I’m not doubting it—I’m wondering if as men we can come together to ratify this messed up situation.

I’d rather go read a book or take my family on a vacation than find pleasure in fucking on another man’s woman. I’ve had girls with boyfriends sleep with me and overtly flirt in front of their man, but it didn’t make me feel “alpha.” It made me feel disgusted.

One man’s whore is truly another man’s housewife and I think that’s a shame.

I had some “perfect plates” who literally said they looked up to me. But I don’t want that dynamic—I want someone to look eye to eye with but that is next to impossible in current society because girls literally spend their best years choosing up like TRP says (and most often fail.)

Agreed and you don’t even have to go all the way to Eastern Europe to notice the difference. I leave NYC and the bitches are less broken because they haven’t been ran through by every playboy under the sun.

Also, coming from a non-Western culture, our older women have a sense about them. They literally tell girls to get married before 25 and they always seek a compatible man so there’s not a huge imbalance of power. NYC women and US women really drank the koolaid and ruined their youth. They failed to cash out. That’s why they are so depressed in their 30’s onwards. Some are still on hedonism train as their sexual rebirth like they didn’t have enough already. The culture is just there to make them feel less stupid because the honest truth is they got played hard.

I suppose it’s a terrible time to find a wife but a great one to score pussy. Sometimes, I question if that’s even worth my time because a wife builds with you. Pussy just distracts you from your mission.

But because my SMV is to the point girls will give me clear IOI’s, why not enjoy the decline if you have time? I literally haven’t gone past 3 dates with any girl in 5 years now—and 99% of them fucked on the first date. They all think I’m in their league but how could that be true? There are hundreds of these hoes and they all interchangeable.

I understand that part. Incentives dictate outcomes.

What I wonder sometimes is that if we as men can stop the decline. I wasn’t thinking about this when I was young but I’m almost 30 now and would love a wife. But I don’t want a hoe or former hoe. I know better. I also don’t want some dumb girl from Eastern Europe or some shit.

I feel like “plating” girls keeps them hopeful that’s their league and eventually they will lock a man at that level. It furthers the collective delusion. If you just fuck once and ghost, that would be better because they would get the message. If all men did that, women would be knocked down a few rungs.

Or even better, men go celibate and give nothing to these hoes. They think they can fuck themselves into a relationship or fuck around with one guy and then get love from another but if men just said no, we would stop the decline and power would shift to not just alpha males but all men.

Women do love. Just from below, which pisses me off. I can’t “love back” from that position.

You may be right about the decline. The cat can’t be put back in the bag. Only women as a whole can stop their condition but I doubt that will happen. Some of my late 20’s girl friends who had 7-8 year long hoe phases are really struggling to find a boyfriend or husband they respect. It never occurs to them that maybe their standards are too high—but they all love to talk shit about men being assholes. They are also on to TRP and think it’s the cause of their misery. Ironically, I heard the term alpha most from women I know.

You’re right but we disagree on root causes. I don’t think all women are inferior to all men. They just for superior men. They might even go for equal men but that’s after they have taken like 100 dicks, found zero commitment and got humbled.

And from experience, my equal is probably somewhere trying to lock down that investment banker, celebrity or what have you and she’s going to eat shit because that’s what is happening 99% of the time. The 1000 cock stare that TRP talks about: that’s the face of a deep existential realization that she done fucked up.

I had a girl like that who thought she was above me until she turned 27 and got desperate. We’re perfect match on paper but I can’t see this girl in the face without knowing she consciously tried to find better men through her youth, and only wants me after she ate shit and realized that’s not her level. She never thought I was beta. She called me a fuckboy—but she always through some famous guy was going to cuff her.

Bezos boggles me. Dude worked his ass off to find a regular thot who is now making him do stupid, tacky shit. She may not get money out of it but she’s sure as hell secured semi celeb status.

And I agree with you on tacky places with low value women. It’s confusing for guys because they see a pretty babe and think that’s a high value woman. But most attractive, fashionable girls are dumb af and they’re the ones that get run through the most because they are in their ego. It’s easy to play someone in their ego. Women with truly high self-esteem are hard to manipulate but they’re almost as hard to find now as a truly top 5% man. Kim Trashian is the role model now for average girls but they don’t realize beyond the fame and likes, Kim’s been ran through by the whole music industry. Kanye was an idiot for cuffing her and when he realized it, he left her in the dust. Now she’s 40 and looking at a depressed, lonely future while Kanye is still smashing girls in their 20’s.

My philosophy now is have fun with these materialistic, average women (looks don’t really make her special.) Pump and dump. Never waste time or energy on her—let it fall on your lap.

And then for wife—look at women with PhDs or similar higher education from esteemed institutions. Try to find women that are successful in difficult, high-status fields because they likely don’t have the time for thot behavior. Girls in arts, fashion and media are a big no, no. They are celebrity obsessed and broken.

Girls in STEM and high business are good. But they are so fucking rare and usually cuffed early.