Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
- 9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
Link Flair:
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Everyone around her is feeding her delusions to a degree that indicates they think she's unstable and will say anything to avoid setting her off.
"the nicest, most responsible men I've met agree"
"married men who apologize to me for men. They say .. you're amazing, it's just men that suck"
"You should have someone better than me"'
People can see she's gonna throw a tantrum and are desperate to coddle and mollify her until they can get to a safe distance...
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
I chose "bitch" for flair although "psycho bitch" and "damaged goods" came to mind. If you think this is a bit long, I edited out about 75% of the total rant while the independent and strong women cheered her on for "telling it like it is". If enough of you request, I could perhaps post multi-parts but this is the gist of it.
NPC070201 9mo ago
Jeez bro, this is only a quarter of it? I could barely make it through all this before I was ready to bang my head on the wall. Appreciate you taking the time for this.
ZZoMBiE13 9mo ago
Jeez, there's MORE? For corn's sake, why say in 10 words what could be bemoaned with a thousand, I guess.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 9mo ago
Norah Vincent put that "nicer" bullshit to rest about 20 years ago when she did her undercover project "Self Made Man".
As far as harder working, that must be why women outnumber men in firefighting, mining, oil rig work, and the skilled trades, hmm? Oh wait, it's the opposite?! And by miles?!
And more responsible? Which sex carries more debt? Which sex saves more vs spending everything they make and then some?
Um, yeah, in the immediate couple of years or so following a divorce, the ex-wife is usually doing quite well: as a parasite living off of court-ordered payments from the ex-husband!
And of course the men are despairing: they're being betrayed by the one person whom they erroneously thought would love them and have their backs stab them in the back and take most of what they've worked hard to obtain.
What most people forget though, is that once your get about 5-10 years past the divorce, the ex-husband (if he didn't cave to the temptation to end it all) us usually doing quite well, whereas the ex-wife is usually alone and broke.
Ugh. I might finish reading the rest of her inane blather some other time.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Because divorce is the final goal why a woman marries, and uses baits and switch on a man to hide that purpose which is why he suffers.
It's like saying (not counting to the legal / vigilante results) a grapist thrives and does much better after the act of grape than the victim.
OPust be a great representative of such "just better person's".
When an incels says that the incels is a much better person than the stacys - and I know many such example incels who are better people than both Chad and Stacy and I am not saying this as my personal support to them , we'd (mostly rightfully) call the incel delusional and entitled and the woman will join in.
When the turnes have however tabled, we see ........ This.
Brunning and Stave indeed
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
That's why I know this wall of text can be a challenge, but it's interesting to see how she got into this mindset. She got married relatively young and had a child, divorced the guy who appeared to be somewhat educated and had a decent job, and she sticks around him and his family because they're useful to help her raise the child. For all her talk about how mediocre men are, she sure likes keeping her ex around. She then tried to hit the dating market after the child got into high school and now it's a bunch of beta males hitting her up and she's both disgusted with them AND takes their praise to rationalize her higher standards. Note how she says some of them say she deserves better than them.
At a certain point, these leftovers become similar to incels in that they realize that they are fighting a war on diminishing returns: They can try to improve, but they are getting older as are the "mediocre" men they want to impress them so instead they'll just declare themselves "fabulous" and stay alone.
Most widows don't remarry even they were good wives. My mother didn't remarry because she's not going to get the same experience that my father provided her back in 1958. I have a neat analogy for this situation:
In Poland, there was this small electronics store my friend visited and there was a 100GB USB drive there the owner had listed for $100. My friend said that there was no way he was going to pay that for it because there were newer ones on the market for half that, but the owner didn't budge because this was old stock and he paid $100 for it so he wouldn't sell it for less than that. It took some Polish businesses a while to understand basic market economics. I saw this at a hotel as well that was only 1/4 occupied but the rooms sold for $100/night, a princely sum in Poland. My friend said the owner would think that lowering prices down to $40 a night for full occupancy would be a loss even if he got more money in.
oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
"Note how she says some of them say she deserves better than them."
I have told people they deserve better than me, and meant it - the unspoken part is "you deserve better than me [because I'm not that into you]."
No-Stress-Cat 9mo ago
This looks like it was written by more than one person, both a mix of soyboy and feminist mishmash. Like they took the good parts from men and changed the genders, then added in a bunch of feminist dribble.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
After I got over my anger phase, I began to see things like this objectively. Here's what's going on:
Women want a man that makes more then them.
Women complain that men make more than them.
Women vote in laws that give them more than men.
So this whole long post is about women rationalizing that they got what they said they want but it's not what they want. Instead of taking accountability for what they've done to men, they blame us for the situation they created. This is why they will die alone and go to the grave rich and miserable.
I decided a long time ago not to give these types of women anything and take from them everything. That's what they deserve. No protection, no special treatment, no smile, no door holding, no money, just nothing. No 3 bedroom house with a white picket fence, adoring husband, 2.5 kids, newer car, etc. I used my agency to give that to a woman that deserves it. And now I'm off the market and never returning. Bye Felicia! I'll think of you every time you buy one of my AI generated romance novels modeled after 50 Shades of Grey. :)
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
A lot more men are coming to that conclusion as well, which is why the dating market in the West is collapsing at a rate that is alarming women who have being complaining that no men approaches them anymore.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Yeah, as an international traveler I got to see women from all over the world. Everywhere there is industrialization, this happens. Korea, Japan, now China, AU, EU, CA, RU, etc. I think the US/UK/AU are the most extreme.
Mixximus_XX 9mo ago
technically they have created the situation ideal from evolutionary point of view. Now they have only few % of mates worth* to mate with.
*if you discard that women will fuck men for 1000 different reasons, hence 'worth' only as wealth marker
for this reason every man should shot the cum in whores whenever opportunity arises and he can't be traced. Each man might be top 5% at some point of their life, but it might not last forever.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
In the past those few top men were more than happy to have loads of wives and concubines, nowadays getting married is a risk even to those top guys, so all women with their feminism managed to do is screw them out of marriage, especially now that times are getting a lot tougher.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Evolution is an emergent phenomena that only works if a deceleration / negative feedback exists.
Nothing a female of any species ever does is actually optimal for anything by itself - but only when there is a negative feedback available in the nature, things tend to fall in place.
Undead Chronic made some videos, where he goes on detail on studies, which shows, for example, bird females choosing for longer and longer tails quickly run into a situation where the bird population starts collapsing and/or other anatomical features of the next generation starts compromised, as the bodies put more and more energy into just the tail.
Therefore, the statement that X is ideal for evolution is about as meaningful as saying that conical steel wheels without pneumatic tires are ideal (for clarification - the later suffers from lying by omission - conical steel wheels without pneumatic tires are optimal on an accompanying steel bounding track, like a railroad. not on every free surface).
I have been working on some python simulations on these things... I will post if I find a proper tribe, where rigorous research is the main topic.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
It's not ideal evolution. These women are not reproducing with ANY men. Perhaps this is the behavioural sink from the rat utopia experiments that collapses the species.
Mixximus_XX 9mo ago
technicallytheoretically
BTW, knowing rat/mouse utopia experiment and observing today's society is like knowing one's own date and circumstances of death, and just getting closer to it.
Weird.
But I guess one can get used to it.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I think red pill will save the species. Zoomers are growing up with this knowledge now. Soy boys and hyper-hypergamous women will delete themselves from the gene pool. DEI companies will go out of business. AI will replace all the diversity hires and worthless degree people.
Meanwhile guys like us will have wives and kids and raise them to be successful while single moms raise failures.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
That would be true if all other things are held equal, and a free market of competition was allowed. Same with any company that chooses to focus on ESG instead of profits. Or any other kind of social justice issue.
BUT the regulatory framework is all about NOT allowing a free market. The UN, world bank, IMF, G7, GFANZ etc that go to make up the global regulatory framework is explicity about enforcing a compulsory framework of DEI, ESG etc.
None of this was supposed to be a choice - its a compulsory. Gender pay gap reporting in UK is required by law - its not a choice.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Yeah but they will become so inefficient they won't be able to compete with other companies elsewhere.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I don't think you are understanding - I said 'the global regulatory framework'. The UN, Davos, World Bank, GFANZ, IMF, G7, BIS etc etc act as a single force. Those that do not cooperate end up being sanctioned, cut off and out of the world market.
The idea of a free market of ideas is a myth.
The thing that is so revealing about DEI and ESG is that none of it is voluntary. No more so than the lockdowns.
If DEI and ESG were voluntary, we wouldn't be talking about it now.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
That was a closed experiment.
Our western society is open, much like ancient Rome to the barbarians. I'm reminded of a scene on a nature documentary where two cheetah males were fighting for mating privileges with the female and while they were having at it, a lion attacked the female cheetah and killed her and the guys were still going at it. How often is that scene played out in human society? :-)
The Patriarchy was the best thing to happen to all concerned: The women got looked after and men could expend their energies on actual production.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
It may have been a closed experiment but we can look at industrialization as creating a utopia for women. So now we see the behavioural sink that affected the rats. The women have forgotten how to mate and raise offspring. Obviously the fact that our society is not closed off gives rise to things like MGTOW, passport bros, red pill, and now "soft guy era". Drizzle drizzle. It's like 2 different societies living in parallel. It would be interesting to do the rat utopia experiment again but have some of the rats experience hardship.
Mixximus_XX 9mo ago
I am not entirely sure what do you mean by that so I extrapolate on my own.
Do we continue to feel resentment toward friend after finding out he fucked her, but she died in accident/cancer/divorced.
Would 2 men fight for alpha male status even if she already went home and rejected both and bar is empty? I have seen it.
What do you mean by that. It was long time ago since I studied that, but it was 'open world' in rodents terms, compressed size but open. Purpose of reducing the size of the rodent world was to accelerate overcrowding.
I agree that there are significant differences: homo sapiens is more sophisticated on average, real open world combined with sophistication leads to plenty of differences and i.e. communication issues...
I'm not even saying that it will ever relate to people populating the Earth. Yet it is hard to ignore that certain markers are very similar, and there is quite a few of them.
Combining it with human proclivity to hope* for the best and ignore the facts, it feels weird to ignore this facts.
*part of the TRP is about explaining guys not to ignore "in the face" facts: divorce rate, talking vs fucking, the wall awakening, SMV...
I think the decisive factor in keeping people alive is fact that at least small % of folks will always have to work [and remain intelligent-different] and use brains, while rodents didn't need to do anything, as everything was provided except sex.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Rat utopia was a closed experiment. It means there were no random variables like predators, storms, etc. So he gives an example where a lion randomly shows up during a cheetah fight. That illustrates how a dog-eat-dog world has poor outcomes for females. He then concludes that patriarchy had the best outcomes for both males and females.
Maturin_nj 9mo ago
Not really. Have you read the manipulated male by ester vilar. A very good argument was made that men were voluntarily enslaved and knew no other way of living. What's she's saying is that even during the so called patriarcy, which imo never existed during the 20thcentury, is that women had the upper hand. Einstein agreed with this assessment in the 1920s and was appaled by the men in america.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Think again. Vilar was a female supremacist. You need to read her 2nd book "The Polygamous Sex". She basically just shits on men and housewives. The only reason feminists hate her is because she diverges from the "all women are victims of the patriarchy" paradigm. But she correctly points out how women have used male altruism to manipulate us.
Maturin_nj 9mo ago
I see your point. I like her 2nd book and think her arguments are reasonable. It focuses on the how and why women can train men.
It's the 3rd book where she lets loose calling women pimps who pimp men out to work for them. And men happily oblige.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Where's her 3rd book? I looked everywhere and only found a german version...
Maturin_nj 9mo ago
Das ende Der dressuur. It hasn't been translated into English. Maybe it was too much for our social planners.
This one is about how to correct the imbalance of trained men.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Thank God(men actually) for machine translation. I just read it. She does point out the contradictions women face manipulating men while claiming to believe in equality. Her solution of a 5hr work day will never fly so it's kind of pointless. I'll be making a whole post now that I've read that.
Maturin_nj 9mo ago
That should be interesting.
The blows keep coming. She says - men lie to themselves. They pretend to be independent but in reality are compliment and know no other way. Women select the most useful over the erotic. Men see this and mold their behavior. Men compete to see who can serve and provide the most. The prisoner worships his jailer as superior. And is fulfilling his life as trained without reflecting upon his condition.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
She's not wrong... I have friends exactly like she describes.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Yes both of these I recall
My hypothesis is that the "American patriarchy" got leaked worldwide and lead to a collapse. I posted elsewhere the story of Lady Duff Gordon to indicate that the patriarchy in England was slightly different.
But these are all hypothesis and I have no proof either way
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Traditional Patriarchy 1.0: Ruling Patriarchs Men Women Children
American Patriarchy 2.0 Ruling Patriarchs Big Feminism™ Women Men *Children
It can be argued that the reason Big Feminism™ still exists despite it breaking society is because from the Powers That Be's POV, Big Feminism™ is working just like they planned.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 9mo ago
So it's excessively greasy and gag-inducing when men say it, not so when she proclaims it to be true and the center of her identity.
Maturin_nj 9mo ago
The "unctuous better half" phrase is the residue from our predecessors BP conditioning. She takes the phrase literally. Actually I couldn't agree with her more. It's sickening.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Her only thing to worry about is that she might be too awesome, in which case men will be intimidated.
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