Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 10mo ago Stickied
@Seagram7 (and everyone else):
This is a good weekend post, but for future reference, please censor the subreddit of origin.
Excerpt from rule 7:
This would have been a good one to share to the WAATGM subreddit for more visibility, but we really have to be strict about preventing even the possibility of looking like we condone any kind of brigading on that platform.
Since it's only posted here, and we don't have to be as strict, I'll leave it up.
CC: @moorekom, @Kevin32, @lurkerhasarisen, @woodsmoke, @DeeplyDisturbed, @houseoftolstoy, @ogrilla99 (I think that's everyone I've seen active recently)
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I have stopped posting on reddit ever since they locked my account for suspicious activity and wanted to send me a reset password. The problem with that is I used a 10 minute email so I have no idea how to change that email. Basically, if you want to edit my post and post it there go for it. The info and comments generated is more important that fictional karma updoots for me.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 9mo ago
@seagram7,
If you want your post shared in reddit, please tag me or @Kevin32 and we'll share it there.
Coming to this post, while this would have been allowed in the past to be crossposted to reddit, we should not share it now since reddit is increasingly becoming selectively hostile: look at the recent API debacle and how they are antagonizing mods. It strikes a bell with me on how similar it is to the brigading issues (brigading, getting WATGMA banned) we faced and the reddit community's reaction to moving off of reddit. In the long run, our aim is to move people here. As @typo-magashiv has explained, some exclusive content here will help with that. Reddit is just going to be a traffic aggregator.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 9mo ago
Similar happened to @goodmansaysfuckyou.
I won't be able to; I'm permanently suspended from that triggered tranny shithole for calling a fat person fat.
Maybe @moorekom or @Kevin32 would be interested?
The crossposts to reddit are more about spreading the word and helping more men unplug.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 9mo ago
I'll get to it in the morning.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Higher efforts are for HIGHER CLASS women! Her "liberated", casual sex ass isn't worth effort from men and that's why they treat her the way they do.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 10mo ago
I also think this is another indicator of the detrimental effect of OLD. Basically, because OLD allows you to cast a much wider net than in real life, you have the ability to shoot for a low-probability event.
That is, if you only meet 10 men in your life, you must do something that gives you at least a 10% chance of landing one, or you'll be single. OTOH, if you can literally screen thousands of men every night from your phone, then you can behave in a way that only gives you a 0.1% chance of success, and still be successful every night.
That's why women, on OLD, shoot for much higher SMV men (aka Chads) than they would in real life: because of the thousand Chads she sends a wink to, at least one of them will be horny that night with no better options. If she did the same thing at a bar with only dozens of men, she'd most likely go home alone.
Up to now, women think this is great: they get the chance to fuck Chads they'd never meet before, and can therefore raise their standards while still maintaining a good success rate. Their problem is, they never realize it also works for men. If a man can only shoot his shot with 5 women in real life, he's going to put in a bunch of time/effort to wooing them and maximizing the chance with all of them, because he knows otherwise the chances of him being alone are very high. But once you give a guy the same ability to cast a wide net, he also knows that, given enough women "liking" him on OLD, at least one will be DTF with basically no effort. So why do more than that?
Before OLD, even if you were a good-looking, desirable guy, it was unheard of to have dates with more than a couple women in a week. And that's if you spent a ton of time in bars, or flirting with women basically wherever you want. Now, the same desirable guy can easily set up a couple of dates per night all from the comfort of his phone, if he wants. That makes it much easier to still have a high close rate while minimizing effort put in.
In this case, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Beanie had another date lined up that night. An early date with a slightly hotter woman, and a later date with more of a sure thing (either someone new that's lower on the SMV scale, or maybe a plate or fwb). If the hotter one seems up for sex, you can always reschedule the sure thing. Either way, no effort needed to get laid that night...
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
Something she doesn't consider is that tracksuit-beanie could have been tall or otherwise good looking. She probably did NOT pick a guy who "looked" "low effort".
In other words, she got the experience that the average schmuck does who took out a woman on a dinner date, wined and dined her, and she just sat there waiting to be entertained and demanding he go through dog-and-pony shows. It stinks, doesn't it? Welcome to the world of men!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 10mo ago
Now complain to us about the men who "tried too hard" and "couldn't take the hint".
Go on, I know you've got a million stories like that!
Justanaverageguy 10mo ago
I’ve taken the hint many times, only for the girl to come back later on asking questions lol
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 10mo ago
Quick question: did you pay for your share of the bill? Or was it the price he had to pay for your company? Also:
Yeah, I'm sure everyone around you can tell that. Maybe that's why he didn't put much of an effort.
Justanaverageguy 10mo ago
A whore wants to be treated like a queen. News at 11.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Her whining made me smile.
It means that men are standing up against this perpetual "DO MOAR" attitude these bitches have, with high body counts. It isn't just the economy, men tend to fare better than women in any part of the economic cycle because they don't spend money on useless bullshit all the time like women do.
Quite simply, her ran-through pussy isn't worth it.
She'll blame "low effort" men, blame the economy, the job market, the color of her neighbor's house -- everything but looking in the mirror at her own failings.
This bint getting whacked by reality is just glorious. More, please. (As a general request to submitters.)
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
She brings up some good points for discussion:
Another Saturday, another date.
She would be ready but she's always make him wait.
In the hallway, in anticipation,
He didn't know the night would end up in frustration.
He'd end up blowing all his wages for the week
All for a cuddle and a peck on the cheek.
nicknack 10mo ago
I've been the guy who controls his feral urges and doesn't focus on it when courting a woman. One particular example was a coworker at a huge store I worked at back in the day and I would hangout with her, take her out, and not push too hard. Some other feral dude just pushed his way in and got the goods, her words "she doesn't know how, it just happened, he wouldn't take no for an answer", so I just said go ahead and date him I'm not interested anymore. They dated for a few months, and I learned that you can't be too lax with this stuff. You have to close.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 10mo ago
That's why I had a 3 date rule. If we don't have sex -- or at the very least consistent escalation to something close to sex -- within 3 dates, I'm moving on. I might still keep in touch and stay friendly just to see if she changes her mind at some point, but no more dates, no more effort to meet up, nothing.
It's not that I'm a sex crazed animal, but in my blue pilled days, I had too many women take advantage of my slow, "respectful" approach and I would waste a lot of time, effort, and money only for a woman to eventually tell me she just wanted to be friends. I'm not talking being a nice guy, becoming a nonsexual friend first, etc. I'm talking taking a woman out for dinner, or a play, or some sort of evening that made it clear I was interested in her romantically. And after several "great dates", I'd learn she's not interested and/or she's been fucking some other dude on the side, who was making none of the effort I was making.
It's also after becoming more successful with red pill thinking, that I realized that women decide if you're fuckable usually before even the first date. And if you're in that category, (especially in modern times) they will escalate and fuck you within 1-2 dates with basically no effort from you. If a non-virgin doesn't fuck you in 3 dates, she never will. Or at least, the chances are so low after that that it's better to move on to someone else.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Man, same. You respect the boundaries and eventually you give her the ick. I’m not saying force yourself on women, that’s horrible. But the guy who doesn’t walk on eggshells around the topic of sex is the one who ends up with the woman. Because that’s what they emotionally react to: the powerful man who gets his way.
nicknack 10mo ago
We also respect men who close the deal and fuck cute girls. We don’t really respect the dude who hangs out with and talks to them.
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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 10mo ago
At least Ralphie got touched by something.
Sure, it was a copper ball bearing to the face at 100 m/s, but it was something.
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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 10mo ago
Lucky bastard.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
I've told this story before, but it does remind me of when I was chatting with a dude at the bar about general life stuff, and I said "Men are the romantics, not women."
Some bitch at the end of the bar waiting for whatever drink just interjected (and she wasn't that close to us either, rude bint) and said "Bullshit."
We ignored her, but she was plainly irritated about it, lol. But on to your point - yes, a man will move mountains for the right girl. And the process of getting red-pilled by a chick that takes a good dude for granted is completely spot-on.
Its eye-opening, and it changes everything. Just funny, if these chicks could just be demure and fucking nice to men for once, they'd have everything they want. But no...
Justanaverageguy 10mo ago
You have to be worth putting in effort for, first. Also alot of guys have busted their ass for women and gotten absolutely nowhere or been taken advantage of with their kindness only to have her run off with Chad and then got told “you aren’t entitled to a relationship or sex just because you were nice!” Ok. Well this is what you get, a guy in a truck suit and a beanie.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Women worth the effort get the effort.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 10mo ago
The juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
Response- Because they keep encountering the type of woman that inspired this copypasta:
"Women my age are definitely SO fucking mature. I don't understand how this generation of women who walk around in their fucking pajamas and underwear and driving their parent's minivan to grown-up daycare so they can get drunk and high and just drip cum from every orifice all fucking day until they have a degree cant find husbands. It just fucking baffles me how this generation of alcoholic cumdumpsters fingering themselves and vaping in bed to vampires and dragons in a shitty one-bedroom apartment with their sweaty fucking bras and yoga pants scattered all over the place smelling like cat piss with some stupid fucking mandala tapestry can't find mature, functional men to marry. This generation of wine-drunk, sweatpants-and-tee shirt-wearing, scrambled-eggs-burning, hot fries- eating, cheeto-dusted, yerba mate drinking self- sterilizing hormonal research chemical experiments gone horribly fucking wrong needs me to man up."
TLDR; men will only strive to achieve a semblance of quality if there is a reliable and worthwhile payout for doing so. If they can get what they want without that, then they oddly enough won't. Ladies, maybe think about that next time you spread your legs for an underemployed guy with neck tats that you've known for all of 45 minutes...and then wonder why the dude with a good job and his own vehicle and place to live isn't interested in putting on a full peacock display for your used up ass.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 10mo ago
You forgot hot chips and lying.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Let me translate
"I'm a hoe and I let everyone know that I'm a hoe. A hoe is someone that lets guys smash with no effort. Why then are guys not making an effort when we meet?"
It's a bit like a shop which has jeans for sale at $50 complaining that nobody ever offers $250 for the jeans.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Women are masters of fooling others with their appearance. They spend most of their money and a ton of time deceptively planning how to fake youth and beauty in order to stay on the totem pole. Those at the top get the most attention, validation, and admiration from both men and women.
Like chickens, women are keenly aware of their place in the pecking order, and are always plotting to increase their standing. Like being rich, the higher the position, the more effort goes into maintaining your position and shutting down competition. It's exhausting.
I imagine it must be really frustrating to spend all that time/effort trying to subdue your fellow chickens, only to have an attractive rooster strut by in a track suit and beanie. "We have to spend ALL THIS TIME getting ready and making ourselves attractive, and all you have to do is show up!"
Yeah, when your only way to attract a man is your youth and "beauty", and you lose both, you are worthless.
Women like this hate my wife, who in her mid 40s not only looks way better than most of them, but has opted out of the pecking order rat race. She cares more about what her Rooster thinks. She gets one cock(erel), and she's chosen to be happy with that for life. Instead of thinking "how do I get men to dance and sing for me" she thinks "how can I please my husband today?" And she's far happier than women complaining on Reddit.
RedPill115 10mo ago
I really wonder if guys find that feminism encourages women to group bond over attacking men, so he makes himself as uninviting of a target to attack as possible.
What used to be "I went out with this hot guy maybe he'll marry me".
Has turned into "I went out with this hot guy he tried to rape me".
To be clear I'm talking about when he didn't actually do anything of the sort but she wants to grandstand about how she's so picky these hot guys are trying to get with her and she's fighting them off.
Hard to tell a story about how she's a "hero" for running away when he moved in to kiss her - in a way that makes her look good - when he story starts out with "he was wearing sweatpants and a beanie".
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Well, when 90% of women are chasing 2.5% of men, this tends to happen. Blame your selves. These are the men you choose.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 10mo ago
Yup. The fact she agreed to go out with him in the first place suggests he's likely on the top end of men in their area, meaning he probably has a surfeit of female attention in the first place. That being the case, why would he bother to dress up and put effort into courting her when he can just move on to the next available hole and later have this one back for the price of a bag of skittles?
nicknack 10mo ago
This is literally the choice of men she's picking and nothing else. Listen, I'm 30. I've gone out with 19 year old girls with model thin bodies and beautiful faces. I'm not a millionaire. We both know she is "out of my league" per say, and they always show up in sweats and greasy hair looking like they didn't give a fuck. Because why should they? The same is true in reverse and even more so.
I've gone out with girls who are obviously below my league, the 26-29 year olds without a model body and face. I show up in a t-shirt and my old shoes, no haircut or nothing. Because I don't give a fuck. For these really young hot girls though, I literally go buy new clothes and get a haircut same day, put my newest shoes on and even clean them. Wash my car, and choose the best spot. Make sure I get a good nights sleep before.
The guys she's going out with are way out of her league, almost certainly meeting them online where women ONLY go for guys 3-4 points higher SMV than them. I don't use online dating for this reason, because I cant even be arsed to put my newer shoes on when I met up with girls from OLD. She expects Chad to show up in his newest Armani suit for her ugly ass he's just trying to pump like a whore.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
The bottom/first comments are often the best. This doesn't disappoint. Keep in mind, though, that women aren't rational and a hot model girl who shows up on a date in sweats and a T-shirt may be better gamed if he matches her style rather than sticks out as, (ick!), "desperate".
For men, appearing desperate is pure poison in the modern girls looking for hyper masculinity so ironically showing up a jeans and a beanie may help send a message of strength better than dressing up. The key is that most women require something minimal from most men whether it's him at least getting a shower and cleaning up, or perhaps paying for a few dinners but going overboard is just as bad.
I remember one dating show where a guy went all out and paid for a private helicopter ride, a dinner at a top restaurant, and a violinist and they asked her how the date went and she said "ok" and when he asked her out again she said "Sure, I'll go out with him again" with the same enthusiasm of someone asking me if I want to go to the mall.
I'm reminded of a great line in poker where a poker player/commentator said that going "all in" was an awful strategy because the best bet, is the right one. No more, or less, than what it takes to get a job done.
nicknack 10mo ago
When I say I get new clothes, Im specifically referring to new casualesque clothes. My nice expensive clothes last a while, but I don’t wear them on dates because it’s signalling that Im trying too hard. I buy new casual clothes because they don’t last, so they need to basically be new to look good.
Girls have been out with chads before, and betas. They know the betas show up in armani suits and helicopter rides. They know that Chad shows up in slippers to meet them at the local coffeee shop and go 50/50. We don’t put in effort for women we see below us.
If every chad has shown up in sweats and every billy in Armani, what does it signal if you show up in Armani.