Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
polishknight
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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reignoferror00 11mo ago
"My concerns lately are that I've never been married"
Lately??? You're 42 and are starting to be concerned just now?? A wee bit late to the party aren't we.
and your concerns about marriage seem to be just to have a kid (for whatever unstated reason - possibly all the other "b's" in her hive have done it) and have someone else to be legally required to pay and keep paying for it. Maybe some leave of absence from your job or quit it (note the word "had" in "had a decent career" - has she gone as far up as she's able with the Peter principle or with her personality just barely holding in her job right now) with a real retirement plan (him and his money).
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Is it too late? Shall we tell her boys?
TRPDuryodhana 11mo ago
It won't work. They've gaslighted themselves too hard to avoid reality. I know a 44yo corporate slave MILF like this. Unmarried, born-again religious, thousand-cocks empty stare, and she still thinks she's better then most men.
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NaCl 11mo ago
Culture in dating market means interracial or collecting the flags. Because women want to be like men the want to date, they do what these men like and collecting the flags is one of these things. Mine is and I'm kind of disappointed when the girl is too mixed to be assigned to one country.
nicknack 11mo ago
It’s also a dog whistle for insane leftism.
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 11mo ago
CC: that late 20s girl on the WAATGM chat last week pursuing a doctorate instead of a husband.
winteryknight WAATGM Endorsed 11mo ago
Where is this WAATGM chat?
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 11mo ago
On TRP.RED, the WAATGM tribe.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 11mo ago
Fucker beat me to it!
nicknack 11mo ago
Theoretically speaking if it’s a medical doctorate nothing should stop her from doing both. My aunt and uncle are doctors both married doctors they met in uni.
The only person stopping herself will be herself of course, because he has to be 6’2 + chad with abs doctor student.
NaCl 11mo ago
Leave Britney ALONE!
CC @Typo-MAGAshiv
Justanaverageguy 11mo ago
Anytime a woman humble brags about “intimidating men” it means she was an insufferable cunt and those dudes were too smart to pick a fight with her about her cunty ways, so they noped the fuck out or she did then a gigantic favor by cutting them loose thinking she was better than them. And now here she is, not better than anyone.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 11mo ago
There are so many red flags/buzzwords that explain what happened. For example, she says she "comes across as confident" AND that she "intimidates" [sic] men, meaning that she mistakes "confidence" with "arrogance". After all, how many women are truly as "confident" as men but yet don't need men to "take care of her" somehow via hypergamy, etc?
Same thing with the egg freezing: For the effort and cost of freezing the eggs, if she put in just a fraction of the effort men did to get a relationship when she traveled, she could have found someone easily. She says "a few years in her 30's" she was off the dating market but what about the rest of those years? And her 20's?
It's not "too late" for her, really, if she was capable of drastic change in her fundamental attitude and instead of making higher demands of men for less she brings to the table, she could have a life but she's unwilling to do so.
"It is just that you suffer. Your life could be redeemed, but I know you don't believe that. You will not change." -- Cardinal Lamberto, Godfather III
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Absolutely, especially the egg cryo. If she's that fucking stupid and thinks an extreme procedure to put off having babies is a good idea, she's already too stupid to "get it".
I'm glad she never reproduced, helps out the human race in general.
NaCl 11mo ago
Meaning she would bang someone downstairs while her father was bedridden upstairs? [yeah I know it overstretched]
BTW there is enough blue pilled guys that would help her to care for her father, it sounds like she even didn't bother to look who is there in her orbit because there was no one. All orbiters dispersed knowing that she will require some time commitment and she was only good for a quick fuck. Hence she had to sign out of dating market because no one would give her more than lollipop to lick time.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
When she says something like this you respond with "so you are saying that you haven't had sex in xxxx years????" If she says no she is going to know that you know that she is lying and even more damaging, she thinks that will show she is low value and not attractive enough to have sex in xxxx years. She can’t answer no because she’ll think you’re thinking “What’s wrong with this chick if not a single guy has taken her out or even fucked her in xxxx years?” (Because that’s what she would think if you told her the same thing.)
NaCl 11mo ago
stealing
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 11mo ago
I dated corporate nuns 25 years ago and many of them didn't have sex for a decade despite being otherwise quite attractive. I lost my virginity with a corporate nun who was 10 years older than me who was also a virgin. It was... awkward. (George Carlin has a great line where he says in heaven you get everything back you ever lost, except your virginity since you were in such a hurry to lose it in the first place :-)
Thanks to MeToo, many men don't approach women at work for fear of losing their livelihood, these women have limited social circles and are lousy at flirting. There's a reason why men outnumber women on the dating apps: Because women prefer men to ask them out holistically even as the venues for such approaches have shrunk since the Boomer years.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 11mo ago
I was twenty four years old.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 11mo ago
Yes, she was a virgin and I think pretty good looking. Correction: This was 30 years ago. She was in good physical shape and had a pretty face. I got most of my experience back then with cougars. Keep in mind that they dressed tastefully in a feminine manner, no tattoos or piercings, natural looking hair color, and generally a better disposition towards men. Late 1960's and 1970's era single women were a unique breed: They were "liberated" enough to be good in bed and interesting, but not have all the baggage that modern women do.
Justanaverageguy 11mo ago
All women mistake confidence for arrogance. I don’t know if they’re just too stupid to grab a dictionary and look up the definition of confidence or if women just re-wrote the definition to suit themselves. Either way, confidence to women doesn’t mean the same as what men interpret confidence to be. She seems to be well off if she’s doing all this traveling, freezing her eggs, moving from one expensive city to another, surely she could have hired a dating coach or a therapist to straighten her out. But then she’d have to admit she’s the problem with the way her life turned out and we all know women aren’t going to look in the mirror.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 11mo ago
Oh, my... a 42-year-old inspin asking for estimations of her prospects that aren't mocking or harsh. That's a toughie, because she royaltly screwed up her chances by waiting this long, and the only way to salvage anything going forward for her is to face some very harsh realities.
First of all, nobody gives a crap about her "successes" as a mid-level boss-babe. To the extent that it matters at all, it's probably detrimental, because those women aren't known for being feminine.
She claims to be attractive when she's working out, but that's a disturbing caveat, because it means that she doesn't do it regularly. Fitness isn't something you achieve by joining a gym in January and dropping out by Valentine's Day every year. Kevin Samuel's always asked for dress size... he made them put a number on it rather than the euphemisms women use.
I also don't believe for a moment that she was intimidating men at the gym when she used to go.
Her lack of specificity continued when she said, "For a few years in my 30s..." Her age started with a "3" for an entire decade... during how much of that time was she legitimately unable to date at all? And of course she glosses over the fact that she had previously spent an entire decade in her 20s... when she had much more to offer and was in a much stronger bargaining position. If she had gotten married when she was supposed to, she would have had a husband to help carry the load of an aging parent.
Her interests are fine. At least she's not putting the usual stupid crap we see all the time here. But again... she felt the need to specify that although hiking is one of her main interests, she doesn't do it much. That's probably related to her, "when I work out" comment and her, "I'm not skinny" comment.
An average American woman in her 40s who doesn't prioritize fitness is borderline obese. She's just not in the same league that she was in when she was younger and more fit, and now she has to complete against younger and fitter versions of herself.
She obviously wants to bear her own children, and she hedged her bets by getting some eggs frozen. That checks the "physical" box (although it's still risky and likely to fail), but she blew it on the "demographic" box. The men she can get (50s and up) already have grandchildren: they're not looking to start over with IVF-conceived infants.
Even if she could find a suitable guy who was okay with his mid-40s wife having a test-tube baby... what does that do to her earning potential (which she led off with), and her availability to pursue her hobbies with her husband. (Not to mention what that would do to her body at her age.)
We all know that if marriage and children are lifetime priorities for a woman, she should spend her teens acquiring the traits HVM look for in wives, so she can be married in her early 20s to the best man she'll ever get.
As it is now, top-teir marriage-minded men her age are dating women in their early-to-mid 30s. The men she qualifies for are in their 50s and 60s.
NaCl 11mo ago
IF one learn climbing one will be more adventurous in harness [safety net], if one can divorce and get goods for free because of skewed law [safety net] then why not, if one freezes the eggs [safety net] there is no incentive to exercise caution [learn, improve, change etc], egg freezing is no more than make feel good factor to supress bad feelz when keeping riding carousel in 99.999% of cases.
Fortunately OP is that 0.001% and she will have happy life full of gran-gran-gran children.
There is so many caveats to this shit and I can understand women in general that they don't get it all. Life is fucking complicated enough even for men.
If women just could get one thing right from all this big ones discussed on WAATGM. If they could they would be men and we would be gay. Fuck sounds like an escape room.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 11mo ago
Yep. The devil is always in the details, and those caveats are like the fine print on her Planet
FatnessFitness membership application.If we read between the lines, she implies that she brings three things to the table: money, looks, and an interesting personality.
Money. The money comes from her career, but IVF is ruinously expensive, and if it's successful her earnings will crater. She's a financial sinkhole either way. 0/3.
Looks. Her estimation of her physical attractiveness comes from the time she spent in the gym when she was younger. She even thinks that gym-bros were intimidated by her workouts (highly unlikely: gym-bros love gym-bunnies, so if they were stand-offish then she was probably a bitch). The problem is that she admits that she doesn't work out regularly anymore, and now has an average body for a 42-year-old woman. The average 42-year-old woman in 2023 is clinically obese. She squandered all of her youth and many of her middle-aged years, and if the IVF works it will wreak absolute havoc on whatever is left of her looks. 0/3.
Personality. Her hobbies aren't awful, but they are expensive. My wife and I like to travel, but unless you're willing to "rough it" a little, it's going to cost a lot of money. Needless to say: having a child means that either the travel stops or becomes a lot less fun and a lot more expensive. It's also worth noting that the one interest she listed that requires even a nominal amount of physical fitness is the one she says she doesn't do often. 0/3.
It's good that she realizes that she's at least part of the problem and that she has to offer men something if she wants a husband on the level she feels she deserves, but she didn't think through what all those caveats signify to those men.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Pretty much, but I’d caveat that those men are actually with women in their mid to late 20’s. Pretty much her only options is a low value man her own age, or an older guy who agrees to have one token kid in exchange for doing basically none of the hard work, which would dramatically affect her own career prospects.
lemko1968 11mo ago
At her age, the only qualification she should have for a man is that he’s still alive. She can forget about children unless she wants to be caring for special needs kids until she passes.
nicknack 11mo ago
I’m from the Bay Area, is she seriously implying that the dating scene isn’t that great there? The average guy makes 90 something k and the ratio of men to women is literally 150:100, it’s the best place in the world to date as a woman. Hands down. If she couldn’t find a husband there she won’t ever find one. And it’s 100% on her, inability to choose one guy and probably repulsive personality.
Dudes in the bay line up around mile long around the block to even get a 4/10 fat 35 year old to look at them. Trust me I was one of them. So it’s not her looks, considering she was in the bay.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 11mo ago
TLDR version of her profile:
She's fat, insufferable, nearing menopause, and has her head stuck so far up her ass that she cannot see that the kind of men she wants can pull women 15-20 years younger than her.
And she has an ego made of spun glass on top of all that.
Oddest-One-Here 11mo ago
The only thing intimidating about her are the odds of her starting a family as a woman in her 40s in the 2020s, the proportion of divorced men wanting to remarry is dropping as MGTOW takes off, so that option is drying up and as for single men her age, if they haven't gotten married already by the time they reach their 40s, odds are they are not going to and any man wanting to marry and start a family won't be interested in a woman in her 40s.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
I like to scuba dive and I like putting my dick in old women and am near Seattle. Oh wait, I've been married for 20 years and already have 2 kids... lol. I better go put my dick in my old lady while she's in her proliferative phase of ovulation.
redblow22 11mo ago
Today, Al Pacino, 83, announced he's having a baby with his 29 year old GF.
Granted, he's Al Pacino, but the point being he didn't choose a 40 something with frozen eggs, he chose a 29 year old.
Gals in their 40s who think men looking to make children are taking them seriously are drowning in copium.
NaCl 11mo ago
Hey, this kid is going to be some entertainment industry genius. Imagine to spawn a baby from a body that have already accepted and absorbed DNA of Jagger, Clint and Pacino.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Imagine working your way to a level that “qualifies” for this woman. Only to seek out women just a few years from menopause to start a family.
I’ve done far too much in life for that. There’s something better out there.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Yeah if I'm gonna get a hoe, I want one that's like 30 so she has lots of experience but I can get 10 yrs of decent sex before the pussy dries out.
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 11mo ago
I heard that story on the radio today so followed up a little on it. Pacino didn't choose to have a baby with her, and she didn't even inform him of the pregnancy for months. He demanded a DNA confirmation. The woman inherited oil wealth, and has a history of dating very old men with a lot more wealth than that.
redblow22 11mo ago
Thank you for this. Now, I'm interested.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 11mo ago
So you became an inferior copy of the man you wanted to marry instead of the kind of woman he wanted to marry.
Congratulations. Here's your stupid prize:
Yes.
The rest is just so much waffling and bullshit.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 11mo ago
I don't know why so many women have collectively forgotten how this works, especially since so many girls study business in college. Give the buyer what they want is covered in the first week of Marketing 101.
High MMV men looking for wives want first-rate women... not third-rate men.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 11mo ago
...is it? Given all the companies kneecapping their own sales over the past several years by nagging and woke scolding their own customers I wonder.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 11mo ago
When companies go aggressively woke they're not making business decisions... they're making philosophical statements.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 11mo ago
I wonder what would have happened if you had invested as much time and attention - or better yet, even more - seeking for a good relationship instead of going all in in your career. Sure, one could argue that I'm reading too much and you didn't invest all that much, but freezing your eggs is not something your average worker does. So, how did that work out for you?
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
This trainwreck is exactly why I'll be marrying off my daughter around age 16.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
unless she's fat, lol.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
You think I would let my daughter get fat???
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
I dunno, ever hear of the "freshman fourty"? Dad's not around at the liberal arts college...
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
You think I would let my daughter go to college???
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
LMAO. Finishing school would be a far better investment.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
I can keep this going indefinitely if you keep listing meaningless/expensive things to send my daughter to :)
Best thing for my daughter is to become like her mother - a submissive, feminine, and God-fearing housewife/mother. That's why we homeschool and why I'm vigilant with bad influences in my home.
Worst thing for her is to send her out from my protection and her mother's influence, unless that is to transfer ownership of her to another man I trust (her husband). This is just traditional.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Yeah but you also gotta install anti-feminist defense mechanisms. Once women know the lies and how that undermines women and families they can deflect it with ease. Fortunately my wife is Muslim so she came with all that pre-installed :)