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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 23h ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ
Grabbed from someone who explained:
@Typo-MAGAshiv Was considering flairing Hypergamy because both apply and I think also this is weekday content but I rather enjoyed it so couldn't wait to share! Note that some of my streamable links HAVE expired so is there a more permanent way to post videos?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4h ago
That's odd. I have some from years ago that are still there. My oldest one.
TJMS Jr. Hamster Analyst 16h ago
I JUST WANT TO FIND SOMEONE WHO IS ALSO SINGLE (who also earns at least as much as me).
Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 13h ago
Complaining about a lack of single men in China specifically is borderline psychotic. That is like going to Sahara and complaining about the lack of sand.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2h ago
They bought into feminism which tends to turn women from possible wife material into boss babe leftovers with high body counts.
A bit off topic but Sahara sand is unsuitable for making high strength concrete cos of its small smooth grains.
Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 1h ago
I swear I have seen this happen in real time. Young woman gets out of a relationship -> buys into the narrative that having sex with strangers is empowering -> tries to heal her broken hearth through one night stands -> Feels increasingly worse about herself -> Blames this on bad experiences with men -> Slowly grows more jaded.
Alternatively, she barely interacts with men at all but hear all sorts of scary stories about them, which makes her internalize the messages that men are shit through media use.
I am sure one could continue the analogy by stating that actually Chinese men lack the necessary qualities for a strong relationship. At that point we are basically back at @Land_of_the_losers argument: The sand isn't good enough.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 12h ago
The sand isn't good enough.
See, as one lady put it: looking for Mr. Right is like searching through a huuge 'Where's Waldo?' book. There are no people in a 'Where's Waldo?' book, just things which only superficially look like people. And you must sort through thousands and thousands of people-shaped items, none of whom are genuine men, they're inert matter cleverly molded and painted to mimick what you're looking for: The bespectacled scrawny fellow in the red & white clothes who is the only real human.
See, it's very difficult, sifting through all that fake sand to find the one, true speck of sand.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12h ago
Hypergamy is basically about destroying attraction to other people including men so even if there's lots of men, there's few millionaires to go around. Note that Chinese are also height conscious as well.
So she's 38 and Christmas Cake and she's upset. This is absolute negligence on her part. It's like the times I leave some steak in a container and forget about it and it goes bad.
Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 11h ago
It is a delusional line of thinking still. She is making up a fantasy of a man, then expecting everyone to live up to it.
The man in her mind is rich, because rich men exist. Probably attractive because attractive men exist. Doesn't care about the social convention of marrying young, because men exist who are willing to compromise on that. Attracted to her because of course men who are attracted to her exist.
So blinded by Potential Man that she is incapable of adapting to reality. It's unfortunate. She earns a lot and is seemingly in decent physical condition for her age. She could probably live a happy life were she not so focused on this.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4h ago
No, it's what women's attraction to men is based upon.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2h ago
The main problem with a woman's hypergamy is that it is always on, and there is no such thing as good enough.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 12h ago
I have no idea about this woman's background-- due to the hollering, I can't make out an accent-- but I assume that she's not from one of the major cities originally. There's been a huge migration of 'nongmin' from the country who are newly urbanized.
The thing about China is that-- before the last 20 years, at least-- the percentage of women who never married was unusually small. Something like 7%. The pressures to get married have always been immense, and the parents (and grandparents) often meddle in the process. Whatever kind of flaccid pressures that white western women say they face ("My mom asked me when she's gonna have a grandkid!!111!! THE PRESSURE TO GET MARRIED IS HORRIBLE!!"), it's a hell of a lot worse in China.
One of my most jarringly amusing memories of traveling around China in the 1990s was being on a 3-day train trip from Guangzhou to Beijing and I met 2 middle-aged women from Yanji, which is a Korean-minority county on the border with the DPRK. It's like a fossilized little premodern Korean community up there. I was 19 or 20 and we were talking. At one point, one of them asked "Are you married?" I'm like "Ahh, no." Very quickly, both of them pulled out a picture of their respective daughters and started telling me how gorgeous their daughters were and what great cooks they are, etc etc etc. It was memorably off-putting. Parents and grandparents in rural China and Korea really used to do that kind of thing.
Yes, 500,000 yuan is a very decent salary-- approx $73,000 a year-- but it isn't off the charts. She knew the risks. It wasn't kept a secret from her. My sympathy is slightly tempered by the cultural context, but it's not like she ended up that way because of an accident, for God's sake.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 11h ago
I stumbled onto this secondhand, hope you enjoy. Sheesh, 38 years old. That means for, let's do the math 8x365 after the age of 30, for 2920 mornings she did zilch because... entitlement. She wants someone who earns more than her. AND tall of course.
At 38, there's a risk she can't have children. Men with choices can get a younger woman. She has ZERO empathy for men who earn less than her.
I'm reminded of a touching documentary about 2 brother lynx's in the wild who ran across a starvation period of a lack of game. One of them starved to death. I felt pity for the guy. I'm a cat person. The cat at least understood the importance of earning a literal living.
Oh, happy father's day whom this applies to tomorrow.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 7h ago
Yeah the gender ratio there for the current generations is so in a woman's favor that it's her fault if she can't find a man. The One Child policy was from 1979-2015 and she is smack in the middle of the age range to benefit most from that ratio. Hell, there are women who haven't even hit 18 yet that will still be benefiting from that ratio once they do.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 5h ago
There are also more foreign men working in China today than there ever were, if the local ones aren't up to snuff.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3h ago
"I am 38. I don't want to settle or compromise ... why is it so hard? The answer to your question Miss, can be found at the very beginning of your statement.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1h ago
Yeah she would have had moderate difficulty getting her current demands met even 20 years ago when she had way more leverage due to youth.
Women need to grasp that if they want to spend the last three quarters of their lives married, they need to not piddlefart the first quarter of their lives away on everything but that.