Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago Stickied
An amusing analogy and an interesting twist to a cultural change I experienced in the states back in Y2K. Up to the 1980's, "jumpers" at work were viewed with suspicion: They perhaps only wanted to get settled into a job long enough to develop enough experience to go to another firm for a higher position. Young people at their first professional job were especially likely to do this. Companies wanted employees who were committed and "teamwork" spirit for the long haul. "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?" "Er, NOT HERE!" was NOT the correct answer to that question.
However, with corporate stacked ranking, employees were routinely laid off to keep the other ones who WANTED to stay "on their toes". Instead of punishing jumpers by not hiring them, they MADE their own jumpers and eventually, everyone caught on: You were eventually going to be shown the door whether you wanted to or not. My deeper resume was no longer a Scarlet Letter that it once was because it was so common. They were more interested in why I left rather than how many employers I had but even then couldn't dig much due to legal liability.
The concept of a work ethic and employee loyalty is still pushed by corporate America, but unlike in the past, they don't reward it but rather just exploit it and move on. Consider yourself warned.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago Stickied
Aaron Clarey, aka Captain Capitalism, had an excellent YouTube video along this subject line recently:
https://youtu.be/MCw4HWtVljY
I highly recommend it.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I have to say that I’ve admired him for years. Asshole Consulting was a genius way to basically have people feed him content (and pay him for it) and basically make his demonetization problem redundant. Also was one of the first people I heard who preached anti-corporate and anti-consumerism behavior from the right, and by God did it make a lot of sense.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I'd read his blog off and on for years, but I didn't know he had a YouTube channel until I caught him on one of the Rule Zero videos.
I actually had a similar idea, but that fucker beat me to it! And YEARS ago!
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, true visionary. He saw what a mess millennials were and zoomers were destined to be. Behind all of the content from these kind of social media power users and influencers and content creators, acting like they are crushing it in life with their “alternative” decisions, the reality is most of them are a mess.
Your average millennial now is what, 33? Home ownership rates for millennials are still below 50%. The median net worth of an household head by someone between the age of 26-41 is $41,200. Almost 1 in 5 are under $0. Rising share of kids are being born out of wedlock. How is this “winning”?
And people like this, it’s close to being game over. Good luck advancing into a good paying field if you haven’t done so by 40. Tradesman work and nursing come to mind as stuff you can dive into later, mostly because those are jobs that need people who can hit the ground running (and less so people who are 3-5 year projects that might turn out to be future industry leaders). Good luck getting married, especially as a woman (my girlfriend’s aunt got dumped by her ex-husband, and even though she looks great for her age, the guys willing to date her are mostly significantly older men that are done with the family life themselves; in her case, her current man is 13 years older).
I actually think a big reason why we see so much activism from these generations is because their life is generally without meaning. If they weren’t constantly crusaders for the current thing, then all their life would be, would be waking up, going to work, come home and consume entertainment. That’s not how we were programmed to be as a species. Especially women. It’s no surprise that we are seeing massive, massive spikes in happy pill use for people over the age of 45 (hey, isn’t that the age Jordan Peterson says things start to get really lonely when you’re alone?).
Even someone like Aaron clarey, who sounds like he flies in the face of that advice (apparently he had a vasectomy in his 20’s), he at least seems like he has a solid social network. But imagine being all of these people whose lives carry no meaning outside of social media? Especially the women, because ultimately no one cares about what older women have to say about anything.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Those generations were raised to be rootless and mindless by design. People with something to fight for tend to be hard to control.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
"Especially the women, because ultimately no one cares about what older women have to say about anything."
I can't add to that masterpiece without detracting from it. Just letting it stand on its own.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yup, it’s harsh but true. The reason I know it is because ultimately, genders listen to people of their gender. And how many older women do younger women care about? Compare to men, a man can still command the room when he’s in his 60’s
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I don't think it's "command the room" so much as has something to contribute. I'm reminded of the expression in mob films "Beware of an old man in a profession where men die young." Women who are literally given a living much like the old dumb blonde jokes don't need to be smart to survive and the only reason many of them get respected is because they demand it from their looks much like tyrannical men with power can demand respect.
Tyrannical power, once stripped, leads the person dependent upon it helpless.
I've seen this with some men as well. One day I was riding my bicycle on the sidewalk (carefully) and an old man and his wife were on it and I slowed down and said respectfully, "pardon me sir!" and he yelled at me "get off the sidewalk!" Type-A men who were used to being able to bark at people and then retired must also be frustrated that the world is full of jerks who refuse to abide by their commands..
I told him "You have a nice day!" knowing he wouldn't.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I was just explaining this to my son. Our generation was forced to change jobs in order to move up because Boomers would plant their ass at a job for 60 years. Employers have been so spoiled for choice that they forced the great resignation and quiet quitting right as the Boomers retire. Throw in a crisis in demographics where you have too many old people and not enough young people and you basically get Japan.
Now these employers are forced to take whomever applies or else go out of business. I saw a recent stat that 2/3 of nursing homes are operating at a loss because they have no staff and therefore no clients. My wife was trying to get hired a year ago and they were paying $15/hr and required a bunch of coursework and certs before hiring you and then they wanted experience on top of that. They are now paying $18-$25/hr and take anyone and give them paid training, have them start immediately. It's hilarious.
redblow22 1y ago
My wife and I live in assisted living, in California. Our facility is endlessly understaffed, as the chain is based in Texas, and act as if a Texas wage is fine in California. In N Out pays more than the care staff here make, without the hoops to jump through.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah and part of the problem is that's a job that women gravitate towards and since they're more agreeable the pay sucks. Same with early childhood education, social work, etc.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
You also see the requirement for a college degree starting to go out the window. Employers used to be able to require you to take out monstrous amounts of debt so that you’d essentially be their yes man. Now, instead of requiring a paragraph worth of credentials, more and more simply need someone who can do the job. Maybe soon, companies will gasp train their own employees!
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yup, the financial services industry is all over this right now. They already tried adding benefits to no avail. Then they dropped the degree req. Then they upped the pay. Now they do paid training and start you at $80k/yr.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Hah. I remember when the financial services industry would pay a pittance (that you’d owe back) for training, and most first years would be lucky to cross $50k
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Oh did I mention they all allow remote work now? Some have signing bonuses and the pay can go as high as $500k/yr at some of the larger companies. Those fuckers had the money all along and just screwed GenX over anyway. Now we get to take that money back as all the Boomers retire. "I'm sorry Mr. Boomer, your pension isn't performing as well as it used to because we have to actually pay people to manage it now"
Oddest-One-Here 1y ago
Another reason they might not to hire someone with a college degree for a job that doesn't require accreditation is to avoid hiring a woke activist who will spend more time pushing an agenda instead of working their job.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, my only time working at a legitimate corporation (one that could be counted in the hundreds of employees), I was shocked at how many people were just so emotional. I’m sure a huge portion of these people were the types that needed a day off because trump won the election.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Yes. If you're expected to be a team player, the team has to be stable and loyal to each other. If it is, most people will become team players by themselves. You cannot be disloyal yourself and expect loyalty from others.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The “we are a family” thing goes out the window the first time the company has a big “restructuring”. For career feminists, the realization that their company doesn’t love them usually doesn’t occur until they’ve hit the wall
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
If you ever hear that "family" nonsense, be warned that you're dealing with a bunch of back stabbing bitches. These people don't want to admit how cut throat corporate politics is and do not want you to know. I would rather deal with a guy who is honest and matter of fact than you deal with a guy who is trying to lull into false comfort.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, it’s pure cringe to see people posting all sorts of affirmations and left wing garbage and warm and fuzziness all over LinkedIn, knowing how these people are behind closed doors. They’re complete frauds.
I remember at a prior job, I was hired on to build up the company data science capacity. At the same time, another guy was hired by someone who didn’t like my boss. As it turned out, the other new guy’s role, unbeknownst to him, was to try and undermine my boss and his team at every possible chance. Essentially serve as a competing team so that this guy’s boss could essentially take ownership of the data science function in the company. Plan fell apart once the new hire realized he was serving as a political pawn, now he and the boss of mine are friends.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I heard it this way from a director: He said it's, and I quote, "just like baseball!" Well, in baseball if your team wins, even if you're the bottom player, you get a share of the prize money. In the NFL, a really cool ring. And in both cases, a grab at the groupies hanging out to sleep with you In corporate America, there's no groupies who find 60 hour/week burned out office workers "hot". As the protagonist in Office Space put it: "Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime, so where's the motivation?" OK, you might get a few grand bonus but the (smart) and older worker asks himself: Is it worth burning myself out for a whole year just for a few more car payments? That's why these places want the kids fresh out of school and indoctrinated to "work hard and succeed". They eat those poor kids for lunch. I met a guy at a redpill mixer who said that college graduate girls in DC were fodder for NGOs who worked them 60 hours a week for a decade and then the women burned out in their late 20's/early 30's and left and they'd replace her with a fresh body.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
In more ways than one. Expect any woman that submitted herself to the political machine to have been very well used. Every port she has will have weathered a storm.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, you have to remember that these kids, in their left wing echo chamber college campuses, are taught that status is what matters in this world. They’ll bend over backwards to preserve their status, and do it even more so if you dangle the opportunity for more status in front of them.
I’m friends with my boss and we have open discussions on crap like this. He’s apparently way less diabolical than I am. He’d actually rather hire a 30-something or 40-something that will stand up for themselves than a 20-something that he can simply abuse and manipulate. Even if he can get way more than 2x the output for the same price with 2 junior engineers over 1 senior engineer, he’s not going to do that.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Yep. That's the game. You'll be an idiot to play that game. My rule, that I learned the hard way, is that you stay until you are learning. When you are not and things become routine, it's time to leave.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Or at the very least, you quiet quit and only do the bare minimum. The only reward for hard work is more work, not a better work/pay ratio.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
There are scenarios where more responsibility is useful. If you're learning new tech, then it will be useful when you switch jobs. But, if it's more of the same, then it's time to quit.
redblow22 1y ago
Retired Teamster here. We called it "work to rule" I was in the newspaper business, and as our industry catered, our pay dropped, as did our go get em. When we lost a week of vacation, our sick leave use spiked. Can't imagine why.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Another term is "Italian Strike".
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Hello Polish Knight. What's happening?
I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in to work tomorrow. So if you could be here around 9, that would be greeeeat. Thanks!
Oh, almost forgot. I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. We lost some people this week and need to sort of play catchup. Greeeeat.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
That movie had wonderful insights which, ironically management took all the wrong lessons from particularly the scene where Peter pushes down his cubicle wall to see his window. Note that he still had walls with his colleagues but he could see the outside. The "open office floor plan" revolution had begun where management thought they were "doing good" by making "collaborative spaces" where employees would be shoved together at tables (and less space per person) and as a bonus, could be watched and further monitored to remind them of their status.
One guy who was (amazingly) putting on a tech similar about what he did at a major credit card firm bragged about how his "agile workplace" allowed him to pick on a female employee who "looked at her phone too much." The managers I talked to loved it because THEY could watch what everyone under them did and then go to their office and close their door.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I worked at a place like that. It was too noisy to concentrate.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Open office floor plans kind of look like sweatshops. It’s often lines of employees pounding away at their keyboards.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Not only that, but management has to be loyal to the worker bees. I remember when the expectation started shifting from lifetime employment toward serial employment. Corporate management caught on before the worker bees did, so for a time companies got away with treating people as disposable commodities while expecting loyalty up the chain. Loyalty to the company was a lagging indicator of the change.
Eventually the worker bees caught onto the new rules and started treating their jobs as something they did rather than something they had. The idea that an employee should "take one for the team" faded away once employees realized that once the company had received the benefit of his sacrifice, he was no longer useful... and that meant the chopping block.
In my industry everyone understands how it works, and while everyone expects professionalism, nobody expects loyalty either up or down. We come together to perform some task, then go our separate ways. At the end of the day we're all just cogs in the machine, and that includes the companies we work for. Only idiots and newbies take it personally. Unless you leave under bad terms or burn your bridges, the company that terminates your employment this year will gladly hire you next year if the new contract requires your skillset.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Yes. Your team and the company's management are separate entities. If your manager is good but the management is shit, you're going to get fucked. Be loyal to upstanding people in your team and befriend them because that is a contact that could last a long time and will be beneficial, but anyone up the ladder is never a friend.
Your skills are only as good as how much you're needed.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
True. We got that concept driven home hard the last time our contract flipped. The guys who work for the primary company kept the same pay, but they cut costs by slashing the pay of those of us who work for the subcontractors and slashing the perqs from the guys who kept the same pay.
I work for one of the subs. A lot of guys quit, but a lot of us stayed because 1) we love what we do, 2) we don't work very hard, 3) they didn't screw with our perqs, and 4) we're all military retirees with fat pensions and we don't need the money. But there are limits even then. A lot of positions are unfilled because they can't draw new talent at the current pay scale, so those of us left have to pull double duty. (That's not as bad as it sounds: I actually prefer to work with smaller teams - otherwise we tend to get in each other's way.) The problem is that although everyone can sort-of do everyone else's job, going in shorthanded means that if we need some deep expertise, the guy who has it might be on a different mission.
And even that's tolerable as long as they don't screw with us. The .mistake that the upper management bean counters is making is that they're starting to nickel-and-dime us over ilttle things. The understanding has always been that we do whatever has to be done (and even make the paperwork look pretty), and they don't scrutinize us as long as we can offer some plausible-sounding rationale for whatever we did. Now, they're starting to look at ways to recoup those nickels and dimes, while still expecting us to "make it happen no matter what."
Of the four items I listed earlier, they're actively undermining numbers 2 and 3., which has the effect of undermining number 1 (if ithey suck all the fun out if it were not going to keep doing it). Consequently, I'm edging clsoer to the door. i'm not willing to be expected to perform like a self-starting field-grade officer while also being micromanaged like an E3. Frankly, if it wasn't for the really sweet perqs amd the fact that I don't work very hard I probably would have left already - the pay sucks for the level of education and experience required to do what I do. The day they decide the perqs are too costly is the day I put in my notice... "Don't need the money" cuts both ways.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I keep seeing jobs like this go unfilled. You can immediately spot them because they have a long list of requirements that no reasonable person could meet. And the pay is shit too. These companies will have to either go out of business or treat people right. There is no longer an endless supply of workers all competing for jobs.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Unfortunately that is very common. Corporate ladder is steep to climb and the fuckups by people at the top are recouped by fucking the people at the bottom. You know as well as I do that this nickel and dime bullshit happens because someone was not able to manage their budget properly. You think they'll rethink how they spent their money? No. They tend to cut back on the little things and try to lay off people they think are redundant.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I work in a skilled trade, and this actually hits really close to home on my most recent previous jobsite.
Fucking morons.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
They are not morons.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
The ones at my most recent previous jobsite certainly are. I don't want to go into too much detail (doxxing possibilities), but they displayed some stunning incompetence.
ScribhneoirIldanach Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Gaelige-Béarla Translations:
Gondola_the_Observer 1y ago
change jobs frequently = suspicious
change appartments frequently = suspicious
change mobil number frequently = suspicious
change partners frequently = totally not suspicious??