Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
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@Typo-MAGAshiv I flaired as Leftovers from her statement, feel free to reflair as needed.
Anyhoo, it's a Scooby Doo Mystery Saturday!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
I doubt men are leaving her alone due to age, because I would have guessed early to mid twenties. I think men are leaving her and all women alone as part of a broad (heh) cultural shift.
I'm going with "the big question", though still weekend material as there's no statement about seeking commitment.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 23h ago
That's fine. She said 15 years since she was a teenager so doing the math: thirTEEN + 15=28. She perhaps looks younger due to, I suspect, filters.
I expect there's a cultural shift as well in that just as women have inflated egos due to the apps, the Chads don't need to approach mid-women since they can get a plethora of them on the apps. They perhaps might approach a hot woman. Logic 101 also is that the Chads I know who got paired (one married a family who owns hundreds of millions in commercial real estate) so they don't approach anymore by definition.
Essentially, it's returning to the 1950's, my mother's era, when women got married by age 21 and after that, they largely were not approached in public because the men also were paired off. It was the Austin Powers era from 1965 to 1995 or so when in public approaches were more common.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 17h ago
Many years ago, I decided to refrain from socializing with women. My quality of life improved immediately. Less drama, less stress, and less vapid conversation. More time, more peace, more money, and more freedom.
It was one of my best decisions.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2h ago
"broad"
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
She's just discovering what we already knew -- they told men they were horrible, made sure to make rejections brutal and live-streamed versus being gracious and feminine about it, and essentially made it not worth our time. Message received.
Don't know if the damage will be reversed in time, replacement rate is below what is needed to perpetuate a stable population. Even if it turned on a dime TODAY, it still wouldn't undo the damage until more than 10 - 20 years passed.
I'd love to do my part and bed several women and have a humongous family, but society isn't really geared towards that - it doesn't even like normal families to begin with.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
The thing about "replacement rates" is that it assumes a static economy and closed society. It's not. Even when birthrates were fine, the oligarchs demanded mass immigration to drive down wages and raise consumption levels to maximize corporate profits even if it ultimately ruined things. Now Zoomers can't buy a starter home with less than a 30 year mortgage. Progress!
What's amusing is how women are utterly unable to adapt or evolve. They tell us men to "man up" and become superhuman while also learning how to wash dishes and change diapers but they refuse to grow in any way whatsoever. She wants a hot guy? Go up and ask them out and get rejected a hundred times. Welcome to the world of men!
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 23h ago
Point taken - and you are correct, there is more happening than just counting deaths/births.
I'm concerned for the viability of things, since it isn't a local phenomenon and seems to be in every advanced country on the planet.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 17h ago
Even if they did, they'd still be playing in the Pee Wee bracket since it isn't socially acceptable for a man being approached to put a woman on blast like it is the reverse.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 15h ago
I would add something else, a rationalization that shallow women love to use:
Hot people are generally nice.
They use this to rationalize treating "ugly" men like shit but in general hot people are generally happier and well adjusted. I stumbled upon this secret when I decided to go grey-rock for a while and just not fret about dating and talked up pretty women for the heck of it and found they were just easier to talk to in general.
I suppose that back 25 years ago, the early women adopters who went OLD were mocked by other women but realized that they had few options. Thanks to Anita Hill, few men were approaching her at work and she just go tired of sitting in Shrek's castle moat night-after-night. So as these women had men on their arm while prettier women were also sitting home alone, the pretty women broke the taboo and started doing OLD. That perhaps was the golden era of OLD, wasn't it? Perhaps between Y2K and, say, 2015? Then it went all Tinder as the apps enabled thousands of swipes in a day.
Now granted, there are women deciding to do the "single mother BY CHOICE" route or simply going into denial and saying they "chose" to be child-free, but that reminds me of the 90's when the corporate nun I dated bragged about buying her own diamonds. That quickly went out of style as other women mocked them. I coined a term for it: "shopping masturbation". Expensive dinners and jewelry are only cool for women when someone else is paying for the experience.
throwaway_old_guy 1d ago
There are a lot of lonely people out there, desperately hoping/wishing that someone would take a moment to acknowledge them.
I would hazard a guess it's mostly Men being affected, although it is now being framed as a Women's issue because they are currently experiencing the swing of the pendulum in their direction, and they do not like it.
Men are branded with a lot of, mostly, negative labels by Feminists. It is difficult to reconcile that International Mens Day https://internationalmensday.com/ is shared with World Toilet Day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Toilet_Day and still feel valued by Society as a whole and Women in particular.
I'm glad to be Married, if for no other reason than it meaning I don't have to face the challenge of trying to find a friendly Female face in a crowd and be branded.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 23h ago
I'm amused at that coincidence. In a way, it makes sense in that we can't live without toilets, but toilets get literally zero respect. There's an episode of South Park where Randy Marsh goes crazy over his $10,000 Japanese toilet. I have a bidet so I empathize: They're great!
We live in a post chivalrous/feminist society where men are utterly devalued as human beings. "Feminism" and "the future is female" and "princesses" are considered human and children are important, as well, as chattel.
She wants a relationship? She yearns for "people to initiate" and by "people" she means "men" but men aren't really "people" otherwise she'd think about how "people" don't enjoy being saddled with unpaid "provider/protector" obligations.
Back to toilets: There was this meme on facebook where a woman claimed her ex-boyfriend took his toilet with him and now she had no toilet in the condo. I have reinstalled toilets about 3X now so I know how easy it is to pull a toilet out. It's a lift, but doable in about 15 minutes. There's the saying I saw a woman make that salt is something you don't appreciate but you notice the absence of it.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 23h ago
You don't know what you've got, til it's gone.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 21h ago
So, 15 years ago she didn't want to be "harassed" by all the attention she was getting. Now that she's over 30 and no longer getting that attention, she wants the rules to be what they were before.
She also conveniently leaves out another main place men used to approach women: in the office. Women have made that verboten for everyone except Chad. No mere non-Chad is going to risk it all (career, reputation, public rejection) by asking Becky in Accounting to have a drink after work.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3h ago
Whenever I listen to really old, retired couples talking about how they first met, it sounds pretty illegal.
"I worked at the newspaper stand, and every day, he asked me to the movies and I said 'no' to him every day for two years straight. But he didn't give up and one day, I finally said 'yes' and we went to the movies that night and it was the best choice I ever made..."
So he harassed you, then miss? You met your husband of 62 years via his harassment of you. The young women of today would rather be chased by a bear in the woods or something.
I remember seeing some article on Jezebel a long time ago in which the denizens were getting pretty worked-up about that photo of sailor kissing the nurse in Times Square on V-J day, and they're all like "THAT WAS SEXUAL ASSAULT!" And if someone dropped in to say "But the nurse never called it that," then that's an indictment of the era's backwardness. Just imagine: All of those millions of women falling in love with and marrying the men who brutally attacked them. And many of them peacefully went to their graves after decades of marriage, never realizing it.
throwaway_old_guy 2h ago
I met my Wife of 40 years at a College Dance.
My only reason for being there was her Friend/Classmate insisted I attend.
At one point during the night, She sat beside me and asked if I would pretend to be her Boyfriend for a few minutes because some guy was hitting on her.
I never mentioned that he left, and here we are.
It is entirely possible I was set up.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 20h ago
The supposed happy medium she's looking for is a fantasy starring herself as the main character, where all the hot men are written to be smitten by and motivated to cold approach her, while the ugly ones instinctively know their place as background props.
In reality, those top 10% hot guys that catch her eye at the coffee shop seldom approach a complete stranger these days because they're usually already getting pussy flung at them just from acquaintances they meet organically through work, hobbies, and other aspects of their life. Even if they happen to have room for an extra fuck buddy or two in their weekly rotation, Tinder delivers much more reliable results when you're that hot, compared to rolling the dice on any random stranger.
The song and dance she's daydreaming about is an outdated custom that doesn't make sense anymore. The most attractive men no longer need it, and for the others, it has become a humiliation ritual. She can approach men herself if she's that desperate to be Chad's Tuesday fallback option.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 19h ago
Plus on Tinder, men can manually add extra layers of protective obfuscation that are not as readily present for women randomly encountered in real life.
Like deliberately using falsified profile info and only "dating" women that live just far enough away that you do not easily risk running into them at your local venues where people know who you really are. Leaving them little to work with to engage in socially sanctioned harassment of you if they are unsatisfied with their experience.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 16h ago
Like many, I keep a very low profile on social platforms.
I recall one girl told me, (and it wasn't a chick that I wanted to be following me), "You're a ghost!" and told me how she had checked EVERYWHERE and just couldn't get her claws in to figure out where I was, going out, etc...
The sigh of mental relief that played in my head at that confessed discovery was loud enough to shake the walls.
Imagine the psychopathic girls that use any social trail as intel on how to fuck up your life. No thanks.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12h ago
Yup. What social media I have is treated like a glorified IM platform - no personal deets, no pics, no updates, no tags allowed, friends list is hidden, not even discoverable unless you have a mutual friend already, etc.
All it takes is one nosey psycho bitch to put a man forever off of sharing a goddamn thing.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2h ago
"MeN wAnT tO tAkE uS bAcK tO tHe 1950's! ThIs iSn'T tHe 1950's! WoMeN aRe FREEEEEEEEE!!!" she says as she demands things go back to the way they were in the 1950's.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 20h ago
As far as aesthetics this one has an above average face (with makeup and filters). But it's harder to hide your face behind a vaseline bloom filter in real life.
And of course she fails to address why a man should risk one of the few third spaces that they are allowed to be in unescorted and unharassed (I've literally had cops called on me for talking a walk by myself during a work break - my female coworkers had to vouch for me to the cops and this was 15+ years ago and I doubt society has gotten any better for men) when many have learned to just use tinder/etc equivalent or just not bother at all.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 19h ago
Women: "Don't approach us - we need to make this illegal, men must be shamed for this behaviour"
Also women: "Please approach us"
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2h ago
Its as diabolical as this one vid I saw on TikTok, where this girl invited a guy over, told him that "We're not going to have sex" and when he didn't try anything, she whined that "Why didn't he... you know... so I could be like 'hey staawwwwp, tee hee" -- Like WTF, its up there with how some women actually confess they want a guy to hold them down and use them like a sex doll.
Conflicting desires and it is always men's fault when she doesn't get what she wants. Just wild to me.