Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago Stickied
The implication that an older woman serves more value is laughable.
Like is that a woman who married you in her twenties, gave you copious amounts of enthusiastic sex, multiple children, supported you in your hard time and cheered you in your good times, and has walked the path of life with you? Yeah. That’s a wife. That’s a lot of value to us.
Is she some random 40-something year old woman expecting to get everything we have to offer for limited, less fun sex, no kids, and an aloof attitude towards our struggles? That’s a random 40-something year old woman. That’s not valuable.
When a woman has all of the options and chooses to be with us, that makes us feel great. When a woman is taking whatever she can get, she feels to us what the nice guy feels like to women: at best a desperate mark that we can leverage for our benefit, at worst an unattractive bore.
I don’t care what some 40 year old spinster thinks about men’s dating preferences. And men at Leo’s age who can date women young enough to be his daughter probably care even less.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago Stickied
Promoting you to Senior Hamster Analyst.
If you're still active at that shithole other site, one of the other mods will have to take care of it there.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Tag @moorekom
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Done. Time for a customized flair.
RedPill115 1y ago
This is spot on.
On the other hand what does a woman with a lifelong pattern of relationship failure have in that regard? Nothing.
I mean maybe she can keep a "sleeping around in a large group" arrangement going as she gets older, dunno, but what is valuable about her is the skils she's spent most of her life practicing.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
"an aloof attitude towards our struggles?"
One of the most hilarious statements made by such women is "I have my OWN money and don't NEED yours!" and yet they'll gripe that "old fashioned" dating isn't happening anymore where the man pays for the meal and shows off his provider credentials to please her.
It's often said that men "only" want respect but it's more accurate that men would be happy with women who weren't so needy, but at least were grateful and respectful. The definition of entitled is someone whose both needy and ungrateful. An entitled person considers you in their debt and therefore you get nothing out of the relationship aside from meeting that persons demands. It's the equivalent to paying off a car loan that someone else drives.
She has a point in that when I was younger, I found older women to be a great way to get sexual experience. They were good in bed (at least 25 years ago), more feminine (women have become less feminine as time has gone by), and I liked to watch "old movies" so we had a lot in common. This is the paradox that even as older women have less biologically to offer, the quality of women has degraded significantly for generations. On the other hand, once I gained sexual experience I didn't need their nonsense anymore (these women were single for a reason, after all) and I moved on to better quality younger women.
And that's the difference between how men and women age: our notch counts are assets with the opposite sex, our experiences tend to impart the correct lessons on us (mostly) while women generally tend to rationalize their self-entitled narratives, and our wall is much later. When the older women gave me hassles, we parted ways (largely amicably). Heck, it's funny that my oldest girlfriend said of me in my early 30's "My mother is suspicious of a single man in his 30's because there must be something wrong with him" since a quality man would presumably have at least one divorce under his belt. For us men, on the other hand, a divorced woman is a red flag.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yup. I would never be a new marriage for a woman.
If I’m older, find myself single, and meet a woman who is nice but has a divorce on the resume? Okay, fine. I’ll date her. I’ll even bring her to outings, go on vacations, and let everyone know she’s my girlfriend. But I’m not going to marry her. I want to reserve the right to walk out if the problems that led her to be divorced resurface.
itsandrewbuck 1y ago
You know what really isn't sexy? Whiny post-wall women complaining about guys who are no longer attainable for them.
The same women complaining about these guys are the ones who require that they fit into this list of their 'criteria', which prove how deluded they are. "I want a guy over 6', no kids, makes over $150K, owns his home, has all his hair, and who understands that my career, kids, cat all come before he does." Damn, where do I sign-up for that sort of abuse? Most guys who meet those criteria wouldn't be bothered, much less give even a first look at these entitlement princesses.
"Why do you have 5 sports cars?" Because I can, so why do you have 900 pairs of shoes, Imelda? They lack the overall self-awareness to understand their own inherent flaws, yet the guy is the real problem. Blame the patriarchy for (her) lack of introspection and unattainable goals, while the same male specimen likely has so much female attention that he's not even listening, let alone hearing, the shrill, whiny feminist rhetoric because he's too busy shagging another 20-something who's laughing at his jokes.
DextroShade 1y ago
Old feminist hags have been bitching about Leo for years, and guess what? He doesn't give a fuck, and neither does any other guy who can pull younger pussy. Men cannot be shamed into changing their preferences, and these women only show themselves to be pathetic, bitter hags when they attempt to do so.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Some hag complaining that HVM are choosing more attractive women is no different than some neckbeard complaining that the Stacys are ignoring him into be with the Chads.
(I don't really talk like that... I'm just trying to illustrate the absurdity of bitter inspins when they whine about the fact that men who are out of their league don't acknowledge how awesome they are.)
Whenever people make broad statements like that it's almost always useful to reverse the sexes / races / situations and ask if it would be valid to say it. Since an old hag complaining that she can't get commitment from a HVM is the female version of a fat nerd complaining that he can't have sex with attractive women, why is one derided as a loser and put on a watch list while the other gets published?
The advice is the same to both groups: Nobody owes you the relationship you want. Don't complain that people who are out of your league choose more desirable people... become more desirable yourself.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
As always, to check for lunacy, simply invert the genders to check if what is being said counts as blatant sexism: If this were a man telling older women that its weird and creepy if they date young men. How would that go down? Would a the mainstream newspaper feel free to print this sort of sexism? The fact that The Times feel free to print this is worrying. They have a team of lawyers who watch for any potential liability. They scan articles for anything that might be racist or sexist. Unless its sexism directed at men -that's all ok.
Just think how far we have fallen into a blatantly sexist Femocracy. The Times is one of the oldest media outlets in the world. It's basically conservative. This is what is coming out of the mouths of the 'right wing' in the UK. We have to endure daily man shaming and misandry.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1y ago
Actually, the opposite headline would be "Women, get therapy, not a rich boyfriend. A big income gap is not sexy, Caitlin, you won't understand the subtle class markers at his dinner parties"
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Gosh, that is comment of the week. I wish I could upvote x20. Can you just imagine if men started to shame women for the 'earnings gap'? Hat tip for such a great insight.
Doricel 1y ago
Every time I think we got over it and then the loser spinsters whine again.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
"Ya gotta help me, Doc! Every time I see an attractive, young woman I want to fuck her! I've been this way since I was a teen! I don't find old, droopy, dried-out, post-menopausal women appealing at all, as I should! What is wrong with me!!!"
I don’t know how long it’s going to take these women to realizing that “finding yourself” in your 20’s is not a luxury females have. Also, waiting around for someone in the top 1% is like expecting to build a fortune by winning the lottery. You’re more likely to end up broke then rich. Apex men want hot young women. Apex women want rich successful men.
Get over it Karen. Sorry, Caitlin
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago
"The patriarchy has clearly brainwashed you into not lusting after dried-up old hags, as a truly healthy and enlightened man ought to do. Here, let me prescribe these essays by Erica Jong to purge you of your Masculine Toxicity..."
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Caitlin, she won't have time for jokes when her mouth is closed on my dick.
Yet another woman who doesn't understand men and has to acquire prospects through shame instead of quality
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
Haha nice
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Nothing makes me want to choose an aging hag over a young, hot woman than being shamed into putting my meat in her dust caverns
RedPirate751 1y ago
What did Cinderella say when she got to the ball?
choking sounds
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I think a lot of these women do understand men, they are just coping and seething that they are losing what leverage and ability to influence male decision making that they had, and do not want to admit that they willingly and stupidly wasted their youth.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Women can understand sexual attention from men, sure, because that's directly tied to how they interact with men. But women don't understand men outside of that because it isn't a requirement to get things from men.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
I agree wholeheartedly.
Nothing worse for them then believing feminist bullshit their whole life only to realize "muh patriarchy" had a point the whole time about the marriage thing"
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah it's a total cope. If you watch the manosphere closely you can see all these women reverse course and suddenly become wives. The life of a stay at home wife is the ultimate luxury. Esther Vilar identified this back in the 70s. It's not until these women work at jobs and see how hard it is that they decide to opt out for the easy life.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago
So, who should rich, handsome and successful men date? You? Yeah, I'd rather watch a TikTok dance from time to time instead.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Just marry the poor, devout, chicks from third world countries. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Deaz Hoez will see a trad/con chick from abroad in the house with the white picket fence and 3 kids and be like "damn".
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Like that "Roti Queen from Bangkok" that I see all around youtube. Demure, works hard, looks good in a two-piece bikini.
Not saying she's perfect, but its miles from what is on offer in the USA.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah and she's like a 4 in Bangkok. Imagine a 5.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1y ago
First of, being able to get any jokes that require timely references or any references to anything pop culture or otherwise is so unimportant to any relationship that it is not only not worth caring about, but even thinking that it has any importance shows that the author lacks understanding of what a relationship requires.
And also, men wanting young women is nothing new. It just became a topic of contention when women are able to offer nothing but their looks. And once they lose that competitive edge through younger women coming in, they resort to shame rather than wonder where they went wrong.
SSeuSS 1y ago
and improving themselves to be at least eligible to man that still would want them
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I read from a female poster that ventured onto the old MGTOW sub is that one of the reasons why feminism exists is because of equality, as she should have an equal playing field and not be judged on her looks and age. I translated that in my mind as she should have the same shot of landing a Chad as someone way younger and prettier than her. Unfortunately for her, biology doesn't work that way. Youth and looks are tied into fertility, hence sexual attraction. Like we all keep saying, we dont care that you spent your 20's climbing to the top in education and business or that you has amazing experiences which you think puts you in the same league as a hot 20 something girl. Shaming doesnt work either.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1y ago
I would have replied, "if you don't want to be judged on your looks and age, then why do you judge men on their height and bank account?" They don't want to be judged while they're pursuing the most traditional judgments in men!
There are tons of men who won't judge her on her looks or age. Lots of lonely incels who would love nothing more than the touch of a woman, any woman. They'd happily give her a shot. But she judges them on their looks, height, career, money, personality, etc. etc. and wants nothing to do with them.
I'm sure she doesn't see the hypocrisy (very few women do) of her stance "How can I keep judging men, while keeping men from judging me?!" or even more bluntly "How can I get the man I want, even I'm not the woman he wants? Why can't my desire override his choice?"
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Like a poster here had mentioned to me, absolutely none of the tawdry bodice rippers marketed exclusively to women contain the line: "And then he penetrated her degree".
And guess what, neither does men's porn either!
Becky needs to understand that her MBA does not make her more fuckable, nor does it make her a better candidate for bearing and raising children.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Thanks for the requote, brother.
And its so damned true. Men want to conquer women, and good women know that is the order of things. I'm tired of the combative "boss bitch" that is all over social media.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1y ago
And often, it also makes them less desirable, as it often comes at the expense of feminine qualities that men want in a woman. Men do not want a woman who is out there trying to compete like a man, but rather they want a complement.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Feminism told women to compete against men (after securing favoritism in education and hiring) in order to provide for themselves. Tax dollars ensure that they are protected by white knights in blue uniforms (that they're not expected to sleep with). The result is that until this inherently-unstable system collapses women say, "We became the men we were going to marry." But that betrays a fundamental lack of understanding of what men bring to the table, and reduces us to being support systems who supply provision and protection for women. (And they complain that WE objectify THEM...)
But "boss babes" and "tough chicks" don't make good men. The bossiest boss babe and the toughest tough chick is still - at best - a poor substitute for even an average man. I'm reminded of an episode from the TV show, "Mom," wherein one of the women (Jill) wanted to get in vitro fertilization so she could have a baby. Jill was filthy rich as the result of her family and her divorce from a good man, yet was still a total train wreck. When Christy tried to talk her out of it, Jill got very upset and yelled, "Are you saying that I'd be a bad mother?" Of course the writers completely missed the point, because Christy should have responded by saying, "It's not because you'd be a bad mother... it's because you'd be a bad father."
Women aren't men, and when they try they fail. Look at all the feminist and tradcon caterwauling about male trannies beating women in sports: they try to shame the guys by saying how mediocre they are, apparently without realizing that the are HUGE implications to the fact that even "mediocre" male athletes taking t-blockers are absolutely crushing so-called "elite" female athletes. Maybe if those girls stopped trying to succeed at the masculine endeavor of physical domination we could avoid all this awkwardness, but that never seems to occur to anybody.
"We became the men we were going to marry" is wrong. What they should say is, "We became poor substitutes for the men we were going to marry."
Most men (and all HVM) would prefer a first-rate woman over a second-rate man.
Oddest-One-Here 1y ago
The only men that might value a woman's earning ability is a man who cannot afford to be the sole breadwinner, but women do not want a man who earns so little, they want men who can easily afford to be the sole breadwinner and funnily enough, those men do not value a woman's earning potential, rather they rather have a young debt-free woman who has the 5Fs (friendly, fit, feminine, faithful and frugal) and sometimes the sixth F, which is fertile.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I'd even argue that for top tier men (who have assets that would be at risk when considering a woman for a committed relationship) that quite often higher earning potential on her part can be considered a negative due to said earning potential inflating her fiscal and social status expectations to a completely unreasonable level.
Because that is the subtext these women send when they brag about that their careers: that they expect the man to still out-earn and out status her by a large margin, as well as be her physical better in strength, health, and appearance, and that if he slips up even slightly in any area for any reason, she will bail and take with her far more assets than she brought to the table to begin with.
Yeah, can't image why these over accredited cunts are having a hard time finding a
suckerman to put a ring on it.Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Well, if my choice is an older, dried up, bitter harpy intent on making everyone as miserable as she is or going to therapy....I would choose my therapist. Here is my usual greeting to him:
"Hey Bartender! Anything but Bud Light."
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I quite enjoy drinking bud light in front of the dead-eyed cousin fuckers at my local drive bar.
As a matter of principle, I usually don't drink bud light because it's the equivalent of paying a prostitute for a hand job but to rustle some jimmies, I'll happily endure that swill.
itsandrewbuck 1y ago
Well speaking of Bud Light, the social landscape appears to be screaming that we treat transvestites as "real women", so now the washed up hags are competing with the chicks-with-dicks set. And the genetic women aren't screaming much about that. Instead of blaming the traditional, genetic, 'normal' men, maybe they should be more angry about their role in society being further diminished by the gender-identification movement.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
It's all clown world.
The only thing that I don't tolerate is when they demand that I see them as sexually desirable women.
SSeuSS 1y ago
'I know that because, young chads do not understand my jokes being the reason they don't want to lay with me'
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I don't recall the last time I heard a joke from a woman (any age) that was in the least bit funny. We are not with women for the jokes. We get the jokes from guy time, meeting with our buddies. When we spend time with women.... it aint for the jokes.
SSeuSS 8mo ago
But you can make yourself amused at the cost of a woman. In a calibrated way, but still.
This is cool part of the game, you get amused - she gets wet, everyone is happy.
BTW, I have just learned that dry air ( less than 30% ) at home, means increased propagation of viruses and bacteria. This explains why woman needs to get wet on regular basis and needs chad for that.
Sneedle 1y ago
Military grade copium right here. I've been noticing more and more feminists shaming these consentual relationships between two adults.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Yes but the older wahmens don't consent to 50 year old men banging 24 year old chicks, so its not consensual, WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU SEXIST PIG!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
@Seagram7 (and anyone else) - though Trevor's response is funny, a better post would be an archived (via archive.is) version of Caitlin's
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