Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago Stickied
This Carol here helped us kick-start the Epiphany Phase flair. I would recommend everyone to read the comments there as well.
Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/bw9rrd/new_carol_unlocked_the_epiphany_phase_a_woman_who/
ScribhneoirIldanach Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
Gaelige-Béarla Translations:
seamsánaí beagmhaitheasach= "worthless winnger"
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4y ago
Lol she slipped up and told on herself when complaining about being alone on vacations if she even had the money to go on one.
That's what this is really about.
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reignoferror00 4y ago
Can't stand the sound of silence at home - guess who she will word vomit at about every triviality at every chance she gets, and bitch at when he stops appearing to listen.
Gunning for you with the female version of "lock and load" - lock up a man and load him with financial burdens. Holidays - since she doesn't have the money to do it herself, a wedding to keep up with the Jones, and of course that eventual fix all for her life: a baby - guess who better have a great paying job and/or is going to work their ass of to pay for that and deal with her disappointment and disillusionment when she find out taking care of a baby isn't some constant joyfest.
If she isn't keeping up with the fantasy of a life her friends are presenting on social media, she won't be happy. And if she's not happy she's more than willing to spread the condition around to you.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago
That caught my attention too. Why am I not surprised that someone who feels compelled to post a vent video on the internet for validation cannot stand silence? I love silence; the only sound I love more is jazz.
A few girlfriends ago I remember wanting to go to new places - even if locally. I had an okayish job, but I kept trying to figure out why I wasn't already doing that, and then I realised it was because I was dating. I had to pay for my share of things and hers (even if not for all, for some of it), I depended on her schedule too, and she really wasn't goint to help me plan for things.
Also:
We have a feminist on the making here.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
When it comes to 'deafening silence' I prefer the sound of rain or at the very least a fan.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 4y ago
On a purely human level I relate to that. A lot. I've gone virtually the whole of my adult life completely untouched. It's lonely as fuck and it sucks.
Thing is, I know it's on me to change that. Get off my ass. Get out of the house. Find ways to get myself around people and present opportunities for new things to happen. And, most importantly, figure out what's wrong with me that I can't manage to get what I want.
Is it because I'm simply not good enough? Then figure out how I can get better. Have I neglected to develop something about myself that might improve how others view me? Well get on that. Are my expectations unrealistic? Time to reevaluate and seek input from others who can give me a more objective take on things.
On some level it sucks to accept you're generally the source of all your own problems. On the other hand, it's also incredibly empowering. You are literally the only thing in the entire world over which you have complete control, which means you have everything you need to fix whatever is wrong with you. You just need to put in the time and effort.
Sadly, Carol there ain't gonna' do that. She told us as much when she said "I know the problem isn't me."
Yes. The problem is you. It may not be exclusively you, but you are the only part of it over which you have full control. First, clean your room, then be amazed at how quickly and neatly everything else starts falling into place.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4y ago
I appreciate the message, but something we're painfully aware of in modern society is that this isn't something we can unilaterally fix. Even if you clean your room and improve yourself, you can't necessarily make the pool of women better on your own and each generation, it just keeps getting worse. Heck, that's part of the trap in that as men have had to improve their game and work harder, there's less offered. At what point is the juice no longer worth the squeeze for all intents and purposes for many?
I personally went through this journey on my own where I read dozens of books on self-improvement, subjected myself to the toughest criticism, and put in the effort to communicate with a woman whose feminine disposition makes her resistant to common logic. I am not praising myself because I BARELY made it happen. It took me 15 years just to get over all my baggage that the culture had saddled me with, then figure out how to make things work with her, and to do this in time to be a decent father. I don't know that if things were different, could I have done it?
Imagine telling a young man today: "Hey. Work on yourself for a decade like a dog, save all your money, and the woman you marry 99.9% will take all your stuff and make you into a serf for kids you never get to see and if you're lucky, they MAY be yours." I'm reminded of a cartoon of a praying mantis on his wedding night telling the female: "I don't know what to do. My mother never told me and I never knew my father."
It's amusing and tragic that men are beginning to fall out from the harshest Olympics level dating requirements while women such as profiled in this video can't handle swimming in the kiddie pool. Sure, she's 30 something and her biological clock is ticking, but with just a fraction of the effort men such as my grandfather had to make, she could easily land a beta bucks that my grandmother would be envious of.
The primary thing holding such a woman back isn't just what she wants out of men, but that NOT putting in an effort is now as essential to a modern woman's definition of a romantic relationship as all the other factors put together. Perhaps because they realize that even when enough of them start doing that, the whole system requiring men, and only men, to engage in self-improvement collapses like housing bubbles.
What we are witnessing in real time is the topping out of a chivalrous patronage ideal taken to its logical extreme requiring not only levels of performance that men increasingly can't, or won't, want to match but also increasing numbers of otherwise good looking women dying alone and childless.
I thought the peak was going to hit in the 1990's but I underestimate market exuberance (I'd be a billionaire if I could tune that :-) The resistance of markets to rational logic is exceptional.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 4y ago
Having expressed essentially the same sentiment in the past I can hardly argue the point here. Maybe I was feeling overly introspective when I wrote that.
Well, that and I simply refuse to accept this is endgame. Shit's bad, yes, and it doesn't seem to be getting better anytime soon, but I can do my best to make things better, even if only for me.
Maybe I'm fooling myself. Probably, even. But I've been lonely for so long, some days it's all I can do to remain upright and functional. If this is all I have to look forward to for the next 20, 30, 50+ years... I genuinely don't think I can handle that.
Which isn't a pleasant thought and it's not what I'm supposed to say but, fuck, going literal decades without being touched by another human being isn't directly related to me... There's a reason solitary confinement is reserved for the worst offenses and the most unrepentant criminals. Humans just aren't built for that kind of physical and social isolation, especially not long-term. It fucks people up.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4y ago
I sum up the dichotomy of Richard Cooper vs black pill MGTOW: Can someone improve their way out of loneliness versus just accepting fate and figuring out how to live with it? The problem is that each generation of men has had the goalposts moved with getting less from women as reflected by men seeming to think "Well, a generation ago feminism wasn't anti-male" Well, it always was, really, but the frog is being slowly boiled.
So yeah, it is possible for any man to bust his arse to improve which is why I focused early on "sustainable game" or at least game that didn't make things worse. It's a form of environmentalism: I strove to not make women worse even as I made things better for myself. I cut a few women I could have had loose just out of principle and it did feel good to do so both in terms of giving me an abundance mindset and sending the message to women: You can't ALWAYS get one of us, even if you're otherwise better than average.
I have a woman colleague at work, early 60's, and I think she's going through severe depression. Even at her age, she can get laid pretty much anytime, but her mental state is going. I remember back 40 years ago in that there were aging bachelors and spinsters, widows, etc. but they were the exception rather than the norm.
All I can say, in hindsight, is that if I could do things over again I would tell my younger self to focus on physical intimacy rather than emotional. Sex with a physical condom isn't all that bad, but we don't have condoms for the mind other than our own mental discipline and an acceptance that until you've slept with a woman for at least a year, you don't even begin to know anything about them. They can appear sweet and kind in many instances but once you decide to want to have an intimate relationship with them, and at least for a year, their true mental state is a mystery. Having er, been with professionals, I'll say it was superior to 95% of every relationship I ever had.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 4y ago
See, to me, intimacy is inherently emotional.
'Course, I didn't always think that way, which is a large part of what got me into my current predicament. I "knew," with all the certainty only a testosterone-fueled 20-something male can have, I never wanted to get married or have kids so I pursued purely casual "relationships." This naturally resulted in me pairing off (however briefly) with CC riders who were just stupid and/or broken as I am. Mixed among those were two or three reasonably decent women with whom I might have been able to build something more but they pretty quickly realized that wasn't what I was looking for and moved on.
Anymore, having sex with a woman without any sort of emotional connection actually makes me more depressed. It's not intimate. It's hollow. Like eating a seven course meal and leaving the table ravenously hungry.
Obviously other men are built differently. More power to the Chads o' the world. I just can't do it.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
The sexual marketplace can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.
wswZtyqNGQ 4y ago
Fantastically well said!
There is absolutely no way that they have that level of intelligence.
The easier explanation is that women are just really, really lazy.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4y ago
Fun story: I have a friend who looks like Barbie. She's a hot looking single mother, but doing well and has a good job, runs a successful side business, and has her life pretty well put together although she has this workaholic streak in her. She's not "lazy" in a business/academic sense and in that regard, I'd consider her similar to an alpha male. Her hypergamy has her wanting an "ambitious" man whose also a hard work investor type but she has been somewhat flexible on her looks demands (her current on-off boyfriend looks similar to me.)
So where I'm going with this is that she's dumb about sexual relationships and doesn't ask me for advice even though she knows I'm a survivor type with down-to-earth wisdom. So be it, not my problem. She tried the dating apps but aside from that, doesn't make an effort of any kind to land the man she says she wants. She'll happily prattle on all day about the importance of passive investment income and approach people about that, but she has zero, repeat, zero "game" when it comes to social dating skills.
She craves the man being the hunter and clubbing her on the head and dragging her to the cave. Hence, she has compromised on both looks AND income in the past. The baby daddy was good looking, but dumb as rocks and the new guy has a dad bod, but is an entrepreneur (but his business has issues.)
She's foreign born so there's some element of female "hardware" kicking in here (and I think her foreign origins makes her more reasonable and grounded than American women) but still, I do know that women of the past and particularly elsewhere are capable of social skills when there's a social system in place to teach them.
I'm training my 6 year old daughter by taking her to the playground and telling her to ask other kids to play. She doesn't want to risk rejection so I go and show her "Would you like to play tag with my daughter?" and she sees it's not all that bad, and I console her for the few rejections she receives, and she learns.
I don't want her to be a houseplant when she grows up waiting for PUA's to pick her up or following tingles so I want to raise her to be an adult. I don't think it's just girls that aren't getting proper instruction but boys as well who are encouraged in academics and athletics, but rarely receive social skill and emotional maturity instruction from their parents except the "sink or swim" method which, although it's lousy, it's better than nothing.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
I've commented many a time on that other platform about people (mainly and especially women) who can't stand silence; it's because deep down, they can't stand their own thoughts because they hate themselves.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
That's exactly right. I used to be like that until I stopped being a complete and total piece of shit so I could stand to be around myself.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
She can have all that, all she needs to do is check her friend-zone.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
Epiphany Phase. Heh...I like to call it the Dead Cat Bounce.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
Saw this video on undead chronic’s channel. Obviously from a human perspective, you do harbor SOME pity for someone feeling this low.
OTOH, she’s an attractive woman. Even post-wall. What she doesn’t realize is that all of the things she wants to have at home are not what men want. What do we want? Sex and kids. Let us smash and sometimes have a kid that looks like us pop out of you.
I don’t know her exact age. I’d imagine 33-37? Well, still time to hook a guy who’s been brainwashed into dating at “age appropriate” levels. He might even try to put a kid in you.
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