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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5mo ago Stickied
Notice that she says that she's a "leader" but she wants a man who's a leader because she doesn't always want to be the "leader." (Irony quotes deliberate.)
That's not how leadership works AT ALL, and if she knew the first thing about leadership she would know that. I spent a quarter of a century in military uniforms, and another dozen years in the defense industry working with other guys like me.
A ship only has one captain. A plane has one pilot in command. A formation has one commander. Leadership cannot be shared. Consensus is great, but somebody has to have the authority to decide when there's no agreement, and everybody else has to recognize their duty to obey.
It can be no other way.
First of all, the last thing an "Alpha Man" is looking for is a woman to lead him. Even if her mythical shared leadership were possible, note that she reserves the right to lead except when she doesn't want to.
That's very telling. By deciding when the man gets to lead, what she's doing is delegating some decisions to him. That way she can avoid feeling responsible for the outcomes of decisions she didn't make... because he did.
Again, that's not how leadership works. If she leads except for those times when she lets him lead, then she's the leader, and while a leader can delegate authority, you can't delegate responsibility.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
very well put.
her request (for a leader) makes zero sense whatsoever. Her entire pitch is 100% incoherent.
She wants an Alpha, but two issues
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
What I’ve learned from female leaders is that they want to do all the easy stuff, and get all of the good from being a leader, but want to avoid the bad. They want that VP level job because they want to show off their career, delegate tasks according to their “vision”, and signaling how amazing they are on LinkedIn. But they don’t want to do icky things like fire people or get held to account on behalf of their team to their higher level manager.
When the sea is smooth, she’s on the wheel. When they get rough, she’s begging for help.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
The whole concept of 'matchmaker' is a grift.
I surprised that the women can't see this (proves they are retarded and delusional). For the concept to work, the matchmaker would need to have access to an pool of eligible men that want to settle down with the women. Furthermore, that pool of men would need to be equal in number to the women.
Let that sink in.
Because eligible men of about 35 to 55 simply don't go to match makers - for the simple reason: they don't need to.
Do men really go to matchmakers?
By the time a man wants to settle down - lets say 35, any man of any value will be fighting off women with a stick. Why would they need to go to a matchmaker?
The only kind of man I can see going to a match maker would be a guy like George Constanza - short, bald, unemployed...with poor social skills.
And apparently, women don't fall in love with men like that, even if he's 'witty, warm, good with animals, loves children, kind, funny, etc etc etc'.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
I'd like to explore something I touched on earlier only in passing: this woman's place in the marriage market. If she just wants to get her chasms filled, she'll be spoiled for choice. In the land of the land whales, the slender woman is queen. The demand for "V" is greater than the supply, and whatever she names as her price (in terms of money, looks, height, meals, etc.), somebody is probably willing to meet it.
But the marriage market differs from the hook-up scene, and that's where she needs to "win." The currency used in the marriage market consists of those things that make a woman wife-grade. Attributes that don't contribute to that are extraneous at best and detrimental at worst, and she has a truckload of those. Her having a good income is nice, but 1) it's not that important to high-earning men, 2) it derives from her boss-bitch demeanor, and 3) it means that she's unavailable much of the time.
Nothing about that says "Wife-grade woman" except to a laid-back surfer dude who will hang out all day in the lap of luxury and bang surfer girls while she's at work. That's not what she's looking for, obviously.
Given her meager plusses and manifold minuses, her male counterpart in the marriage market is neither especially attractive, wealthy, driven, dominant, or ambitious.
In fact, since she is a female parody of hyper-masculinity, her counterpart is a male parody of hyper-femininity. He's subservient, obsequious, devoid of independent opinions, and childlike. Even men don't like that in a mate... women absolutely hate it. Yet she's the female version of it. Men don't even appreciate other men who are bossy and combative. Not only are those traits irritating, but they signal either deep-seated insecurity or pathological narcissism. What makes her think an assertive man would want those traits in a wife?
So now she's competing against all the women in the marriage market for the very top men in that market. She's nowhere near the top tier among the women, and the matchmaker told her so. This is a classic case of how "what was said" differs from "what was heard." The matchmaker didn't tell her that she was "undeserving of love." She said that she was not the type of woman that the men she wants are looking for, and that she has work to do to become that kind of woman if she aspires to realistically complete for those men.
After spending her life being an ersatz man, she should have realized that men are judged on performance, and are told to work for what they want, and not to expect results until that work is done. She has work left to do: that's all. What she feels that she "deserves" has nothing to do with it. Facts don't care about her feelings, and the fact is that the men she wants don't want her. They want softer women... the ones she derisively calls, "Woo." She doesn't want to be "woo" because that's "beta" for women, and she's an Alpha Babe Boss Bitch Leader, dammit!
Never mind that the "ABBBLs" like her are not desired in the marriage market. The world should be as she wants it to be... a world in which whatever she is is what wins the jackpot in the Man Casino. She put her chips on "Boss Bitch" when she should have put them on "Woo Girl," and lost. She has enough chips to play the nickel slots, but she cant ante up at the no-limit tables where the high rollers play any more.
Pic889 4mo ago
This, again. Good leaders only act confrontational when the other person either doesn't want to learn, tries to avoid work, or is a confrontational twat himself/herself. The kind of person who is shouty and confrontational all the time is not a good leader. And even if they manage to make it big in some toxic workplace, why would anyone want to marry them?
Pic889 4mo ago
Or in other words, a male escort lite, aka someone who has to be paid to tolerate her toxic persona and gets to walk away with a sizeable divorce court settlement from her in case of divorce. But good luck telling this woman that she has to pay men to marry her.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
I had a female friend who once proudly told me that her roommates (all female) had nicknamed her the "Alpha". I didn't have the heart (or the desire to deal with the backlash) to tell her that that for a woman, that's not a compliment...
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
It's so sweet the way she says that the matchmaker should 'lose her licence'.
As if matchmaking was a regulated business, like medicine or dentistry, where there was some licence that could be lost.
I'm constantly reminded that when speaking with women, you have to realise that you are basically speaking with children.
wswZtyqNGQ 4mo ago
No. Children have the potential of learning their lessons at some point. Women don't.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Children are also fun, loving and very loyal. It's fulfilling to devote yourself to the care and development of children.
So yeah.... my analogy falls down in so many places.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
Yeah, I found that funny too. Basically, she's saying "if this matchmaker can't find me happiness, then no one should find happiness" It either doesn't cross her mind that as much as she may dislike this person, she's helped others find matches, or she's such a malignant narcissist that she doesn't care.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
It's not that she doesn't CARE, its that she cannot SEE others.
That is the big difference between a true narcissist and a normal person. You and I are capable of 'not caring' about others feelings, but a true narcissist is incapable of caring / not caring because she cannot see or imagine other peoples feelings at all. You cannot care about that which you cannot see.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
It's interesting how women in a post-feminist era of "independence" and "equality" are even more childlike as they want men as "protectors and providers". Back when phone books existed, the blue pages were full of resources for women to call if they felt threatened in any way. Most USA states have "must arrest" policies for Domestic Violence. If they need men as a "protector", why don't they take him along everywhere they go such as in Saudi Arabia?
And when it comes to money, women with 6 figure salaries require even greater "providers" to pay for their lifestyle of designer bags, McMansions, and $100,000 kitchen remodels. I'm not making that figure up: A golddigger my wife knows just had hers done and her friends were ragging her on it.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Oh, I KNOW you are not making that figure up. Trust me, I know. I have a buddy who finished a new kitchen extension project that 'got a bit out of control' - final bill was £850k. That's GBP, not USD. He let the wife make all the decisions. And to make it worse, she doesn't like the final product. She says its too complicated (too much tech).
You hit on an important point- the more women earn, the more they are going to require a man that makes 'the same or more' than they do. When a woman say 'same or more' they really mean 3x what they earn. The reason for this is that women will always spend more than they earn. Always.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
Another true kitchen story: This Polish part-time housewife is a good friend and actually very sweet, but she moved to a place out in the middle of nowhere for more room, a huge townhouse. After about 2 years there, they moved to another state to get an even bigger home. Each of these transactions cost money. The (American) husband went along each time. They have 40 boxes of stuff in in the garage.
They arrive at the new, bigger McMansion in a suburb and unpack and she gripes the kitchen lighting from the sun as it sets isn't all that good, and a home on the other side of the street would be better. So he agrees to put up another 20 grand or so to move to a new construction across the street simply for the (natural) kitchen lighting. It took 6 months and just as that 6 months was up she told him:
"You know, the kitchen lighting isn't all that bad. I suppose I could have gotten used to it."
Now me, my wife has been bitching about the electric stove in our place ever since we moved in. She LOVES gas cooking but it's tough for me to get that set up because I'd have to pay to have a gas line pulled from the closet and then get rid of a perfectly good electric stove and get the gas stove in. Plus the electric stove isn't all that bad so I put it off for 4 years. I hope she doesn't catch on.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I HATE cooking on gas. Electric is far far better in every way (except running costs, which I am more than content with).
You should tell your wife a whole load of stories about houses blowing up in the night. Or, about how some guy comes back from a business trip and finds his wife gone blue, lying on the sofa.
If you read the small print it says you are supposed to have the gas cookers inspected every year, to make sure the flame guard is still working etc and other safety features. It costs over $200 for an inspection in my neck of the woods. So nobody does that. Most people NEVER have their gas cooker inspected. You can buy a really great electric range cooker (5 rings and two ovens, 90cm wide) for something like $800 and it will last as long as you.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
My wife was bad with money when we first got married because her parents were bad with money while she was growing up, so she didn't learn how to manage it. They were as poor as church mice, so when she married me - a lieutenant on active duty - it felt like all the money in the world to her. Consequently she spent too lavishly.
The way I broke her of that mindset was to make her pay the bills. I was the only one working at the time, so it wasn't even money she had to earn, but in the days before online banking, bills had to be paid by writing checks and mailing them. Having to write out check after check after check was eye-opening for her, especially since our bills were far greater than what she had been making at her job when we met.
Now she's a cheapskate even though we're financially comfortable. I practically have to make her spend money on herself.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
my wife is terrible with money, and for this one single reason - she doesn't understand the simple concept of opportunity cost.
I try explaining it over and over. I say - yes, we do have $10,000 to spend on a new sofa, sure, we do have that sitting in the bank, but then, we won't have $10,000 to spend on something else."
Opportunity cost is the single most important concept that economics ever created. Trying to explain it to women is like trying to teach 4 year olds calculus.
My wife seems to go around in circles. She goes;
"I want a new sofa even though we have 5 perfectly good ones I can't buy a cheap sofa, because that would mean I am not a good person My friend Jackie just bought one for 10k, therefore that is what sofas cost, if you are a good person I want a new car as well, which is 30k And I want to go on holiday, but I can't go to X, because poor people go there, and if I go there, so I need 10k for the holiday But I only have 25k in the bank But I need to do all three things
She sometimes pulls me into these convos, and I like to throw in some curve balls
"have you thought about how we are going to pay for the new roof?
Is it leaking? she asks,
No, but its coming to the end of its life span, a new one will be about 70k
WHAT???!!! she cries
And we really need to get the house painted, its been about 7 years, so that's another 15k, not including the windows
WHAT???!!!!
And those windows man, they're rotting, that's going to be about 40k. for the cheap ones.
WHAT!!!!!???
The solution is to remind them about huge ongoing costs that are non-discretionary. The non-fun spending.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
Spend some time with her watching Dave Ramsey and/or Caleb Hammer and/or Gail Vaz-Oxlade videos. They deal with people who don't understand things like compound interest, budgeting for expenses, financial goal-setting, emergency funds, and opportunity cost.
A lot of them are pretty entertaining, and being in the audience (as opposed to having a personal emotional stake in things like fancy couches, cars, and holidays), it's easy to see how bad money management leads to worse outcomes than responsible financial management. You end up poorer in the long run.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Same here, extremely frugal wife, she's ready for the next great depression. She's always researching things like "how to feed 20 people with a can of tuna". She takes pride in it. We walk to the dump for fun and prizes. She cooks everything from scratch and is learning to make all our clothes.
I think it's the Irish blood, the women are constantly thinking about being in a potato famine or something :) But she does save us a ton of money, so I don't have to work much. I'm thankful.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
Hmmph. That didn't work for mine.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
sit down with her and 'do the spreadsheet'. She'll be amazed at the costs that she can't see.
Don't forget to do the IBNR (incurred but not reported) as they call it in the reinsurance biz. Other businesses have 'accruals', 'capital write downs' or 'allowances for depreciation'.
These are NOT some accounting fudge. The most important lesson to teach your wife is that just because an expense has not yet been presented, does not mean you are not suffering it.
Some examples;
A new roof is 70k. Lasts about 35 years. Therefore it costs 2k every year to keep a roof in servicable condition.
Painting your house costs 15k. Needs to be done every 7.5 years. therefore, costs 2k per year to have a painted house.
If you go through all of those accruals, she'll be shocked. Do it for everything. Like even a TV. Get her out of the idea that capital items are 'expenses'. they are not.
For example, a new TV does not cost 1k. A tv will last about 10 years (its less nowadays than before, because of connectivity redundancy). So the real cost is 100 per year. (I'm using dirty pricing, not accounting for interest costs).
So when she says 'I need a new cooker' you can start her thinking by saying 'Ok, how much does it cost - how long will it last, whats the real cost'
People are far more willing to pay high prices for 'exceptional costs' (cooker, tv, windows) because they believe this is a 'once off' that doesn't need to be included with 'ongoing spending'.
the trick is to convert all 'capital items' into annualised expenses and then add them all up.
Once your wife sees all the annualised expenses, she'll reconsider if she 'needs' a new cooker or just wants one.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
Do You Even Lift, Bro?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
That's a nice problem to have! My wife also has adopted some of my cheapness although she can go crazy in a different way such as "saving" money by buying stuff to get Starbucks points.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Reminds me of a line from the Monty Python movie "How to Irritate People". John Cleese is describing a certain type of woman and he says "They spend a fortune on bargains." Very true, kinda funny.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
they call it 'spaving'.......... spending to save.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Let's take a moment and think about the real victim in all of this:
The matchmaker.
I couldn't imagine having to shove red pills down women's throats daily - and make no mistake, the matchmaker has to do that because her job is outcome-based. The matchmaker can't afford to be delusional and cater to the delusion of these leftover women (and that's another reason the matchmaker has a hard job. These women have already failed in the Least. Competitive. Dating. Market. In. The. World.)
I couldn't imagine having to tell these women, time and time again, that if they want better outcomes they might have to (gasp) put in some fucking effort to be a more attractive option. We joke about it, but the matchmaker lives it daily and has to deal with the backlash of trying to deprogram a lifetime of sexual preference and entitlement. The matchmaker has to have an objective conversation with the most delusional group of people to ever walk the dating market and say "I get that you think you're a beautiful goddess, but what are your results saying? The fact that you are here, right now, should tell you that maybe you aren't that great of a catch and that you need to have realistic expectations."
Shed a tear for the matchmaker, because she is in hell.
Pic889 4mo ago
I sorta feel sorry for her, but then again she is getting paid (and handsomely so).
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
I was just thinking that the best wakeup call would be for her to give this woman a free date with the absolute hottest guy in her portfolio gratis. If she can bag him, more power to her. Then after the date is over, and perhaps if she sleeps with the guy on the first date but doesn't want to see her again, the matchmaker can provide her feedback: "You weren't good enough for the best stallion in my stable what makes you think you'll fare better on the outside?"
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
If you haven't already, you should watch the first season of "Indian Matchmaker" on Netflix. It's hilarious because lots of women watched it without realizing the matchmaker is basically giving out redpill advice on how to be more attractive. After the first season there was a huge uproar among women about how she could say the stuff she said, so she kinda toned it down a little bit for the 2nd season. But they're both good.
But you're right. Matchmakers don't have time to deal with modern women's delusions. If they don't make matches, they don't get paid, so they're very attuned to cutting through the BS and finding out what men and women really want.
Also, in this specific case, one of the reasons why the matchmaker turned a potential client down is because she has to consider the damage to her reputation among her male clients. I mean, the men are also paying her for good matches. Imagine being a man who's paid hundreds / thousands of dollars to find a wife, and she sets you up with this woman. You'd probably drop your account right then and there, and tell all your buddies to never go with this matchmaker because she doesn't have any good women on her site.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I’m reminded of how Kendra G actually went on Kevin Samuels to dispute things he was saying, until she herself started playing matchmaker and witnessing the insanity firsthand.
I have no idea why functional women would want to go into matchmaking for women. The amount of completely deluded psychos must be off the chart.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
I'm almost as mystified as to why they would do it for men. Obviously the men are going to be a lot more realistic because we learn at a young age where we stand, but there are very few women who qualify for a HVM. Being a matchmaker for men must be like searching for needles in haystacks... or running sewage through a screen looking for gemstones. The three simple things that should be the baseline are rare: don't be a slut, don't be a bitch, don't be a whale. HVM expect all that and more... things such as frugality, class, beauty / fitness, willingness to follow his lead, lack of baggage, and intelligence. Where does one find such women who haven't already been scooped up? Any unmarried woman with those attributes would have men lined up around the block vying for her attention.
In short: what could she offer to male clients?
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Basically the hope that her male clients are also blue pilled enough to accept the kind of woman who either requires a matchmaker, or accepts the approach from a matchmaker. I know dudes that originally liked a woman with a “career” because “hey, dual income”. They all go on to learn the hard way that it doesn’t actually result in any financial positive, just more demands for lifestyle increase.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
I made that mistake.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
My friend’s friend (so kind of friend?) had a power couple dynamic. Both of them made a lot of money in corporate America. I think they were at around $500k (maybe more) pre-Bidenflation and COVID. Okay, cool, $160k or so to tax, $120k for a good upper middle class style life in an affluent suburb, stock away $220k in investments and set the kids up with generational wealth. Right?
Nope. They spent like crazy. They even did things like rented out their owned condo so that they could go rent a larger condo, more to wifey’s liking. It’s obviously reasonable to increase your living standard as more money comes, but you don’t need to spend every extra dollar of income.
Eventually, two alphas in the home meant conflict (surprise!). By the time they divorced, they couldn’t even stand to be in the same room as each other.
That’s what you’ll get, as a man, if you start investing your time into an “alpha woman boss babe” who wants a man that can “match her energy”. You’ll be matching energy, all right. It won’t be fun.
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I also made that mistake. “Education” serves only to put hypergamy into overdrive. Never-ending cock measuring contest.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Women are ultimately long attracted, long term, to a man she perceives to “need”. When she has the “strong and independent” career, that means more and more men aren’t a “need” for her.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 5mo ago
She is 39 and still someone decently attractive for her "RIPE" old age.
How badly do you have to fuck up as a woman like that in your 20s to not get a man if you can still look that okay at 39 past your best days?
She's so masculine it's insane. Another case of women just trying to become the men they want instead of the woman men want
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
She is horrific looking. She looks like a man, has those stupid lips, clearly using botox and fillers, and is shining like a beacon in the night because of the amount of 'nude' make up she is wearing. She actually looks a bit like a wax work representation of a tranny. Horrific.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 5mo ago
Compared to most 40 yo women. It's relative. I wouldn't bang her
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
I consider her below average for a 40 year old woman. I've seen 55 year old women that look younger than her. I highly suspect that she is lying about her age.
She is certainly NOT tell us the full story. I suspect the match maker uncovered quite a few other things in their initial consultation, one of them being that she is at least 45.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 5mo ago
You call that attractive?
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 4mo ago
Lmfao i just thought she didn't look as shit as most 40 yos and probably looked decent young in her 20s without needing all the corrective shit at 40s
Did you really flair me lmfao
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4mo ago
Welcome to WAATGM.
Yo @typo-magashiv, keep an eye on this thirsty bastard.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
Hah.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 4mo ago
Lmao typo told me nonmods don't get custom flairs, my sides
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
Not quite what I said.
I said that customized flairs are a pain in the ass, and so aren't going to be doled out as freely as on reddit.
You have made yourself an exception!
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 4mo ago
Lol i wouldn't even fuck that woman if presented w freebie
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4mo ago
You've distinguished yourself with your patheticness. Congrats.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 4mo ago
Lol
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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 5mo ago
Lack of wrinkles, not fat etc. she could have gotten a man when she was half as old. Western women have become so undesirable she would have been fairly competitive at 23
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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 5mo ago
Forest for the trees here
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
she is disgusting looking.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
When women like this are told they're masculine, that's inaccurate. They're "toxic" masculinity at best. She strives to dominate others and evades responsibility. She says she wants a "leader" but that's womanese for a man who gives her what she wants without her having to ask for it or be held accountable. Consider Steve Jobs: He was a visionary but also an asshole and he probably thought his success was because he's an asshole but that is what held him back rather than helped propel him forward.
I had a friend like this: He was a giga-chad. He laid every single decent looking available woman at our community college including some of the staff. He would pick them up by laying into extreme leftist politics and blabbing for a half hour while they stared at him mesmerized and finally he'd take them someone for a bang thinking that the women wanted him for his political viewpoint. In many ways, he reminds me of young women who believe they have such wonderful personalities because the men fed her ego to get into her pants.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
quite right Polish - they are not 'masculine' they are a caricature of masculine.
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
Great perspective on females not actually truly acting masculine. I’m going to remove that from my talking points now.
It’s like the old saying goes: Women want the authority of a man, the privilege of a woman, and the accountability of a child.
SwarmShawarma 5mo ago
Exactly that. My firmware got update after reading good point like that.
@polishknight
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5mo ago
I have frequently noted that people who don't understand masculinity tend to default to machismo: a perversion of masculinity.
Boys raised in rough neighborhoods by ghetto baby-mommas don't become paratroopers... they become gang-bangers. Masculinity versus machismo.
Likewise, when feminism tells women that they can be just like men (only better!), they don't emulate the best men. They emulate the men they're attracted to (they don't notice the rest, anyway... much less admire their masculinity).
So they become whores and ball-busters. The problems that engenders are legion, but one thing they miss is that it's much easier for a woman to run up her n-count than it is for a man, and a woman can get away with being an abrasive a-hole to a degree that men can't, because when men act like a-holes to other men we run the risk of physical violence.
@Vermillion-Rx @polishknight
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
By the same token, feminism and chivalry has degenerated women into whores and ball-busters as you put it combined with thuggish CEO's. Another aspect of machismo bad boys (and girls) is acting low class. If the CEO can wear old jeans and a T-shirt to a company meeting, then that becomes a sort of status-symbol for the nouveau riche. Women buy $3000 handbags and Iphone15s to show how "classy" they are but cover themselves in tats and curse like a wench. Bleah.
I was in Poland and Ukraine a few years back taking rural buses to various places and I felt like I was in the business section of a domestic American flight: People were dressed tastefully, quiet, and the children well mannered. I'm ashamed to say, at times I acted brutishly American and talked too loud and I was quickly admonished. People there didn't want to APPEAR poor by ACTING poorly.
I recently discovered the song "Common People" and loved it. I can't imagine how I missed this song in the 90's.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
but but but.... I thought all masculinity was toxic?
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
The masculinity they're attracted to is toxic. Which is why they don't see the rest of it, and constantly talk only about toxic masculinity.
She doesn't care about the janitor who quietly cleans shit off toilets every day without complaining because it puts food on the table for his kids. That guy's a loser. Not nearly as attractive as some loud-mouthed blowhard picking fights and catcalling women on the sidewalk.
She doesn't care about a soldier that's lost a few limbs but doesn't dwell on the loss and instead focuses on improving his life despite it. Give him a quick "thank you for your service" and move on to the tatted thug with gold teeth and a couple felonies under his belt.
Real, non-toxic masculinity fades into the background. It's the opposite of calling attention to yourself. Which is why women don't see it, and why boys don't learn it unless they have a real man around them.
I really love the saying "patriarchy is just another name for civilization" and feel like masculinity is also another synonym. And women don't notice the people who keep civilization going either, until they perchance get dropped in the middle of Darfur, Sudan and then realize how much those "loser" guys contributed to her well-being.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
Or there is a mass recession and layoffs and they are one of the ones that didn't make the cut and those bills are coming due...
Just don't mistake their newfound "appreciation" for loyalty. Doing so is how we got the modern paradigm where women have reneged on so many social contracts.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Excellent point.
But we don't need to drop them in the Sudan to make the appreciate 'The Patriarchy'. We could run the experiment in California. If all the men just left, to create a 'safe space' for women, the lights would go out after about 24 hours (probably less). Within a few days, there would be no running fresh water. That means no sewage or foul water treatment. Meanwhile, the trash is building up, which means rats are an issue. In week one, we have collapse. The bodies would also be piling up, due to the increased traffic deaths (no stop lights working). And the hospitals can't work in the dark, or without water, so there's that. No aid is coming in either, because the roads are blocked with wrecks and the ports and airports are shut. The phone and internet has 'gone dark'.
4 weeks after our we start our experiment, we'd have full mad max. End of days. Women would be eating their own young or other women's corpses.
Yeh, but at least they would be 'independent'.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
In a manner of speaking, it already is.
There are competing paradigms on labor. Consider how CEO's and corporate executives are rewarded for reducing headcount via layoffs, on the one hand, but quietly hiring supposedly "cheap" laborers on the other. In one office I had gotten a 6 month severance package with full pay, they replaced us with "cheaper" workers who earned 20% less, but it took THREE of them to do my job. Hence the "open office floorplan initiative" that shoved them 20 to a table (I am NOT exaggerating) where 6 cubicles fit before.
A few years ago, Microsoft announced a major layoff of tech workers and then Bill Gates testified in congress he needed more cheap labor H-1b tech workers because there was a tech worker shortage.
So society treats men like garbage and we hear how we're being automated out of our jobs and such but... the elites want to import more people to replace us. Those replacements won't, to their credit I think, buy into this "limited government free market" nonsense but rather simply vote for their identity group interest and who can blame them? How well did this work out for us?
The feminists, free marketeers, and socialists all happily imported replacement men for us evil, patriarchal western male oppressors and now... they'll get the consequences good and hard.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I totally believe you are not exaggerating. I see it with "mine own eyes", as the bard would say. We call it 'battalions of idiots'. We see this all the time - I'm doing some project, and about 18 people come to the meeting, all of them underkilled and essentially useless. What we really would have needed would be 2 or 3 highly skilled people, but they would cost about $200-$350k. Instead, what you get is 18 idiots on $85k.
The sad part is when I say they are useless, it underdescribes the issue - if they just did nothing, that would be ok, we could fix the issues without them. The issue is that they actually 'do things' which destroys the business. They get in each others way, and start destroying every project with ESG and D&I shit, or just do stupid nonsense.
This is what is destroying the corporates - battalions of idiots. They're cheap, but they are doing immense damage.
There is a great phrase - 'Just because you can, doesn't mean you should'.
You CAN hire a project manager at $85k to run a multi million $ project, doesn't mean you should.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
The problem isn't with limited government and free markets. That's the best system ever devised, but there's a catch:
It only works if everyone is on the same team. A few outliers can be managed (indeed, a few good ones drive a lot of progress), but the wholesale replacement of people who embrace what we used to call the "Protestant Work Ethic" with people who are both inept and tribal leads to disaster.
Unfairness aside, the main reason DEI / affirmative action is so bad is that it places people who can't operate at a high level of proficiency in high places, then tells them that "tribal" affinity is the most important thing.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
Oh sweet lord. Direct quote from the story from this aged-out hag:
"Essentially, I spent $350 to meet with this woman to have her tell me I am not worthy of love as I am. But the fact that I need to change in order to be worthy of love and partnership, which honestly, I think for that reason alone, she should have her matchmaking license taken away because we shouldn't be pushing on these narratives that people are not worthy as they are, and essentially telling women that the type of woman they are isn't worthy of love. That is a narrative that should not be given to anyone. It is dangerous commentary and the fact that she said this to my face had some audacity. "
I included the whole block, because you can just FEEL the copium radiating off this bint. How DARE someone tell her that she needs to change! TAKE HER LICENSE AWAY!
My god, what a complete cunt. And to top it off, she acts like a man and wonders why no men want her.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
How fucking dare the person who's job it is to find you a match give professional advice to help you find a match?
This woman is like obese people who get mad at doctors when they say "you have to watch your diet and start exercising."
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
There's a movement to get people to decline being weighed at the doctor's office: https://withinhealth.com/learn/articles/blind-weigh-in
Because apparently seeing the number might trigger bad feelings in you. If you don't get weighed, you can't be obese! And your doctor can't tell you that and give you useless advice like "watch your diet and start exercising". I mean, physical health isn't nearly as important as avoiding anything that might distress me!
(Interestingly, the society that most agrees with this are oppressive regimes like Saudi Arabia. Where you don't tell a woman or child what their diagnosis is, only the man of the family. Because a woman might get distressed hearing she has cancer. Of course that leads to the man making all the decisions, but IMHO that's better than here, where no one is making any decisions because no one is even allowed to gather the necessary information in the first place...)
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I fucking hate fat people
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
I was disappointed when reddit dropped the ban-hammer on FPH, especially given how hypocritical they are about allowing actual hate on approved (and even default) subs.
I followed the link that @ogrilla99 posted, and it was about what I expected. Those people are among the worst kind of science deniers. I find the weasel--words especially galling... things like, "living in large bodies," as if they were casually describing the size of their childhood bedroom rather than facing the fact that they are adults who are literally destroying their own bodies from the inside out.
One of the red pills that got brought up a lot on FPH was that women were far more likely to fall for that "Healthy At Any Size" nonsense for themselves, yet declare that men should look like statues of Greek gods.
"Sorry-not-sorry... I'm 5'2" and weigh 300 pounds and men should accept me for who I am. Also, I prefer men who are tall and muscular, and I can't help what I'm attracted to (tee-hee)."
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
If I had spent my entire life under a cascade of affirmation in which any problems I had were the fault of other people (are average men really "people," anyway?), I might find it jarring to be told that the reason I'm an old spinster is because men don't want me, and there's no way back.
So she's left with the realization that her options are to "settle" for a man she mistakenly feels is unworthy of anything but her contempt or spending the next forty-plus years alone while becoming increasingly invisible.
Unlike a fat person who can diet and exercise, she can't un-live all those years and un-screw all the bad boys... the things that have rendered her ineligible for any but the most unattractive men.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
Which begs the question, what the hell was the therapist doing for 10 years? I mean, if the therapist did her job when the patient was 29, she might have averted this disaster. But now it's on the matchmaker 10 years later to do the hard work.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
Milking a cash cow.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
I brought that up elsewhere. If she wants anyone to lose her license, it should be her therapist rather than the matchmaker.
Ten years of "therapy" and she still hasn't got a single clue about how to achieve her most significant lifetime goal. In fact, when she got the actionable advice she needed, not only did she not recognize its value: she wants the advice-giver to be legally prevented from advising other people.
As I have often said: future historians will look at psychotherapy the same way that we look at phrenology.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Upvoted, but that explanation leaves out the agency and power that she did have in her youth. It wasn't all a one-way street, and in my opinion if she is that bad at selecting a mate, then aging out and being invisible is her reward.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
Fair point. I didn't intend to discount her agency, although I can see how it might appear that way. The female version of the blue pill is that they can successfully pull off the dual-mating strategy and land an AlphaBucks man when they get tired of sleeping around. The trajectory they seek is:
But that almost never works out in real life. Most of them end up being force-fed the purple pill, which is:
A few girls are like my wife and skip the carousel entirely. Their trajectory is:
In any case, women are lied to just as much as we are. The difference is that the male blue pill is:
While the female version is:
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
Large agree with the above analysis with this interesting tidbit to add: TBP is increasingly unpleasant for men. Back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, blue pilled men used to mock RP guys because the paradigm went:
BB -> ILYBINILWY -> divorce+child-support -> CC -> cats & boxed wine
And the BP betas thought they were LUCKY to get on that ride because they at least got sex and a dice roll of staying married and "happy wife happy life" servitude.
Thanks to women going straight to the CC, in some ways the rejected BB, such as me, were lucky to skip the harsh 20 something marriage+divorce paradigm altogether. They did us a favor.
Today, being a BP is a thankless existence but yet there are men engaging in it but this really is all on them. It's like there's a hole in the sidewalk that many have already posted "hole! If you fall in this you die!" and yet there are guys who will deliberately pick up the cones around the hole and walk into it. What further can we do to help them?
On the women's side, the CC and corporate nunnery is alluring. They can even milk the BP guys for freebies while riding it. It's like Disneyland with free heroin samples passed out between the rides.
As we see here, by the time women reach their epiphany mode, it's like the H addict whose lost nearly everything that matters and they double down to feel better.
And all because some naive pundit such as Jordan Peterson says "Well, what's wrong with women's equality? Why not let adults have choices?" Because many people simply can't handle heroin being sold at a cheap price on a street kiosk.
Of course, if the therapist or matchmaker told this gal back when she was 25 the path she was taking, she probably wouldn't have listened back then either.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
Exactly. Red pillers and older women have been telling young women that getting on the CC ends badly, and to what effect?
We red pillers get called names like "misogynist" and "incel" while the older women are dismissed as being bitter, jealous, and out-of-touch.
Only later do some of them figure it out, but by that point it's too late. So they join the chorus of older women trying to warn the younger women, only to be called bitter, jealous, and out-of-touch.
And the cycle continues.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
I don't want to risk breaking rule #1, but will observe that many men don't listen either although that may be due to, until recently, RP wisdom was relatively difficult to come by. We finally see RP terms in the common vernacular perhaps because youthful people find it exciting to learn new terms. (My 7 year old is trying to pick up the jargon of her friends to be cool). As a father, I am strategizing to be "cool" to my daughter and show her neat stuff and keep that wonder going while balancing that with instilling proper discipline, but I always explain why. I don't say "You have to do this because I'm your dad" but rather "You have to do this because Dad protects you and I need your help."
I forget who said it, but someone said "When you live in an insane society, a sane perspective becomes pathogenic." It's difficult to live as a sane person in an insane culture particularly if you're isolated and atomized hence why I sought out a different community. I think this is why Gen-Xers gravitated to Star Trek conventions and learned Klingon in a hope to give their worker-consumer lives meaning while instead of learning Klingon, I learned Polish and instead of dreaming to buy pictures of the Vulcan homeworld at conventions, I instead wanted to see Krakow.
Being cool, rather than faux cool, is something that requires years, even decades, of being "weird" and "geeky". Then all of a sudden, sometimes by magic, we're cool.
That reminds me: I have to stop my wife from throwing out her 90's clothes. I'm sure that stuff will come back in fashion...
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Appreciate the elaboration, every bit helps me refine my working knowledge.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
How much money have the men that she’s dated in her past paid out in order to be told that they aren’t “good enough” for her?
AsianDude 5mo ago
At 38 y.o., she is at the bottom of the bin, and she still thinks that she can snag an "ideal man" by paying $350 + several thousand dollars. Even if she could pay $XX Million, I doubt she could secure the man she really wanted. Men with that much income/wealth, would generally not LTR a 38 y.o. "alpha" woman.
Can you imagine the media criticism if an average man was part of a similar news article on how he could not secure the "ideal woman" by paying $350 + several thousand dollars?
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5mo ago
We don't have to wonder: documentaries have been made, and they are not flattering.
I remember one which followed a group of men who spent significant time and money to "meet" Russian women online, followed by a trip to Russia where they would meet in person, all brokered by an international matchmaking service.
The men were about where this woman is on the MMV totem pole: past their prime and trying to punch well above their weight class based on things that don't matter to the opposite sex.
At least this chick only lost $350. The men lost months of time being internet pen-pals with women who were being paid to string them along, and thousands of dollars in broker's fees and travel expenses.
One particularly sad case was a fat, middle aged guy who thought he had a real connection with one particular woman. When he got there he was set up to meet a completely different one. When he objected loudly enough, he finally got to meet his "soulmate," only to find out that not only was he not going to take her home and marry her, but that she wasn't interested in him at all. IIRC, she barely spoke English, and someone else had been writing on her behalf most of the time.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
Ahem... in the interests of honesty, I'll share that story describes me quite a bit. My wife joined an agency back in 1998 and they put her profile up on match and I was "corresponding" with the translator. I didn't send any money, but I got my future wife's phone number and called her and spoke my "kitchen Polish" on the phone and she was able to grok some of it. They got their commission from me renting an apartment from the agency at a decent price by western standards. We had an interest in each other and she was appreciative of my background and general disposition and it meant both of us were punching in words into a pocket electronic dictionary I had bought to communicate.
Generally, the women weren't like in the west expecting an alpha bucks and more willing to trade looks for stability. It was an interesting time before this was mainstream or well known about so there were dangers, but I think it's worse now after mercenary women got into it. I read that the success rate for K-1 marriages, after initial hurdles (such as homesickness, etc.) was 80 percent which is better than homegrown marriages perhaps because the spouse bonds more with the family unlike in the states where women are "married" to their friend clique.
Heck, perhaps that's the secret to a successful marriage even with a "good" American woman: Unless she's religious and has ties to a moral family support system, move to somewhere else in the states and get a MUTUAL friends and religious support system that ties both of them together.
Funny story: I had this pretty well set up and took the train with a Polish friend to act as translator and guide and the agency guy thought I was connected and set me up with someone showing me tours around the city about different business opportunities. The guy parked his car in the middle of the street and took me into a cafe and my friend laughed and said "This guy is local mafia and thinks you're rich. Just play along so we don't get killed."
My wife fell for me because I had brought frozen Alaskan King crab packed with dry ice in a styrofoam cooler and she's addicted to sea food.
But yes, 90 day fiance (which my wife and I enjoyed) is a reality show drama meant to show these couples in the worst light but that media tends to attract fame whores. That being said when someone tried to shame me with "You had to go halfway around the world to find a pretty woman" I respond: "Yeah, and that's pretty effing cool."
AsianDude 5mo ago
I think that the "alpha babe" in the article had higher expectations. For equivalence, the "fat, middle aged guy" would need to expect a "soulmate" who was also at his income level and willing to risk her hard earned life assets in marriage.
Honestly, men with average incomes from developed countries can find and marry attractive women from less developed countries. At least one of my less well off cousins did that and the marriage is still ongoing with 1 kid.
I don't think women place that much stock in male appearances. Fat & middle aged is still okay, as long as a man has $$$/career to make up for it. However, for women, the reverse is less true (i.e. having $$$/career but not looks/youth).
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
A fat, middle aged woman with a career isn’t getting anyone with options. They get to resign themselves to dating older men, or embracing the masculine role in a relationship
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5mo ago
Is she not saying that "beta" men don't deserve love?
Why, yes... yes, she is.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
What I found delightful is how she claims to want a "leader" but she's a total boss babe. No doubt all alphas are "threatened" and "intimidated" by her.
This woman should be made into a cautionary tale shown to all ambitchous (spelling intentional) young women as to what the future holds for them.
I'm thinking that if she could make a ton of money as a dominatrix on OnlyFriends.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
Kek!
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 5mo ago
Yeah, get a new therapist. One that'll actually challenge you instead of coddling you.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
A therapist that will challenge you? Are you nuts? That's not how therapists pay their mortgage.
MovinCruisin 5mo ago
The therapist is the winner in this story. He's got a great cash cow in her.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5mo ago
Indeed. If a decade of treatment hasn't fixed her... maybe it's time to admit that she's become addicted to guzzling very expensive snake oil.
Ironically, the $350 she spent on the ten-minute meeting with the matchmaker was worth more than the tens of thousands she's spent on psychotherapy in ten years. Naturally she rejected the one useful thing she's ever heard. I think that after ten years of no results she would be clamoring for her therapist to lose her license rather than the one person who correctly diagnosed her problem and gave her actionable advice.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
Great minds think alike. I chuckled when I read that wondering what a basket case this woman was BEFORE she did therapy. Her hypergamous and entitlement mindset means she rejects any advice for meaningful change on her own part since a "leader" is supposed to do all the work for her.
I recently took a Clifton Strengths analysis. Perhaps it's corporate snake oil, but the (likable) management where I work takes it seriously and uses it to help better match direct reports the tasks they may enjoy and says it has helped. One of the tenets of the assessment is that by age 26, your mental makeup is set for life. Young women have their mental pottery set in the pottery oven at their sexual prime reinforced with chivalry and feminism. This woman is 38. I think if her life utterly depended on it, like a zombie apocalypse, she'd be unable to adapt.
No-Stress-Cat 5mo ago
Good read. I was very entertained. Especially in the comments.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
The men that this Type-A ballbuster wants have far better choices than her, and are choosing them. And that's why she is alone.
A woman needing the services of a matchmaker is a red flag in and of itself. A matchmaker rejecting easy money? Black flag for the woman.
Had she humility instead of hubris, she would have taken this as a sign that she needs to do far more work on herself instead of blaming the consumer for not wanting to buy a substandard product.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
considering that the match maker is dealing all day long with entitled, insane, post wall lunatics, this woman must have been industrial grade toxic.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
I keep hearing stories from matchmakers who absolutely hate dealing with late-30’s alpha women. I was contacted by a match maker once, I told her “thanks but no thanks”, because I had a general idea of what her client was looking for. Especially since the reach out was on LinkedIn.
I can only imagine what it’s like to find that top 5% man that actually shows interest, only for the client to reject the dude because he isn’t “good enough”. What’s the point from the MM’s POV?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
Bad enough that the matchmaker turned down a guaranteed repeat customer.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
that's exactly what I was thinking.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
This is a great example of why therapy is useless. The woman has done 10 years of therapy, all wasted.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5mo ago
Like I wrote above: a more introspective person would be clamoring for her therapist to lose her license. Ten years of therapy and she's still so out-of-touch with reality that even a professional matchmaking refuses her money?
She's not even in the bargain bin of the mating market... she's in the dumpster in the back alley under a moldy ham sandwich and a pile of soiled diapers, yet she's demanding the kind of man that has feminine 20-somethings throwing themselves at his feet.
Why hasn't her therapist made her aware of the objective reality of her situation? If fact, why didn't she do that in her very first session when she was 28 and had time to change course?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
Because therapists survive on repeat custom. Her therapist realises that she can keep this hamster going for another 15 years, min. All money in the bank. It's the karen-economy. How else is the therapist going to be able to be able to feed her cat and buy all that wine?
10 to 1 the therapist is a post wall harpie with zero man in her life.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
I briefly dating a girl in college about 35 years ago who was studying psychotherapy. Back then, "game" was a new concept and I tried to run "bad boy" game on her.
And it worked splendidly.
She had some kind of childhood trauma issues (daddy issues?) and perhaps had gone into psychotherapy to try to work through her own issues. One wonders if psychologically damaged people are drawn to psychology for that reason.
MovinCruisin 5mo ago
Back in school, all my classmates who said they want to study psychology were straight nuts. Philosophy also.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
The thing that she is most angry about is this: there is no market for her product.
And there is really no market for masculine women. If men find masculine stuff sexy, we just team up with another guy and do the gay thing. Men apparently can have good loving relationships with each other, without any need of a woman. I have a few friends in that situation.
She is angry because she has done what she wants, which is to become semi-trans, to morph into a 'manly' woman. And now she is furious that there is no market for it.
She should ask herself this: if a man wanted to become very effeminate, to flounce around in make up and lingerie, would women find that sexy? And would the man be entitled to get angry when he is told that women don't find effeminate men sexy?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
Minor quibbles. She is toxic masculinity in that as you point out, men with healthy masculinity can hang out with each other. NOBODY could hang out with this woman, including other women except, perhaps, to trash talk behind each others' backs.
TRP, and particularly game, teaches men how to use skill to improve their situation despite not having assets. There are few "incels": Just guys who are too lazy or timid to get a passport and go somewhere where professionals are legal.
She could put in an effort to change herself slightly, but also to market herself better through hard work and rejection but her ego is too fragile for that. She'd be crushed if she approached an actual alpha and tried to chat him up and land him hence why she wanted to go to a matchmaker and have this happen: "Hello, alpha chad? Yeah, I've got an aging woman ready for you to man up and please her! She's very demanding so you'll need to step up but you should enjoy that!"
A man, even a beta, either has the guts if he really wants something to do the work to get it and even risk rejection or at least take the feedback and set his expectations accordingly. She's in a delusional state and as others point out, therapist who took her money for 10 years probably ought to be glad she's not endorsing them.
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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4mo ago
Removed. Rules 6 and 7.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
a quick browse reveals this woman also has arm tattoos, fake tits and very manly sinewy arms (I just puked in my mouth a bit).
Can't figure out how to post an image, because, as TYPO-megaShit keeps pointing out, I suck at the internet.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 5mo ago
I looked her up, and give her some green makeup and black robes and she's a shoe-in for a specific role:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warner-bros-entertainment/images/6/6f/B3e35b3db4acdff9c153e118fe5d77af--akron-ohio-cleveland-ohio.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170809165937
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
that is good. That is very good.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
This moron admits to being in therapy for over 10 years? WTF? Is that supposed to be a turn-on for men?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
At this rate, she's going to about 300 years old before the therapy has 'worked' and she is ready for an LTR.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 5mo ago
I am going to sticky this since this is hilarious.
ZZoMBiE13 5mo ago
Quote Saint Kevin: Buyeth a dog, dieth alone.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
I think he meant cat. A dog would figure how to run away from this trog.
ZZoMBiE13 5mo ago
I mean, let's be clear here. A cat, a dog, a lizard, they're all going to try and get away. This chick would likely have trouble keeping a fish from running away from her.
Kinda reframes that whole "fish needing a bicycle" phrase the fems like to spread around. This ladies fish would probably try to learn to ride one just to get away from the ballbuster.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Reminds me of this psycho bitch that used to hang out at a place I liked. She had a small dog, like most women do, and she was very proud of showing off how she could get it to 'sit' and it wouldn't move a muscle.
I paid attention, only because the dog was shaking, ever so slightly, every time she ordered it to do something. The kind of tremor where you just KNEW she screamed herself red in the face to 'train' this dog.
The dog wasn't obeying out of joy, or even the simplest pavlovian urge to respond and then get a reward -- no, it was obeying out of abject fear. I hope it either found a way to run the fuck away or it shuffled off the mortal coil to be in dog heaven, because this woman was a demon with tits.
Been a while since I thought about it, funny how memories work.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
maybe the dog was shaking with a barely contained desire to rip her throat out.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
That would be different, but honestly all I saw was fear in its eyes. That's why the moment stuck with me.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 5mo ago
Right off the bat, it is quite a smack to the ego to get rejected by a matchmaker. Not that it wasn't warranted, as we all know exactly how it would go when a woman like this would use a matchmaking service. Any man who would agree to date her would be instantly scorned by such a woman, and she would angrily ask the matchmaker "What am I paying you for anyways?" Clearly the matchmaker saw this woman as the disgruntled customer waiting to demand a refund, and figured it was better to just not even bother.
And yes, most men want a woman who is feminine and demure, not a brow beating harpy that sees herself as a "Type A" woman. This especially applies to the very type of man she says she wants, as he wants a woman that will serve well as his complement, not one that is going to be combative and uptight. Not to mention that at 38, she is not the top choice for any man wanting to start a family, as 38 the age where a woman will at best be able to have maybe 1 child at the last possible moment, where the timetable to get started will have to be rushed very quickly for there to even be a chance for that to be possible.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5mo ago
A few years ago there was an article by a woman who got out of the matchmaking business because her female clients were So. Utterly. Delusional. about their demands.
Women in their 30s with not much going for them were demanding AlphaBucks men they didn't even remotely qualify for.
This woman is thirty-eight years old. She's a spinster... and she's both demanding and combative. Meanwhile she declares that she would destroy any man who's on her MMV level. This isn't just a case of an undesirable woman thinking she has a shot with a man that every woman wants, but she actively cultivates the attributes those men avoid like ebola.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZYXtHAiMoA
There was an article on reddit WAATGM about it too, but I can't find it right now.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 5mo ago
I would rather drink a cup of dog spit than sleep with this woman.