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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Attention Whore

Thousands of Friendzone Fionas agree that no one treats them better than the dude they don't want. This confirms that many women reject men that they KNOW are better than the jerks they chase.
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kevin32

Posted 3y ago in Attention Whore - Permalink - Locked - 3.6K Views



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Initial-Glove Wahmyns 3y ago

I agree with the last dude.

How is this a problem? Let them chase Chad and keep getting burnt. Quality guys dont want these dumb broads anyways. And they are dumb.. None of their talking points here made any sense.

Begging dudes to treat them right?? Sounds like a "her" problem she could easily solve, but I already covered this. Dumb. Just dumb.

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Sir_Juchart 3y ago

I simply don't care, they can stick it up their arse or what ever. You know who has the ability to treat you just right? Yourself. Once you realize this, you don't need someone. At least, it is working for me.

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aldabruzzo No busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 3y ago

All of TRP and WAATGM summarized in one thread.

Except that one girl "we do like nice guys but they gotta have a strong masculine aspect with a spark of dominance"

She's almost right, but you have to flip the alpha and beta. She is describing more beta than alpha; when the truth is women want more alpha than beta. They do not want nice guys who can, sometimes, show masculinity and dominance.

Women want strong, masculine, dominant men who are nice to them. They want assholes who are nice to them, not nice guys who can be assholes sometimes.

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RedPill115 3y ago

It's just more obvious what guys want is impossible.

A girl who's tall, and short.
A girl with small firm boobs, and big boobs.
A girl who's a virgin, and immediately gives hood head and gets her attractive female friends to come over for orgies.

They want assholes who are nice to them, not nice guys who can be assholes sometimes.

Girls want assholes, who are nice to them.

Eventually she "settles" for someone who actually exists.

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 3y ago

...do a lot of guys want that?

Caring about height is a woman's thing. Men don't care how tall a woman is beyond being leery about her being taller than him, which I think is more down to the knowledge women generally aren't attracted to shorter men than any problem with her being taller.

Similarly, most men want a woman with firm, pert breasts, usually on the larger size, but I've yet to meet a man who wants small and large simultaneously.

A dick-sucking pro with an intact hymen and ready-made orgy is just a straight up porn fantasy. I can't imagine any guy who isn't a stupid teenager seriously wanting that without realizing how ridiculous it is.

In my experience, the qualities most men look for in a woman, at least for anything long term (which is what we're usually dealing with here), are summed up thus: reasonably attractive, not fat, no kids, pleasant company.

That's it. Pretty much everything else is negotiable.

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RedPill115 3y ago

Kinda feels like you mighta missed the first line:

It's just more obvious what guys want is impossible.

Girls want the asshole and also the emotionally invested and manipulated guy. It's just that it's far less obvious to them that those are contradictory and you can't have both in the same person.

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aldabruzzo No busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 3y ago

When you get all the way down to it, men want attractive women who want to fuck them and who are not bitches, who will fuck without commitment. Men want as much sexual variety as possible for as little investment as possible.

Men will compromise and will settle, gladly, on one attractive woman who wants to fuck them and who is not a bitch and who will cooperate with him. The five Fs: Fit, feminine, friendly, fun, fucking. Or The Kevin Samuels equation: Fit, feminine, friendly, cooperative, submissive.

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 3y ago

Yes. Alpha bucks, not beta fucks.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago

They want assholes who are nice to them

The occasional kindness.

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STAYShredded 3y ago

And then these guy realise how badly they've been fucked over their whole life and that if they want anything from their lives they need to change... insert the red pill and weeks later they're being called 'women haters'.

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Whocares 3y ago

Word concept fallacies abound. Nice, dominant, confident, etc are all used by women and men, but dont mean the same thing

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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 3y ago

Women do want the complete package, though that is quite rare to find. Very few men if any can meet the balance to be the most desirable to women, and often that balance is impossible when the desires are contradictory.

So what is the result? Women ultimately select a man with the traits they prioritize. This is not necessarily the most optimal for a long term relationship, but rather conforms to what a woman perceives is the most important traits for a man to have. So if a woman complains about the guys she dates being jerks, then the traits of a guy who treats her better were not really that important to her. At least not important enough to filter out the kind of man she complains about.

It is not as if women cannot identify this kind of man. Rather, they are choosing to avoid this man despite having nothing preventing them from doing so. So when a woman says she wants a nice guy but does not date one, she shows that her words mean nothing.

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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.

In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.

Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.

But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.

Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.

The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.


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