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ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1y ago Stickied
I thought this post was interesting because it emphasizes almost everything we talk about in this forum:
First, despite all her protestations, she admits that she still would like a man in her life: "I’m sure it would be lovely if someone else was in my life and wanted the same thing, but I’ve just never met them. It’s usually about catering to them, and there has to be a balance." IOW, she's still looking for a good man.
Second, at one point, she was one of the hottest women on Earth and basically every male in not just America but the world (Baywatch was literally the most watched TV show in the world) knew who she was. And yet she couldn't find a guy that could make her happy. And she blames this on men. If out of 3 billion men on this Earth, you couldn't find one that could a) make you happy and b) put up with your shit; then the problem is with you, not with men.
Third, we know why #2 is true. It's because when she was one of the hottest, most recognizable women on Earth, she used those advantages to date not-good-men like Tommy Lee and a string of other guys who gave her the tingles but otherwise were not going to give her long-term happiness. This isn't some retrospective 20/20 vision. Even at the time they got together, most people could easily predict it would end in shambles. The tabloids were all salivating over watching the slow-motion destruction as it happened. Most likely, she knew this as well. But she didn't care. And so out of the 3 billion men that she had available to her, she chose the ones that would give her “the hardest, lowest, most difficult point of my life” (her words in describing her marriage to Tommy Lee).
But she's smarter and wiser now! So why can't she find someone? And that's the final point #4. Anderson is 55 years old. She finished her time on Baywatch at age 30. She was still popular and could easily attract men for years after that, and for much longer than an average woman might have been able to. But even for someone like Anderson, time runs out. And the fall is steep. Despite her fame, money, etc. none of it is enough to compensate for the decline in her appearance (and likely personality) to the point where no man (of the caliber that she wants) is interested in her any longer. She also has 2 kids, and about a half dozen failed marriages. Her relationship value has plummeted and despite her implication that she refuses to settle, at this point, even an average guy her age would be settling for her, not the other way around.
At this point Anderson joins other celebrities like Sharon Stone, Charlize Theron, and other women who were at the pinnacle of female desirability, had basically the entire world's male population from which to choose someone who would make them happy, failed to choose wisely, and now will likely spend the rest of her years alone, no matter how much she may wish to turn things around now.
P.S. This being Jezebel, of course the writer's headline is predictably You Go Gurl! As if living in your grandmother's house, alone, for the rest of your years, is something to be celebrated. Also, the author never asks: if this life is so awesome, her grandmother achieved it while also marrying (I assume) and having kids. IOW, she managed to live this feminist author's "Dream Life" and have a life partner to spend her later years with. All without being a modern feminist. In contrast, her granddaughter, despite hitting the feminist jackpot of money, independence, and the freedom to ride a truly global cock carousel for decades, in terms of her "Dream Life", she has achieved at best half of what her grandmother did (the same house, but no life partner). #lifegoals indeed.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Sadly, the lesson will remain untaught.
You know what I love about being a man? I can look back at the things other men have experienced and say "I won't do that."
It has served me well and allowed me to not only avoid the pitfalls that come with being a poor black boy raised by a single mother, but work my way to the top 15%.
Will women look at this and learn?
NOPE.
Women will see this and think "I'll be the exception!" it's a dark, cold, and lonely future for this generation of women
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
And honestly, I’m here for it. Women my age (I’m 37) are divorcing their husband for whatever reason, or trying desperately to get off the CC and “settle down”, or a myriad of other things. They’re going to hit 55, find that no man wants to deal with them anymore, and see years of being alone as their future. And as much more of a pack animal than us men, I can only imagine how much horror that would cause a woman. The single moms are going to emotionally manipulate their kids to watch over them into old age, and the pure spinsters will struggle hard.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Every time I see them practicing this sort of magical thinking, I am reminded of the de motivational poster/aphorism:
"Before trying to beat the odds, make sure you can survive the odds beating you."
Einsamer 1y ago
Very well said. I want to add of my own flavor here, but first one thing:
I wish that were true, but I don't think so. As we know, women like the top 10-20% men. A man of 55 years is most likely beyond his SMV peak (unelss he managed to get rich and started working out just recently etc.). The average man at 55 years is desperately throbbing for women and most likely on orbiter. For the top 10-20% it's certainly true though - maybe that's what you meant?
That minor nitpick aside, I want to add that women, just like men, value deep connections and friendship. It's probably different between genders, but I believe that women start to appreciate it more and more as they grow older and their SMV drops. However, at the same time, most women never learned how to be good friends and make deep connections, except for being a slutty "wingwoman" and complaing about men over a glass of wine.
As for the reasons: competition among women is different and collaboration is required less. Also, men provide for women, so they don't have to rely on friends as much. Classical example: if a women has to stay over somewhere, she can just ask one of her orbiters and they will gladly provide it for free. And that starts from a very young age for women, probably even from 14yo or so. As for a man? The vast majority has no orbiters. They either need to have money for a hotel or have a good friend to crash at if needed. So they NEED to be successfull (which often requires connections/friendship too) or the NEED to have good friends.
Therefore, not only has Pamela lost her SMV, she also has no deep/connections and true friends, so she suffers even more and her feeling of "needing someone" is worse than for even single low-SMV men her age.
That being said, I don't pity her - the opposite. She enjoyed her best years, having so much fun and tingles, I'm envious. If I would have to live again and could choose between her life and mine, I would definitely choose hers. But right now, she's certainly worse off than me.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
You want that big Tommy Lee dick too?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
You would choose her life??? Gosh. I wouldn't. I don't know that much about her, but I am thinking it was a life of pure misery. I would not trade places with her anything. I can't imagine how terrible it would be to be 55 years old and still not an adult. Still not able to process reality.
She has only a lonely life ahead of her, most likely in abject poverty. She has probably already blown over $100m by being stupid, she will likely blow whatever is left over very soon. And there will be no bailout options, nobodies going to want to bone a 55 year old. She probably doesn't even have any girl friends, because most normal sane women at 55 have spent the last 25 years raising a family. Nobody is going to want to make a movie with her, nobody wants anything from her.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I want something from her.
silence.
I'd love to get that from her.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The wall remains undefeated.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Is it possible to learn this power?
wswZtyqNGQ 1y ago
Not from a feminist.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Lots of them are suddenly realizing that they might need to learn how to ride bicycles.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
She could’ve had any man that was “good enough to deserve her”. Go to Greenwich, CT and see all of the men who have worked hard and achieved great wealth that are around Pamela Anderson’a age, especially ones of good moral caliber. Almost all of them would’ve married prime Pamela. Instead, they married whatever wife they have and that woman gets to benefit from his hard work.
Instead, let’s look at her resume
Tommy Lee: quintessential bad boy who always looked strung out on drugs. Also was already 0 for 2 in marriages before being Pamela’s first husband.
Kid Rock: I like Kid Rock and he’s definitely more tame than Tommy Lee, but he’s still a rocker and showman.
Rick Salomon (2x): basically known for being a loser at high stakes multi table poker tournaments and a sex tape with Paris Hilton (and given Pamela’s background, this probably wasn’t a coincidence). Also a two time marriage failure to high profile women before marrying Pamela.
John Peters: Pamela claims that they never legally married. Not even counting that one, he had been married 4 times before, as well as a long relationship with Barbara Streisand. The money line about him from Wikipedia is “ Several of his marriages and relationships overlapped each other.”.
Dan Hayhurst: most recent one. He is a bodyguard. No more celebs for Pamela.
Throughout her high profile dating and marital history, there’s literally one example (Kid rock) of a guy who wasn’t absolute napalm to any sort of stable relationship. everyone else was a train wreck in some way. And since you are what you attract, what does that say about Pam?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I'm not in the least bit surprised. She chose bad boys all her life, this is what you end up with.
The surprising thing is just how little cash she seems to have after a life as one of the most successful actresses of all time. At one point she was the lead actress on the most popular tv show of all time. She had everything - should could get huge appearance money just for turning up. Now she lives in her grandmas house. A career like hers should have generated at least $50-$150m in revenue over the 30 years that she spent in the limelight. Where is it all? She's scrabbling around for cash, you can tell: Turned the renovation into a tv show, is having a book ghost written.
But hey, shes a strong independent woman. She doesn't need a man to help her manage her cash.
I would not be the least bit surprised if that house went up for sale soon.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I'm not surprised. Literal whores and strippers easily make enough money to not have to work in the last half of their lives, but they are shit at managing it too. Lot of it disappears up their noses or into their arms via needle.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
It's twofold:
The money is earned by trading a commodity they have in abundance (their youth) to an audience that they think is infinite. The money is fast and easy so they don't respect it.
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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Another good example is Mick Jagger. Ugly AF but gets chicks.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago
Women may bang the best looking guys. For dating, however? Being seen on his arm in public? People knowing you're together and other women doing their calculations?
Status > ALL.
When you're on top o' the heap what you look or whether you're loaded almost don't matter.
Of course, the instant your status wanes they'll ditch you faster than you can blink, which is why you should be working on developing yourself in multiple ways and, equally important, learning to accept things as they are, including your current position in life.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Yup. An easy shorthand for any lurkers - every woman is a prostitute, the only difference is the terms and conditions she'll agree to. Don't believe me? Try showing up to the bargaining table without the currency she is demanding, see how far you get.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago
To be fair, that goes both ways. I ain't offering protection or provision to a woman who isn't giving me anything I want either.
All socio-sexual relationships are fundamentally transactional but that doesn't mean they're strictly transactional - indeed, anyone who treats them as such will quickly find themselves ostracized from any well-ordered society.
It's the primary thing all zombie/post-apocalypse stories get wrong about human nature: human beings are fundamentally cooperative rather than competitive. Yes, there is a degree of competition between men in the same tribe that drives fitness and builds social bonds, as well as a degree of competition between different tribes and cultures over... well, a whole mess o' things, only some of which have any basis in logical factors such as resource acquisition, but I digress. We didn't rise to the position of the dominant life form on Earth by out-competing each other, but by working together to out-compete everything else.
A good woman will recognize this and have her man's back even when things aren't going his way because cooperative altruism and perseverance ultimately lead to better outcomes for all involved than shortsighted tit-for-tat bargaining.
The trick, of course, is finding such a woman and making of yourself a man worthy of such loyalty.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
FTFY, you ditzy dame.
Yeah, I feel bad for those men too.
If I roll my eyes any harder, they'll get stuck back there.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1y ago
Yeah, the whole article is a barf fest but I just wanted to focus on the relationship part.
I can't believe the author is trying to make Anderson the victim. She chose a career in Hollywood and fame and money and everything that goes along with it. She chose the type of guy who would make a sextape public. She's not a victim of anything. I doubt she even feels that bad about the sextape. She went on Playboy when she was a relative unknown to try to get more attention in Hollywood. She's used her body shamelessly for decades to get ahead. This is not a woman who's uncomfortable with trading her naked body for fame and fortune. Maybe she wouldn't have released it herself, but I guarantee you she'd be more pissed if it was leaked and no one bothered watching it.
And to the feminist author, again, it never strikes her that, hey, if Anderson living the feminist dream (fame, fortune, cocks-o-plenty) was actually a nightmare, but living a quiet life in a small house in Canada is the actual dream, uh... Anderson's grandmother achieved it -- and more i.e. a husband -- without having to go through the feminist "nightmare" that her granddaughter had to. Why not do a profile on her?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
FFS, dude, the goddamn article you linked had her showing her nipples through her clothing, in two different photos.
She knew good and fucking well what she was doing, too.
...desperately trying to regain some relevance, mit ihre Omahangentitten.
Edited to tag @lurkerhasarisen as this is relevant to your comment as well.
Oh yeah, and it's my turn to tag @redpillschool.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Those first two jumped right off the page at me:
She had the world at her feet, and the only reasons were that she had a nice body, she was willing to show it off and become fabulously rich and famous off the money of men she would never give the time of day to, and she was lucky. Let's face it: there is no shortage of beautiful women willing to show their bodies for money, but she was the one who caught a break and landed a part on "Baywatch."
So what did she do with her sky-high SMV? She opened her legs for a long series of "bad boys." Imagine how her life would have been had she combined all those assets (great beauty, international fame, vast wealth) with virtue.
Not only was she not forced to endure the bad things that happened to her... those things weren't even incidental... she actively sought out the kinds of situations where such outcomes are inevitable.
There's that word again: deserve. I hate to beat a dead horse, but I keep coming back to this because it pops up so frequently in things written by women. Why does she deserve a better outcome than the one her own choices produced? When she could have had nearly any man in the world, why did she deserve better men than the ones she pursued?
Of course this is Jezebel: a publication deliberately named after one of the most evil women in the Bible. We can read stories like this about how a woman who stood at the absolute pinnacle of privilege deserves better, but you'll never see a story about the countless men who played by the rules, led lives of duty and honor, and were destroyed by the legal system when their wives decided to live like Pamela Anderson rather than to honor their wedding vows.
Edit: my wife is about the same age as Pamela Anderson, and was also an attractive 20-something blue-eyed blonde at the time Pamela was. Unlike Pamela, though, she had/has something that Pamela lacks: virtue. My wife does not bear the scars of a half-dozen failed marriages to bad boys. She does not appear in any sex tapes. She doesn't come home to an empty farmhouse wishing she had someone she likes to share it with. I'm pretty sure she would be willing to switch houses with her, but there's no way she would want to switch lives.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
But, um, good women don't make history.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
In Indonesia wicker furniture is what poor people have... just sayin.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I grew up in the Deep South, and that was the case there, too.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago
Fun fact: Jezebel is one of the leading causes of eye-cancer.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
This deluded bitch:
"I live a more romantic life now that I’m alone than I did in relationships,” she says. “l light my candles, have my music playing. I have my piano."
Yeah, when you want a snuggle nothing beats the caress of multiple metal strings tensioned so hard they could take your fucking eye out.
“I don’t need someone to bring me roses,” Anderson continues. “I’ve just planted a hundred rose bushes."
And those bushes will be out there, full of thorns in the winter time, bereft of flowers when you're downing your sixth glass of wine on a winter evening.
Then the author gets into her own little inspin fantasy:
"Because what could be more romantic than living a quiet life in a pretty house with a good gal pal?"
A man that is there for you, provides for you, takes care of you when you're sick and will have kids with you. Oh wait, you blew that so now all you get is your fantasy novels and a LOT of time to think about how much of a complete idiot you are.
Bet you anything that once the cameras leave, Anderson is sitting in that swing thinking about her ex, because you can't fuck a summer breeze or stuff a rose up your cooch.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
all that talk is a cope. She's trying to convince herself. Lets be fair, it's quite a climb down for her. At one point she was the most common poster girl in the world. Guys had posters of her in that red swim suit on their bedroom walls all over the world. Now, not even Pedro, the fat 50 year old amazon delivery guy will give her a second glance. In terms of SMV, she used to Apple Inc, now she is Enron.
And its all her fault. She could have found a guy to get old with. But no, she wanted the bad boy tingles.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Pamela who? Oh well, tell her I'm taken. She missed her chance 20 years ago. What's ironical is that I've been to Vancouver Island several times over the past few decades. Even as a single guy.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
What would expect? From the streets she emerged, and to the streets she shall return...
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I really hope this article sets a trend. What washed-up, aged-out Hollywood whore will be featured next? I doubt they will be as perfect a poster child as Pammy here.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
The thing that I find interesting is that these feminists are all the time comparing themselves to celebrities.
"Oh, gosh, Pamela Anderson has a big forehead, and I have a big forehead, so I'm *special* like Pamela Anderson is, therefore I *deserve* to have Pamela Anderson's life too!"
What they fail to realize is that the world of celebrities is completely different than the average Joann Shmoann world. They can't bring themselves to accept the reality that they aren't any more special than the next feminist slut, even the ones who got lucky and hit the genetic lottery.
"Oh, I'm a model/dancer/singer/actress blah blah blah."
Nobody but you gives a fuck about your delusional made-up qualifications. If you're not in a Hollywood blockbuster (or at least some shitty B movie), you're just another set of wet holes like all the other sluts around you.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
As I wrote upthread (and as I and many others have noted over the years), feminism is dependent on the Apex Fallacy. Women almost always look up: they feel envious of the infinitesimally small number of male CEOs, but they barely notice the existence of the millions of men who fix the pipes, drive the trucks, and swing the hammers. I suppose that's rooted in whatever causes women to be hypergamous: we know from multiple studies that women only find about 20% of men attractive.
So when women look at what their lives could (theoretically) be like, they don't look at the barrista or the checkout girl or the hairdresser... they look at the A-list actress or the A-list supermodel or the woman married to the A-list politician, no matter how average and uninspiring they are themselves.
Other than a tendency to make spectacularly bad decisions, the writer and Pamela Anderson probably have very little in common, yet some nobody who writes for a crappy feminist e-rag imagines herself in an erzatz marriage with one of the most recognizable celebrities in the world.
To mix a couple of cultural references: her cringe level is over 9000.
There are few things that a woman can do that will steer her toward a life of contentment better than to recognize her natural tendency toward always looking up. Unchecked hypergamy and the normalization of the Apex Fallacy practically ensure misery for the women who allow themselves to be unduly swayed.
Starfish1 1y ago
Makes sense, when you are hyper successful, only sky is the limit. Meeting successful men that are playing / dating around, she knows they are not good prospects but has to bite the bullet and try to settle down with those men, because she is insert celeb name here and then divorce. You saying there are 3 billion men is not correct, maybe 1000 men in Usa she would like and she did not met them, and if she would recognised them.