Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
Created by kevin32
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 4w ago
Listen up little girl - here's how it works.
You're 21 now....here's how the next 15 years play out - you continue to use 'dating apps' and trade your body for meals. It's exciting! And then when you hit 36, you can start 'dating with a purpose'. You'll be 'tired of the games' by then. Don't forget to freeeze your eggs at about age 30!
Those eggs in the freezer will be your sole source of comfort for your 40s.
In your 50s, you can rely on cats and wine. The eggs will have expired long ago.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
O Brave New World, with such people in it.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4w ago
I'll give her props is she's genuinely looking only for serious relationships at 21. But she's doing it on dating apps. Assuming she's still in college there are tons of guys IRL literally walking past her dorm room every day that she could meet. Heck, hang out in the engineering building in a cute outfit and walk out with a handful of potential guys who would be thanking their lucky stars to get a girlfriend, and who, in a couple of years, will probably be making six figures and would be happy to start a life with you.
But... Those dudes are short. And don't have six packs... So she's forced -- forced, I tell you! -- to go on dating apps instead and swipe on hawt dudes who have 5 other girls lined up that week. Why oh why is this plan of hers not working???
One note: she says with all the guys they agreed they wanted a serious relationship. I doubt it. That's what she convinced herself they meant, because she wanted to continue dating them. Women decide who tingles their vagina, then create whatever story in their mind that they need to reconcile this man with the image of who she thinks she ought to be dating. The easiest person for a woman to delude is herself. I've seen it. Years ago my housemate at the time was a player. And to a woman there were all convinced he wanted a "serious relationship". Even the ones that literally knew he was seeing other women at that very same time. And the truth is he never told them a lie. It was all omitting just enough to create enough ambiguity that the woman would trick herself into believing what she wanted, and then never ask the question again (at least for a few months / years, by which time he was happy to let them go anyway).
And finally, I have to chuckle at the dude who explained he had to cut it off for his mental health. That's the most original "it's not you, it's me" variation I've heard in years. Not only does it validate her (she's worthy of commitment), it validates him (he's getting attached) while weaponizing therapy-speak to ensure that the knifing he delivers can't be used to call him an asshole. Protecting your mental health? Why, this guy should be commended for being so into wellbeing and mindfulness! He couldn't have landed that exit better if he told her his emotional support gerbil was going off too many times and that was a sign that he needed to heal his traumas more before getting into a relationship this beautiful.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4w ago
"there are tons of guys IRL literally walking past her dorm room every day that she could meet."
Indeed. College is literally the best place (and time) for women to meet and lock down for commitment eligible young men with potential.
Heck, back a half century ago, young women used to go to college specifically to meet such a man that they were jokingly called "Mrs degrees". It was essentially a dating service for the affluent and smart bourgeois young women!
There's a historically significant film about how the atmosphere of college changed during this era: Animal House. Here's one of (many) "problematic" scenes that would never get past the woke censors today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4y8gaxWMZ0
"Co-eds" previous to this were carefully chaperoned with elder women who checked up on the girls, set curfews, and reported back to the parents if any "funny business" happened and she'd be brought home. Due to the sexual revolution and many of the mothers buying into this thinking, these standards were relaxed within a decade. It was so bad, that female students were commonly drinking at bootleg parties into "blackout" state: drinking alcohol so hard they actually lost consciousness.
The film is funny and I recall many amazing things I saw during the early 80's including an apartment set up as a "love commune" with 4 guys and 3 girls.
Colleges later would crack down on drinking parties but ironically it had the opposite effect of pushing the behavior underground and worsening it.
From what I heard from my niece, she says there's still a more subdued party culture on campuses but as you know, the smart men want to avoid ruining their future with a potential false assault accusation because a drunk girl got angry he rejected (or hit on) her.
Where am I going with this musing? What I think changed most significantly between dating culture in general for young people in the 1950's to 1970's was expectations. "Coffee dates" were the norm. My father took my mother for vanilla coca-colas ice cream floats. Guys in college were almost always broke so it was a rather Marxist atmosphere where a farmboy courted women in a similar setting that a rich guy did.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
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Happy Wednesday! Columbo was cancelled some time ago, but his ghost appeared and he has just this one question. He can't figure it out and neither can she. Can you help him?
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4w ago
Done and done.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Why am I only getting candy at this candy store?
Why can't I get steak at McFling’s?!
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
I was going to write a paragraph or two but I think you nailed it there. No point adding to it.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
First-light keeps it short?!
I'm screenshotting this for posterity!
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Oh dear, that confirms something I have feared.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
Oh relax, I'm just busting your balls lol
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
One minor quibble, if you don't mind, is that this woman isn't trying to order a fast food and then convert to steak when she's a leftover. She's young and wants a committed relationship. I see feminists all the time posting in anger to X: "The Patriarchy lied to us! Lots of 21 year old girls want to settle down and become housewives to rich or handsome guys and the guys aren't there! So how can you blame us for riding the CC when that's all there is?!?!"
The steakhouse analogy is useful because I serve my daughter Filet Mignon on a regular basis. It's quite affordable if you cook it yourself. For $30 I have enough for my daughter to enjoy for a week. For even cheaper cuts of steak, I can feed the cat!
She doesn't want to pay steakhouse prices or make pesky compromises modern women are told they shouldn't have to make. They don't want to be "pick mes", they don't want to approach the hottest men and risk rejection, they don't want to pick up "steak" and cook it themselves (approach men with potential in their youth and lock them down) and so on.
All they know is the drive-thru for convenience: Sitting around, rejecting men, and being demanding. They think that's literally ALL there is and even when told otherwise, they'll reject it saying "I don't want to do that. I'm old fashioned. So it doesn't exist!"
They are worse than children. Even my 10 year old daughter can see through this kind of logic. Classic King of the Hill moment: "Luanne, let me try to explain!" "Hank, I can't live in a beer can!" https://youtu.be/FpZvRAIdRJ0?t=64
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
The analogy still fits.
...but she's looking for one on Hinge!
She's trying to order steak at McFling’s.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I'll concur in that she can get a committed relationship on Hinge, but it won't be "steak" (a committed relationship with chad). She can't afford a steakhouse so she goes to McFling and orders "ground steak" there.
For the record, you can order steak nuggets at Arby's but Reviewbrah isn't a fan of them: https://youtu.be/ciRQ4x7GRps?si=W0x5G4jc3Ql5whBV
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
That was a great read. Thanks for the link.
I've never taken the time to explore beyond this subforum. My loss. I'll have to fix that.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4w ago
Funny, I've actually been pondering making a meta/announcement post to make sure our users knew there's much more to the dot reds than just the WAATGM forum.
There are other forums, and even a Twitter-like feed at trp.red.
I'll go more into it when I make that post.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
That's a great idea. That said, I'm sure you have plenty on your plate and don't need another action item.
For now, I intend to read the articles you link to in the various threads.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I'd say women would be well served by being forced Clockwork Orange style to watch a re-enactment of the tale of Daedalus and Icarus, but most are frankly too fucking ignorant or outright stupid to grasp the lesson about flying too close to the sun or to apply it to their own life choices.
These women keep slinging ass at Chad not realizing that Chad (at least a smart one) will never commit to a woman he can't vet extensively, and he's not going to commit to a woman that falls into the "he can replace her with a right swipe that evening" bloc like 99% of women on Hinge or Tinder fall into.
If these women want a stable relationship, they'll have to either stop flying so close to the sun or get used to falling and drowning in the ocean.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1mo ago
Simple. Don't have sex with a man without commitment. Ideally, that commitment is in the form of marriage. The men who want nothing serious will leave, and those that do want something serious will stay.
Also, universal advice for men and women is to not emotionally invest in someone who is not reciprocating. It certainly happens with many young men who are struggling just to get a date, though I think the same applies to women who need to filter out men who are only looking for sex.
Another thing, women who complain about men only wanting them for sex need to ask themselves what do they offer a man besides sex. Their answers should be things men actually want, not selling something to them that men are not asking for. And these women also need to determine what their selection criteria is for a man. If it is as superficial as him being tall and good looking, consider how many other women also want that same man. Would such a man want to commit to you? How realistic are you about what kind of man you should expect to want to commit to you?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
YOU DON'T GET IT. CHAD WANTS SEX. CHAD NEEDS SEX. NO SEX NO CHAD...
...CHAD FUCKS ME BUT DOESN'T LOVE ME!!! WHY!>!>!>! WHY!?!!?@@>!?!?! WHY!!11!!!One!!?//?QuestionMark!!!11
MUST FUCK CHAD HARDER!!111!!Eleven!!!
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
Reason 1/ Because they sexually desire the Chad, and they do not want to deny Chad or themselves that sex by making him wait.
Reason 2/ Because they understand on some level that if they try to make the Chad wait, he will move on and find someone else who won't make him wait which to her is a bad thing because of Reason 1.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4w ago
I can understand wanting to fuck Chad.
What I can't understand is all the denial and mystification around it whenever any conflicts pop up.
"He beats her, and yet she sticks around?!?! Why doesn't she leave?!" -- Because she's horny.
"He cheats on her all the time, but she keeps crawling back to him!! Why?!" -- Horny, she is because.
"He must be a master manipulator!!" -- Nope, she's horny.
"He must be controlling her!!" -- In a sense, yes. She's horny.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
If you can give her the "tingles", you almost don't need anything else, but if you don't give her the "tingles", than even giving her the world won't be enough for very long.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
MUST FUCK CHAD HARDER than the other 50 girls he is seeing. Then he will select me of those other 304's.
Wash, rinse and repeat.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
After downloading HookupFuckApp, she thought it was for G-rated conversations and finding "the one."
Despite all the hot doods she's been fucking, it's like they just wanna fuck! What's wrong with these perverts?? Do they just wanna ENJOY sex?? Like... for ENJOYMENT? Just TO HAVE? And not to give-away their money for a lifetime??? Like... does this babbi-da-babbi-da-boo-dee-boo-boo??? You see how that makes sense, you know??
Like ...she went to the well-advertised Sex Party and, to her shock and horror, there was SEX at the Sex Party!! ...She can't even!
...Should I tell her, or should you?
...
I dunno if this innocent, wide-eyed 'babe in the woods' act is just what she does to protect her self-image of Princess Snow White Purity, but is anyone else wearied by the bottomless irony that the last few generations of women have been drowning in sex ed, and "relationship advice" and 'how to fuck' information up the wazoo-- and they're way more goddamned Savvier And Smarter Than Any Man-- but they seem easier to take advantage of than ever? They're always at the mercy of some collection of Chads.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
Nah, it's not an act. In her mind she isn't even doing anything wrong. Women have collectively brainwashed themselves into believing that if she provides sex, she'll eventually get commitment in return, she just has to find the "right man" (among the Chads she has access to, of course... she's a 10, you know). So they'll blame men when they struggle, when the problem was never men, it's the trade women are implicitly proposing. For as long as that delusion persists, casual and situationships will always be the trend among desirable men, because commitment won't really get them anything they aren't already receiving.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4w ago
I've educated them on X and they sure hate it.
"Why can't men not be so transactional about sex?"
"Well, perhaps if you didn't insist upon the man doing the asking out and paying for dates and make him "pay" for you in terms of effort and money, he wouldn't have reciprocal demands?"
"Well, that's just ROMANCE on my part! That's NATURAL!"
"So what's unnatural about men wanting sex?"
It's not the apps. It's either them trading access for sex for stuff from men or chasing Chad. Either way, the smart men are going to demand sex.
Ironically, this paradigm used to be acceptable to our grandmas when beta males complied and she gave him duty sex but these women find that idea oppressive.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4w ago
Everybody knows that the only natural sex is between a woman and her pipette-wielding lab technician in the white coat and blue rubber gloves.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
commitment won't really get them anything they aren't already receiving.
100% correct, yet they will chase Chad for the looks and hope for commitment, when that is not what he is interested in.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4w ago
"Fuck hot men until you find the rich one. Then, abuse the hell out of him."
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 4w ago
I suspect it's simpler than that. Women aren't lying to themselves - at least not at first - they're simply ignorant of the differences between male and female psychology and running afoul of (innocently, it must be said) projecting their feelings and desires onto men, generally without even realizing that's what they're doing. Young men do the same thing when they fall into the nice guy and friend zone traps.
Men and women experience sex differently. When a woman shares her body with a man, especially early on, her brain creates an emotional connection to him. It's a fundamentally bonding experience for her and no getting around that. Contrast that with how men experience sex: it can be a deeply emotional bonding experience with a woman to whom he's mentally and emotionally committed - or it can be a throwaway lay 'cause he was horny and she was available. Hell, he can even go into it knowing he's making a mistake he'll regret later but in the moment his brain is flooded with testosterone and SCREAMING at him to fuck something, anything, Right the Hell NOW!
So this young woman downloads Hinge and, through it, meets a guy who makes her tingle in all the right places. Nature takes its course and they sleep together. After which she's all full of oxytocin-bonding goodness and mentally building their future together - right up until his behavior doesn't match her expectation and she runs up against the shocking realization he doesn't feel the same. Which makes absolutely no sense to her because, again, she doesn't understand the differences between male and female sexuality.
And how could she, in our fucked up culture which has, at least in theory, completely decoupled the physical act of sexual intimacy from the corresponding biological processes we've evolved over millions of years?
Alas, while her ignorance isn't her fault, the consequences of that ignorance can and will be held against her by the men she desires - and rightly so. Her ignorance isn't their fault either, nor are they responsible for cleaning up her mistakes.
Which is why our forebears developed traditions around sexual restraint and careful mate selection vetted by her family - especially her father - in the first place.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4w ago
That last part especially. If I didn't raise the stupid bitch, I am not responsible for her shitty upbringing or what comes downstream of it. It's something men need to learn to be absolutely uncompromising about for their own self preservation if nothing else.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4w ago
I didn't cause it, I can't control it, and I can't cure it.
Nor should I try.
Heaviuh_Things 4w ago
In other words: projection...followed swiftly by rejection.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4w ago
And of course most of them live their entire lives in such an echo chamber/hugbox that it never occurs to them to question their understanding of sexual dynamics after the first few failures, and even if informed of their failings they just deny and double down.
To very predictable results.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
If only they were taught some red pill truths about what men and women actually want, including the warning to girls that if you waste your prime years on questionable men, you will end up as a leftover.