Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
moorekom
Posted 2y ago in Dual-Mating Strategy - Permalink - Locked - 4.1K Views
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago Stickied
Update 1: https://i.ibb.co/ryJJxhS/Update-1.jpg
Update 2: https://i.ibb.co/Sm5v11W/Update-2.jpg
While some of us might be quick to call this girl manipulative, I want to bring everyone's attention to something: In my eyes, this story is not about how a girl fucked over a guy. This is a story of how a girl lost out on a good man and a good life because she was lied to for a long time. Women are fed the mercenary bullshit that until there is commitment, such as marriage or moving in together, they do not have to commit to the guys themselves and can afford to be unfaithful. As it is clearly evident from this story, such mercenary behavior has a cost. Oftentimes, it is a severe one. This woman was so soaked in this mercenary wisdom she lost out on a happy life.
On another note, before anyone calls the guy an idiot, I want to point out that he is still blue pill and this is exactly what I would expect of him. He is trying to be fair and gentlemanly yet fails to understand that she is not a lady and current norms do not reward a gentleman. He is going to get fucked more before he comes to that painful realization. The very fact that he took the blame on himself and gave this woman an emotional conclusion stands testimony to that. While it is disappointing to read about him bending like grass to appease her ego and to even consider that the friend did this out of jealousy (that is a great example of bitch politics at work), I want to remind everyone of our Rule 1 (No shaming men for any reason) and would advice everyone to keep the focus on where it belongs: the woman and how she fucked up.
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Linking this comment where it was explained why these hoes act all innocent when trying to lock a guy down.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 2y ago
Reading that second part. I believe her crying was not acting, that she was indeed genuinely distraught. But not because she was remorseful for her actions, but rather that she had a realization that her deception was discovered by OP and that she was going to lose his commitment. It is a term I know as "Sorry I was caught," which is not the same thing as being genuinely sorry. Had he never discovered these things, she would have kept it secret until her death.
Even if he is still blue pilled, he thankfully made the correct decision to end the relationship, as he was clearly getting a terrible deal. She can claim all she wants about how much she loves him, but she knows full well that she was not giving him the best of herself, as she was withholding in ways that she was not with other guys who provided no commitment. That alone is a deal breaker.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Yep. A woman who desires you and considers you to be the love of her life will be ride or die. She will not put up barriers to your satisfaction.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
Was this the one that the cringetopia mod sent us a while back?
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Yes. It is.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Women do not think that they are rotten goods. It is far simpler. Women want a man better than them. No woman truly wants a man who will chase after her. They want to chase a better man and to be accepted by him.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 2y ago
I have had an idea for a long post which is related to this subject. I can give a short version here. Men like OP are the ones that lose out in being the "good man" that they have been told is the proper strategy to succeed in the dating market. However, this does not result in success for these so many of these men, unless you want to define "success" as having a commitment with a woman who has spent her prime years having casual sex with men who never wanted a commitment with them while they avoid the very type of man who does want a long term relationship. Along with that, the woman will be deceptive with how she portrays herself in order to sell herself as "not that kind of girl."
Whether or not the man knows about the past of such a woman, he most likely would prefer to have a woman far less "experienced" and would have preferred to have a commitment with such a woman when both he and the woman were younger. Whether or not these women understand or care about how these commitment minded men feel, they understand that not being the type of woman he actually wants puts her chances of having his commitment in jeopardy. So they often lie about their past or avoid the subject while implying that they are one of the "good girls."
This woman knows full well that her behavior is unacceptable, thus why she had the reaction (see: @moorekom 's sticky for additional parts of the story) when he confronted her about her actions. I believe that she was not acting when she was crying. But the tears were not out of remorse, but rather that she was feeling the dread of losing out on a man she wanted to lock down for marriage. This "sorry I was caught" is of course not really being sorry, so it should certainly not be treated as such. Fortunately, the OP made the correct choice to end things. He may not be fully red pilled just yet, but he has the chance to understand things far better than he did before.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
When you finish the post, please redirect it to WATGMA here. You can cross post to WAATGM and WATGMA in Reddit, but make sure to lock all comments there.
meerita Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Women are masters of deception. They will change their appearance. They will lie. They will manipulate. Just seeing the "Update 1" post made me puke. Manipulation Textbook example.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Self delusion is a powerful tool in manipulation.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Where are my manners? Obligatory tag: @redpillschool.
redpillschool Everybody tag him 2y ago
I gave you your damn comment stickies. Don't tag what you cannot untag, lest the tagger become the tagged.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Is that resentment I sense there? What happens when I reply to you and tag you? Is there a dual notification or would it be just one?
redpillschool Everybody tag him 2y ago
I think it's one notification @moorekom but let me know
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
On a serious note, you should read this mess when you get the time. This is one for the annals of TRP.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Yep. Just one @redpillschool. What a bummer.
redpillschool Everybody tag him 2y ago
Looks like my team knew you'd try to abuse the feature and planned to keep it to one tag per comment
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Damn that pesky efficiency-oriented team. They are no fun.
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 2y ago
This is a great find.
Usually I could go on for paragraphs regarding the level of shit in this one buy he has laid it out so clearly that there is no need.
If lonelinessinc was here then he would say that Men don't Redpill men, WOMEN REDPILL MEN . This is a perfect example of that. Once the veil of their lies are pulled back the shit comes out like a broken sewer main.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
But he is not redpilled. He chose to double down. This shit will serve to redpill other men though.
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 2y ago
Must have missed that in my first read of that 75,000 word 3 part post.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
These things really do need word counts at the beginning.
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 2y ago
I forgot to tag @redpillschool
Hey @redpillschool you may want to read this shit.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
I'm getting the feeling he is getting pissed.
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 2y ago
Yeah ok we will stop
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
@typo-magashiv.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
what
redpillschool Everybody tag him 2y ago
I could always take the sticky comments back
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Why would you say some shit like that to crazy people? Do you want to go back to being bothered for sticky comments?
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 2y ago
Once you deliver the sticky it's hard to take it back.
Sauce: given many girls stickies
redpillschool Everybody tag him 2y ago
And that's why you always use protection...
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 2y ago
Never worried about getting her eyes pregnant but who knows it's a brave new world
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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
It’s so bizarre that women behave like Chad these days. Like this is Chad-ish behavior, hookups and FWBs and ONS until you run into some pure as snow girl who you see as wife material, and then suddenly she gets treated with the utmost kindness.
These women are practically behaving the same way. Relentless hookups with “f boys” until they meet a kindhearted kind of guy like this, suddenly she’s a prude and doesn’t want things to revolve around sex.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Did you think that they would come up with their own playbook?
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Nah. It’s just wild. Like I’m actually leaning on the side of believing that she loved this guy, the type of crying he’s describing isn’t Taylor Lorenz on MSNBC style crocodile tears. Which makes me think she legitimately has this Disney/hallmark fantasy of what love is. Having no idea that the ultimate way to express love to a man is fundamentally different than how a man expresses love to a woman.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Yeah, I don't think that she was acting either. But, as I mentioned, such behavior has unintended consequences. For her, it meant that she missed out on a good guy. For him, it might end up making him not a good guy in the end.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
For sure. He definitely isn’t red pill yet, but he gets the unfair treatment of how tinder dudes got to smash routinely, while he had a guilt trip simply because he went for a kiss after 2 MONTHS. He knows that doesn’t make sense, because he wanted sex. If women wonder where the nice guys went, well, this is where. When there’s no incentive to niceness, men will cease being nice.
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Axlerod9999 2y ago
Welcome to real world. Chicks are liars. Let her say anything she wants, watch what she does.
My ex would tell me i was the only one she ever wanted to marry and she could not see me with someone else. I wonder why then she was breaking up with me. Why couldn't she move past any of the shit she says i did. It wasn't really something throwing a potential life away. (I was so distressed that i even said she would regret it later, lol, such a beta thing to say. She replied she knew) So she was still trying to manipulate me into being single and distressed while she would try to move on.
You know what i did? The very next day i let my RP nature completely take over me like Venom takes over Spiderman.
I went out and slept with 3 women within the very next month. I drilled into my head that she was Gaslighting me and manipulating me. That i lost frame somewhere along the line and was being punished for it.
I had the kinkiest sex with these women. I did all acts that i did with my ex. Which made me believe that there are other women in the world who would happy swallow if i am maintaining frame and behaving like an alpha. 6 months down the line i broke up with everyone (3) and went monk mode.
The moral is let her drone but watch her actions. If she's bullshiting you but actions aren't matching words you need to get someone who's actions do. You need to fuck another without any guilt and let your dark side take over. Call her a liar in your head and banish all thoughts
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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 2y ago
From Update #1: "[...] she was so in love with me that she didn't want to mess it up with sex [...]". That was an interesting story as a whole, but this quote really stood out to me. I believe there was something to the likes of that on my last post, and I'm sure I've read some dumb justifications like those in stories as such.
It all boils down to how an average person sees sex X how a hoe sees sex. An average person likes it, and sees it as some form of intimacy. A hoe has banged her head so many times against the bed's headboard that she completely detached sex from intimacy - it's now something evil, some nasty way to get validation. She knows deep inside that she's a hoe and that she shouldn't be, so anything related to this lifestyle is dirty and bad. That's why having quality sex is reserved only for those who can give her the validation her hoe soul needs; Billy the Beta can only offer love and partnership - and who wants that?
And those questions posed by the friend? The guy knew his friend was blue-pilled, and offered him just enough so he would end the relationship with the hoe. That's a solid friend.
Cmj1345 2y ago
Agree, that’s all the other guy can do. You have to come to some of these realizations on your own.
And you hit the nail on the head, she knows she is a hoe and knows it is shameful behavior. They are all like this though, that’s why they put on a mask when they meet a “relationship material” guy. They all know deep down that no man with any amount of self respect would tolerate that behavior.
I know a girl from college with a triple digit body count who no one would give a relationship to. Meets a guy who is 15 years older than her and puts on quite the show, he thinks he hit the jackpot. She even got tattoos and piercings removed in an attempt to rebrand. This man plans on marrying her and she will NEVER tell him anything about the past, all he knows is her “LTRs” didn’t work out. I’m curious to watch from a distance how it develops because they are going to have a very similar situation, he will definitely bump into someone “she knows” from the past, it’s a big city but not that big.
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DextroShade 2y ago
Let this be a lesson to women: if you want a good man to reward you with commitment you have to go above and beyond what you did for the guys who wouldn't commit. Rollo's "Saving the Best" essay comes to mind.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Exactly. If there is no desire, walk away.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 2y ago
The whole thing reads like beta porn. It's just such textbook AF/BB that it's hard to believe it's genuine. It's a rehash of "my prude wife was a whore in college", updated for modern times.
This shit absolutely does happen, but this post seems a bit too textbook.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Maybe. Maybe not. It has just as much chance of being genuine as it does of being fake.
aldabruzzo No busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 2y ago
I've read all three posts by the anonymous OP.
I respectfully disagree with the suggestion by some that this woman was genuinely in love with this man. She was not.
This woman loved the lifestyle she had with the man. She loved him but was not "in love" with him. She cared not for him, but for the benefits the relationship gave her.
This is why our OP should have walked away the very first time she rebuffed a sexual advance. This is why he should have noped out the moment she started putting all sorts of conditions on sex. Always, always, ALWAYS lead with sex. Walk away if she does not immediately respond as you want.
Some will respond with "so women can't have any boundaries or standards?" and "so you want women to turn themselves into sluts and playthings so your egos won't be bruised" and "so you complain that women need to sleep with you right away but then complain about not wanting to commit to sluts". Yeah, whatever. I don't care. That's women's problem. Let them worry about threading that needle and balancing that scale. I care about men. I care about men getting what they want and need. I care about men not investing years of their lives on women who make them wait while cheating with men who tingle them. I care about men not wasting time or money on liars, cheats, and whores.
This woman was not crying over the demise of her relationship. She wept because she had been found out and her tears were a defense mechanism. A long ago evolved strategy women developed to keep pissed off angry men from throwing them out into the streets. She didn't weep because she lost a man or her relationship with him. She wept because she would lose the status and benefits of that relationship and the hit her social status and lifestyle would take.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Yes, if there is no desire, then find someone who does desire you or start working on yourself until someone else desires you.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
This is a common tactic used to complicate the matter. It is very simple. If there is desire, there should be no negotiating desire. If a girl likes a guy, she makes herself available to him. If she puts up obstacles, then guy is not interested in her anymore. He moves on to another girl who does not play these silly games. If there is no desire and enthusiastic participation, men should not be interested.
aldabruzzo No busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 2y ago
I'm just replying to women the same as they reply to us. "what, so men can't have anything?" "So men's desire for sex is an irrelevant afterthought for you?" "So what men want from their relationships isn't important ?" Women's response is always "I don't care. That's men's problem. Men aren't entitled to sex."
Fine. "I don't care. Women's desire for relationships with attractive men is women's problem. Women aren't entitled to relationships."
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Read Rule 1.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
@typo-magashiv.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
I still haven't read the entire thing yet :(
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
You should. Yes, it's a familiar tale but it is worth a read in its entirety.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
Finally read the whole thing, all three parts.
Yet another example of how so many women just operate in deceit and manipulation.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
As I mentioned in the stickied comments, they are taught this mercenary bullshit and think that they will not have any issues because of it. Many do not enforce consequences to their actions and it grows to unsustainable and dangerous levels.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 2y ago
Do you want to know how he could have seen this from the beginning?
Because she asked him out EXPLICITLY!
God made men and women as opposites to each other. One of the ways this plays out is that men are active and women are passive. Men pursue and women are pursued.
When a woman pursues, she's a slut!
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
I would not agree completely. Women do pursue, but they pursue guys above their league. Personally I hate to jump through hoops for any woman on any level. It is off-putting and it breeds contempt in me.
In this scenario, it is clear that she did consider him better in some regards, but the way she chose to present herself came to bite her in the ass completely. If you are not fine with what you are, that disconnect will show and will bring problems.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Read Rule 1 in the sidebar.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
Only one infraction so far. I'm impressed.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
There might be more. We're just setting shop after all.
Cmj1345 2y ago
Notice how she didn’t even take the time to clean up her outlook calendar to hide evidence? I always say they keep their deepest, darkest secrets on that phone. You should audit that thing by month 3 if you want something serious, this guy waited way too long.
Also notice how she was able to wear a mask for this long. Poor bastard was still questioning his decision even after he found all the evidence based on how good of a front she was putting on. I have seen that really skilled manipulators can wear the mask for about 18-24 months but the facade always cracks, you just have to be observant enough to realize it.
Last point I always emphasize, she never talked about this with him etc. because deep down, no matter how many hoops they jump through to justify it, what they say online behind an anonymous username, they know their behavior is shameful and any self respecting man would not tolerate it. Make sure to always be upfront and yourself from day one, people always find out who you really are eventually, can only keep up a lie for so long.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
And if she manages to keep her phone always hidden from you for that long you also have all the answers you need. A non-hoe doesn't need to hide her past behind an iron curtain.