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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 23h ago Stickied
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7FaWnlhS4&t=10s
You may recognize her from yesterday: https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/325773/and_that_s_my_why/7876490/
This is part 1 out of 5 (or more!) of a series of women lamenting about the death of chivalry. I'll post these regularly each weekend until my backlog empties noting I have 5 already in the backlog and the algorithms appear to be adding them regularly so... who knows?
throwaway_old_guy 22h ago
First, it was your choice in footwear. None of the Men were involved in that decision, and if any of them had been and suggested you forgo "cute" heels over something better suited to walking, there would have been another video on that.
You were offered a ride, it just meant one of you had to sit next to a Man, maybe even (eww) touching.
Instead, it's all about MEN not wanting to inconvenience themselves to your benefit.
Equality is not about convenience based on Gender.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 22h ago
Yes.
1) it was primarily a code of conduct for when knights fought other knights and nobility. Knighthood was rendered obsolete, and so was anything to do with it.
2) the way you and other whiny harridans use it, as in "men treat women like they're special and have special privileges" is also dead. Feminism killed it. We're equals now. Enjoy being treated as just as disposable as we are. It's just a shame you still don't have to register with the Selective Service.
Your poor choices are no one else's problem. Wear comfortable shoes when you know you're going to be walking.
Additionally, it sounds like several golf carts made several rounds. I'm sure another one would have been along in a few minutes. Those men were ahead of you in line, and they owe you nothing. Equality, remember?
Then why the fuck are you whining and complaining?! Shut the fuck up!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 21h ago
Note how this ties into yesterday's post: She says she's alone at 31, a leftover, because she's "overqualified" to EVERY man she's ever met.
Roll that around in your mind for a moment.
EVERY man. Even her father. Every man is BENEATH Her Highness. We're ALL peasants to her.
I'm reminded of the scene in Monty Python's Holy Grail where we know He's the kind because he isn't covered in shit. She thinks she's The Queen and the peasants should throw their coats on the mud for her to walk on and yet, the men aren't. There are men out there with self-esteem and Princess had to wait a few minutes for the next shuttle or hurt her feet in the heels she chose to wear.
Like the king in Monty Python angry that his kingship isn't recognized, she is increasingly the princess sleeping on beds with more and more peas underneath.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 20h ago
Peas that she put there at that. Like, bitch needs to realize men aren't obligated to make her life convenient by default as is, and if she goes out of her way to make herself miserable, that's her problem alone.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 36m ago
She/they could have waited until some bears arrived. I am sure they would have given them a lift.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 22h ago
So she wanted men to offer just for the sake of a pointless interaction she'd reject anyway...? Either she's bullshitting and only said that to try and not look so entitled, or her definition of chivalry is just performative nonsense where the actual chivalrous gesture is not wanted, only pampering her ego is.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 21h ago
Chivalry began to die when feminism began to preach gender equality.
There are still a few fedora-wearing neckbeards out there willing to prostrate themselves before women while wheezing "Yes, m'lady."
But they're an endangered species.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 35m ago
The men you are referring to are called Simps.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3m ago
Let's keep rule 1 in mind. You're tiptoing close to a violation.
Leonian 20h ago
I don't remember the last time I met a young woman who deserved to be treated like a lady
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 18h ago
If you have the time, it's actually a readable Nobel prize winning novel: "With Fire and Sword" by Henryk Sienkiewicz that explores chivalry and feudalism during the Polish-Ukrainian war of 1612. The film is pretty good as well!
The thing is, just as women today are snobs towards height, men of the past regarded ladies primarily by whether their fathers had huge tracts of land to give away as a dowry. You held their doors and sang love songs to them not to get laid (because premarital sex was a no no) but rather to win her heart and hopefully get her to cry to her father enough so you could live in comfort for the rest of your life with her family's serfs working the land for you.
That's right! You didn't go to work daily so she could sit at home and order bon-bons by mail order while banging the milk-man or postman. You sat around, like a Gentle-Man, and had your nails manicured. That was what a Gentle-Man's life was like!
And somehow it was romanticized during this period to mean being "noble" of selfless virtue like we have with comic book heroes today such as Peter Parker or Clark Kent who lived like monks and paupers fighting crime and doing the police's job for the fun of it.
Back in the 1990's a friend of mine asked me: "Don't you want to be a boy scout?" I said, er, no.
Leonian 10h ago
That's quite interesting
So what do you think changed during that time that made society worship women?
I think makeup played a huge role
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4h ago
Perhaps the printing press? Around the time chivalry evolved from a mere code of conduct to more ethically conduct war to a mass produced culture of "courting" "ladies", it had to actually be communicated.
My point being that originally, this was about romanticizing feudalism: The knightly class offered one of the few ways for a commoner to ever hope to escape literally not owning a bucket to piss in. Via merit killing-for-hire and then landing a pretty princess, the grateful king or lord would gift one with lands.
It was like buying a lottery ticket, becoming a pro-athlete, or becoming a rap star.
What's hilarious is how this evolved from something that appealed to men into pandering to women, all women, as entitled. Did knights want to risk getting an arrow in the face to work long hours to wife up a commoner serving wench? Back then, even peasants had serving wenches!
I suppose the romanticization of the princess sitting in the castle waiting to be rescued appealed to women universally. "Learned helplessness" is the psychological term, my understanding. The concept that simply being female, young, and pretty would be a "noble virtue" itself.
Hmmm, this gets me to thinking how interesting it is how these women now gripe about "men wanting to be treated like women" and by "men", they mean Chad: If a man is tall and handsome, through no effort of his own other than genetics and not abusing his own body, then he can increasingly demand "princess" treatment. If I had a son, I'd Chad him up and marry him off to a Kennedy.
They are so utterly ungrateful that these men are NOT acting like women... yet! Chad ought to insist these women take HIM out for dinner, wine and dine and entertain him, and conform to his politics.
Which may yet happen...
Leonian 2h ago
Sorry to tell you this but you can't just "Chad your son up"
I'm saying this as a 6"3 yo long haired guy who gets ghosted and rejected regularly
You're either a Chad or you're not, sure, you might choose better clothes, try more times etc but the principle is there
The rest of the message I agree with????????
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 51m ago
Interesting. Do you have any liabilities in your appearance that negate your height? I would of course red pill a son with game, staying fit, basic education and so on.
No need to be sorry in that it’s moot. I have a daughter so whole different kettle of fish.
Leonian 4m ago
Well not really imo, I like my looks mostly, I also exercise and am fit
I will say I definitely have a baby face tho, have been told as much and that I look like I'm 18 (I'm turning 24 next week lol) so that might be a problem but yeah
I also am red pilled but when talking to women I never play games I just treat them well/nicely because I'm not interested in relationships where I have to pretend/hide certain parts of my life
So yeah Chads are very rare and usually can do whatever they want and women will love it
If you have a son definitely teach him about women early, my parents didn't, books and movies did and that's why I became "romantic" and fantasizing about love, that's awful in modern society
Oh and btw I live in a country where the average male height is significantly higher than in the US so that probably plays a role too
Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 17h ago
Destroying chivalry always struck me as one of the ways feminism and the sexual revolution tried selling themself to men.
Men and women are now the same. There is no reason to patronize girls by treating them as children with no life skills. Have faith that they can handle themselves.
There is no need to hide your intentions behind complex displays of courtship. We are finally free to fuck whomever we like as long as they consent. Women want sex just as much as men do, and now they are finally free to act on their desires. So just ask her straight up! And if she likes you she will reciprocate. No mind games, no meaningless shows of status. Just two people who are finally free to love each other as nature intended.
Even to this day, it still hurts to be scolded for believing the lies I was told growing up.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 16h ago
One of the ways was arguing that once women start earning their own incomes, women wouldn't judge men based on money. See, women were supposed to say "I don't care how much money a man has! I just choose based on LOVE!"
In practice, it turns out that there's no such thing as 'too much money' and the price of women's love has skyrocketed. The reaction, then, is to blame men for not being 'well educated' enough as a way to camouflage the word 'income,' lest the game be given away.
Openly, most women don't care about a man's money. It doesn't matter if you make $1 million or $2 million a year. $4 million? $5 million? It's just a number.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 16h ago
Back when I was very young, and didn't understand what was going on in 1972 or so, it seemed like young women were more relatable to young men and marriage minded. They had posters of pop culture boys on their wall including Davey Jones all of 5'3" tall. Yuri Gagarin was 5'2" and got so much tail, he fractured a facial bone jumping off a ledge to avoid his jealous wife catching him landing on his face. Great pop song about him, BTW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs8ZoO1Q500
Here's the thing: teenage girls back then weren't "desperate" to get married, but just rather excited about the prospect of "growing up" and doing adult things like wearing makeup, dressing nice, enjoying and appreciating boys, loving their father and brothers, and I'd say just relatable. When I later dated milfs, I found them excellent conversationalists and well read.
I remember actually driving down these roads back in the 90's and seeing some of these cars!!!
"She's a good girl, loves her mama, loves Jesus and America too. She's a good girl. Crazy about Elvis. Loves horses, and her boyfriend too!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A
Anyway, it just seems that as so-called women's equality and wokeism "progressed", literally, women just didn't want men anymore. When the leftovers say "I don't need men", they sort of mean it in that they are emotionally and even sexually ambivalent about us.
Quite frankly, after decades of this I found myself returning the favor. At least initially when I was young it meant suppressing my sexual drive but later, when they got face pierced I didn't even need to do that. In the states, I can go a full week without seeing a woman outside of my wife to arouse me.
When I watched post-apocalyptic or dystopian futures such as A Boy and His Dog, Logan's Run or Zardoz, those seemed utterly alien but this world we live in now is more bizarre than a DeLorean time machine could hope to visit. Biff's World would be a step up.
HitTheRoadJill 11h ago
Women stopped judging Chad based on money. Not only that, but plenty will gladly spend their money on him. The skyrocketing price is for normies to buy them out of their love for Chad.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 2h ago
We wish. But if they've managed to get into an environment with lots of $1million men, you bet they're then looking for 4 or 5 million. Hell, women whose husbands are worth 8 figures feel like they somehow settled because her neighbor is a billionaire, and his bitch wife is uglier than her.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 17h ago
Chivalry is dead because femininity is dead.
"A lady is a woman who makes it easy for a man to be a gentleman."
A polite deference to women was once easy for men, because a real lady quietly defers to and respects men because they are men.
One of my best friends, a totally based Brazilian guy, has an American/White wife who is this kind of lady. One time we were at a homeschool co-op and there was the normal gathering of teachers/mothers for coffee. I didn't know this, but this wife had brought something to teach the women, some kind of "devotional" or whatever. I was just hanging out because I taught a class at this point.
I kid you not: She comes up to me and hands me her notes. She asked me if I wanted to teach what she had prepared. Honestly blindsided me, I didn't understand what was going on. Why me? Because I was a man in the room, and she knew that a woman teaching men is not appropriate or respectful, especially in a "church" type setting as this co-op is. She couldn't teach the women while I was in the room. I refused because I had no idea what the subject was, and she gracefully asked me to leave so she could teach. I was extremely happy to oblige.
I have never been so respected by a woman who is not my wife. I have never been asked to leave a room with more grace, politeness, respect, and dignity. I will always remember it.
If you can't be a lady, don't expect men to want to be gentlemen around you. If you give off slut vibes and act like a defective man, expect to be treated like those things.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 24m ago
Great words that I will remember.
If you can't be a lady, don't expect men to be gentlemen. or If you're not a lady, don't expect men to be gentlemen.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 16h ago
Yes. Boomer feminists pulled the trigger. Gen-X feminists danced on the prostrate body as it twitched. Millennial feminists drove a lawn mower over the corpse and used the skull to play polo. You've got 180 lbs of headless Chivalry Hamburger laying on the lawn now. Enjoy.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 23m ago
You left out the complaint, WAATGM?
hhhhdmt 16h ago
why are you wearing heels at a golf course?
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 15h ago
They were at Churchill Downs, presumable for the Kentucky Derby. Any woman with a brain (just go with it) might have considered, in advance, "I'm going to be on my feet for a long afternoon. Maybe heels aren't the best idea."
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 2h ago
They brought the heels but not the crazy hats, looks like!
tallhandsomerichdude 10h ago
I believe all women.... lie.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 2h ago
Wait, let me get this straight. The men she's complaining about were in front of her in line. This wasn't a case of men from behind the line cutting and running to the next shuttle, and she's not able to keep up because she's in heels. That would be a dick move.
This was an orderly line. She was behind the guys. They waited just like her, presumably longer (since they're ahead of her) and got in when their shuttle came. And she's bitching about it.
If was a dude behind these ladies, and the driver was offering a seat and they declined, I'd march right in and sit next to him. I know how busy these shuttles can get, and if they'd prefer waiting another 15 minutes sweating in the sun, they can be my guest.
Also, I love how she's mad that they didn't give up their seats even though they're in heels. Last I checked, we're not supposed to look. No, the heels, all the hair extensions, blonde highlights, low cut dress, lip fillers, makeup, and so on is supposed to be for your own self esteem only, and maybe for the eyes of the other female friends in your posse. They are definitely not for a man to look at and appreciate, you misogynistic clod! So they should actually be making a tiktok appreciating these men for keeping their eyes ahead of them, not looking behind at them, and going to their shuttle when their turn is called, and never once even knowing if the people behind them were women, men, or space aliens, nevermind glaring so closely as to figure out they're wearing heels. That's the real feminist utopia right?
These women wanted all of the advantages that come with being a good looking woman while being able to bitch about it as if it's a downside (that they secretly love anyway). They have no idea that everyone is objectified, it's only a matter of what object they classify you as. And most men go through life classified as furniture at best, and usually completely invisible. No one seems them as a person. You have to work to be seen as a person by someone. So when women said stop treating us as sexual objects, they started being treated like the default object, which is to say, less interesting than the gum on the bottom of my shoe, and they're horrified by how little attention that actually entails.
Here's what they could have done in their situation. While waiting in line, they could have struck up a conversation with the men in front. Not because of any mercenary interest (they couldn't have predicted that they'd need their shuttle seats), but just because that's friendly, and what gets you changed from an object to a person. Then, when the shuttle arrived, maybe the men might have offered you to go ahead, or if not, you could have asked politely, and they'd probably have said yes.
That's what a man has to do to get anything in this world: make an effort, be sociable enough to get strangers to see you as a person rather than part of the foliage, and then ask for what you want, knowing that at every step of that process, you could be rejected, ridiculed, etc. And taking that risk anyway.
PS: I think the thing really burning her up is probably not the shuttle. It's that, while she's making a tiktok about these guys, complaining about their attitudes, and basically letting them live in her head probably an hour after the actual shuttle encounter, they're not thinking about her at all...
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 40m ago
I am trying to figure out what the problem was. Women wanted equality, and now they got it. WTF am I missing?