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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
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I know this is an interesting take on what's usually here, but she reminds me of my first girlfriend, a Corporate Nun. They simply are waiting for a man to "man up" and serve the military-industrial complex in the meantime. Different than a CC rider, but similar casual mindset when it comes to men.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 21h ago
She did try to do something that usually requires dual-income nowadays, and she doesn't even have above-average earnings to compensate for it. Being able to save only $600 a month when you're supposedly already cutting all non-essential expenses is... not great. The housing market is brutal right now and doesn't care if owning a home becomes infeasible for a large chunk of the population.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 18h ago
Here's what I think is going on: She wants to be a "strong, successful woman" and buy HER OWN place! "Ha! I make my OWN money! I OWN my OWN home!!! So.... that means someone like me should be able to pull someone at least 6' tall because handsome men are attracted to successful women, aren't they? Oh, he should own a home too! Did I add that I'm sassy and like to express myself?"
Now, without OWNING her OWN place, what's that leave for her? Dating 5'11" guys who own CONDOS?!?! Or even lower on the food chain, RENTERS?!?!
ACK!!!! https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ba/fb/0b/bafb0bc4de5b758a7d59909f3cc99b7f.jpg
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12h ago
Yeah I suspect caviar dreams but a tuna fish budget. Most single people will not be able to afford a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom standalone house within doordash range without being some sort of skilled labor that doesn't get to work in AC all day. Which means either settling for a smaller abode farther outside the urban convenience bubble, shacking up with someone, or settling for renting for longer.
HitTheRoadJill 17h ago
Median home? A median includes McMansions that cost even more to cool or heat.
If that’s the median, she should have no trouble affording smaller single-story homes (if the realtor can find any that aren’t dilapidated).
If she wants a McMansion that badly (or nothing else is available), she’s still young enough for a good DINK marriage or she can pool her funds with another woman in her situation.
Hell, her cousin who made the post has an anime profile pic so is likely single and living with parents. Maybe her aunt and uncle will pitch in the remaining $50,000 if she lets her cousin move in to one of the McMansion’s 4+ bedrooms.
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First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 4h ago
A single person would normally expect to live below the median in terms of quality. One would expect Mr and Mrs Average to buy a house somewhere around the mid price, the poor and the single below, the wealthy above.
I do agree that there is a real problem with house prices causing failure to launch for many young people. That can probably only be resolved by removing silly liberal planning and building compliance and safety laws while also stopping immigration. However it is also worth single people being realistic that they can't afford a family home like their parents had when house prices now reflect the expectation of 2 earners -thanks to femtardation.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3h ago
That's a great start. While we're at it (and we should be), let's get rid of inflation and debt and normalize whole, intact families. Housing prices would drop like a rock.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2h ago
1) Most of the safety stuff is essential
2) most residential construction is shoddy and takes shortcuts anyway
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1h ago
I often read stats claiming women are buying homes at a greater rate than men. I have a few explanations which may include that women crave home ownership as a status symbol more than men and men tend to be willing to travel more to pursue better job opportunities making home ownership difficult. Perhaps 30 years ago, buying a home when you were single made sense before Jack Welch popularized laying off 1/5th of the workforce every 2 years to "keep them agile" (whip cracking) meaning that the average half-life of an Amazon employee is 5 years.
Do you want to sink in a half million dollar loan that includes 10% or so of closing expenses when you might need to move somewhere else in 5 years?
I chuckle when these women ARE doing well, have "their own money" and mock men who don't as pathetic losers as they join a corporate nun convent "Now I don't have to have ICKY sick with gross men!"
Yeah, that's "winning" I suppose?!?!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1h ago
I think most men who have bought homes did so because of wives and children.
For my part, had I not gotten married, I would not have tied myself down to any particular area. I'd have remained as mobile as possible.
Women on the other hand, are obsessed with and driven by status. They want the status of homeowner, even if they'll never have the pitter-patter of little feet in their homes (unless it's cat or dog feet).
SeasonedRP 1h ago
I think he is referring to restrictions in some areas, like L.A., that drastically limit supply and provide disincentives for building of starter homes.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 53m ago
Possibly, though he's in the UK.
I just know the homes built in my area are somewhat shoddy. My own was built in 1997 or 1998, and it has all kinds of problems.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 3h ago
That sounds about right. In another 5 years she'll have the money for a down payment. Then all she needs to figure out is how to pull off a $2400/mo mortgage.
This is the wrong time to buy. Keep saving.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2h ago
Knows how to save money, but can't be bothered to look up stuff herself, and doesn't understand debt or interest very well. Very few women do.
With those numbers, today's rates, AND the full 20% down payment, you're paying $892,032 over the course of a 30-year mortgage, most of that being interest to banks.
Your monthly payment will be $2,478, which is 4x more than the $600 you've been eating rice and beans to afford. That does not include taxes, HOA, repairs, maintenance, or utilities. As a woman who presumably can't repair/maintain anything around the house, these things will be even higher for you. Besides, you'll be working all the time, for three decades, to pay off the loan.
Uh, no. You've missed your purpose in life as a woman. You were launched well and are now flying sky high, but your trajectory is wrong.
It's a man's job, duty, and joy to manage all these financial things. It's what we do best. It's your job to respect your husband for managing his money which he generously shares with you, and become a wonderful mother (and then grandmother) to many of his children.
In this sense, you never even got off the runway. F for failure and U for useless.
This is hilarious. Women do these things and think they're being frugal. Absolutely nuts.
Come on over, and I'll show you a woman who has been under the poverty level for 25 years, yet is so frugal her husband has been able to invest and grow the family fortune. She respects and appreciates every dollar he makes. She cooks everything from scratch, mends clothing through multiple hole cycles, gets furniture from the dump, buys everything second-hand, does not buy makeup of any kind, re-uses everything possible, makes clothing and blankets. She goes out to eat 1-2x per year, and her idea of a "vacation" is camping with her family. She does all of this with a content and thankful spirit. She never compares herself to other women and finds her life lacking, and she is happier than most richer women.
You ain't done shit, lady.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1h ago
Minor quibble. This is, IMO, the trad-feminist narrative of men as serf and used a backhanded shaming ploy: "Why aren't you working instead of lying on the couch after a 40 hour work week? Aren't you a Real Man?"
The "gentleman/lady" narrative originates from feudal Europe and later from the antebellum south where the privileged genteel men didn't have to work because they had slaves. Men without slaves, who earned an honest living outdoors, often had their necks burned red hence "rednecks". (although I think this origin story may be flawed, but I like it nonetheless.)
Here's my gentle difference-of-opinion: Men often ARE better at doing those things, but it doesn't mean we necessarily enjoy them or should do them for "free" in exchange for transactional affection. Just as a prostitute has a right to charge for her services, and policeman to earn a living, men should expect A LOT in exchange for our providership.
It's hard work and deserves to be recognized as such. Certainly Strong Women will remind us that work is hard and unpleasant when THEY'RE doing it!!!
I'm of the opinion that if I won the lottery, I'd find a way to enjoy being in a social class that doesn't have to work and provide. If I was Chad, the last name of my wife would be Kennedy.
HitTheRoadJill 23m ago
If your wife is in such poverty that even Walmart is off the table, then you proudly neglected your job and duty as a man. At least her sweatshop labor and scavenging have afforded the glass house from where her useless failure husband throws stones.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 13m ago
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2h ago
Congrats, woman. You've turned yourself into a dude, and a dude who came up short at that.
SeasonedRP 53m ago
Buy a home with 10% down (or less) and get rid of PMI when it sufficiently appreciates. There are ways to buy a home with less than 20% down if you have good credit.
She could also buy a condo or townhome now then get a home later after she builds up sufficient equity.