10 years. That was the last time I saw them at her parents house where I met her husband.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
I don't doubt she was sincere, but note that when women talk to other women, including to your wife, they will tend to sound demanding out of what they want from men to avoid being shamed by other women. If a woman sounds like she has reasonable standards in men, or is even kind of men, she'll be labeled a "pickme" and ignored or bullied. The women doing so will not even be aware of why they're doing it.
JudgeSmales 1mo ago
"Feminism has freed men from having to provide caretake or be accountable because it freed women from having to be faithful, chaste and submissive in return."
Hoo boy, there's a whole shit-ton of truth in that statement. Women's lib became men's lib.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
That part in particular leapt out at me.
Bitch, your purpose in my life isn't to "hold me accountable". I hold myself accountable. Your purpose in my life as a woman is to find ways to make my life easier and/or better.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Lets face it, 10 years ago you would have ignored those same guy you are now complaining about not being interested in you, so basically you should have chosen a good man early on instead of wasting your time with randos.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
"No one talks about how..." BULLSHIT! You women talk about it incessantly.