@houseoftolstoy explains why men suggest coffee or a walk when women demand expensive dates.

Okay time for another episode of As a black guy™

As a black guy, this shit is endemic within our community.

First, she's obese. This is an immediate disqualification but sadly most black women have this body type and they're proud of it. They won't ever make the link between their bodies and their inability to get anything outside of the men at the bottom of the dating pool. They complain about "dusties" and things "screaming broke", but don't think twice about the relationship between their weight and a man's willingness to open his wallet.

Black men at the top don't date fat women because we don't have to.

Second, "dating with a purpose" is a vacuous statement. It doesn't mean anything concrete outside of letting us know that in her past she was just about having a good time. Now that the party is over, she's trying to find a man to help her clean up the mess that she's made out of her life. Having a child is a big red flag when you pair it with this statement - it means that child didn't come from a marriage, but rather a irresponsible hookup with, in all likelihood, a bottom barrel man.

Black men at the top don't care to be your fallback plan and help you raise pookie's baby because we don't have to.

Third, she's broke. She isn't broke in the economic sense, but in the ways that women should have value to men. It would not be worth commenting on, but she has the fucking chutzpah to demand men provide resources to her on her terms. If she is demanding men "not be broke" then we get to demand the things from her that we value and - on that front - this woman is grossly insufficient.

Black men at the top want value for their extremely rare commitment because - like it or not - we're the prize.

Finally, don't date these single broads who love Beyonce because their fandom tells you everything you need to know about them - they're fucking sheep who are eating up lies about the single lady life from a woman who is absolutely working her ass off to maintain her marriage.

Not looking for just a free meal, it must be lavish dining experience. She's a chef, who won't cook. She has her own everything, so now she wants your own everything. Apply now, with a large fee, to be absorbed. Ante up, all money down and with constant high interest rates charged to you. She'll suck you dry, but not in any good way. She has a plan, less endearing than one from an ancient eldritch horror.

no park walks

I think it's pretty obvious you don't appreciate walking anywhere at all, honey.

The delusion is real. Her demands don't match her market value. A guy with a job who wants a family has no reason to extend hers when he can find someone healthy and childless to "wife up". Ironically, coffee and a walk in the park is exactly what she needs.

NO 2 for $20 spots

Incidents of women getting repulsed (or "catching the ick" as you YOLO-swag youngsters say) by men using coupons remind me of this webcomic I saw that was spoofing on D&D.

A wizard's apprentice was pleased with himself, telling his master "look! I haggled the shopkeeper down from 500gp to 470gp!"

The wizard replied "great work, but the spell specifically calls for 500gp worth of diamond dust. Go back and buy 30gp more."

These entitled women are like that, only less humorous. The quality of the experience, the enjoyment of the time together, etc don't matter as much as the amount of money spent.

Someone should test (for Science!) if these women would be thrilled at receiving a pile of dog shit, as long as you spent a bunch of money on it.

it screams broke!

Your profile screams "entitlement".

and I have my own everything!

... even her own gravity field.

Hurr durr. I'll see myself out.

I just pray that her child isn’t a son. If it is, he’ll be manipulated into becoming a son husband soon. Since no man will willingly deal with this chick on her terms, she will have to emotionally abuse the kid.

Claims she isn't looking for a free meal. Refuses dates that aren't expensive meals.

Technically correct?

Edit: on a more serious note, she's just shooting herself in the foot, a man that can meet the demands she is making can also meet the demands of a woman that is younger, slimmer, and childless.

Says she’s not looking for a free meal.

Invite her to the nicest restaurant in town. Tell her “Separate checks”

How do you think that will go over? Women have such unrealistic ideas about their SMV/MMV.

She has "her own everything" and "doesn't want a free meal" but at the same time she won't do near-costless dates to solely vibe-check with someone??

Color me blind but something isn't adding up here. It's almost like she's uptalking her own supposed humility and non-neediness for a bailout/wealthy man, but then blaming society for needing an alpha bux as a means of covering her actual mentality and intentions

Rule of thumb: don't spend more than her BMI on a first date - and if that would put a dent in your wallet, you shouldn't be dating her either way.

This must be New Jersey. They've had a bout of whales wash up on the beach lately.

Not sure what is wrong with 2 for US$20 spots man... in there city where I live, there are several budget spots that serve better food than at pricey restaurants. I have been to plenty of dates with young attractive women in budget spots.

I noticed that many older women with 'experience' have either similar or higher expectations than young attractive college girls or even women in their early 20's. Tbh, if a college girl can get over her initial hesitation of dating someone a decade older, it is actually easier for me to date her than an older 'experienced' woman. Curious if anyone has experienced something similar?

No meal with her would be inexpensive, even if it was just McDonald’s!