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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago Stickied
Oh but you were training them you stupid hag. It just wasn't training them to do what you wanted. You were teaching them that "anyone else" would be a better prospect. You and millions upon millions of the other crones and crones-to-be, all of you marching in lockstep for decades, meaningfully differentiated only by the increasing wrinkles of age etched upon you like serial numbers for slags.
And now you have your just rewards. Solitude, desperation, and the indifference of men that realized they can do better than you.
Oh look, a split second of clarity...
There it is, the cope and blame redirection. Instead of admitting she was chasing men too far above her station in life; instead of settling for a mere mortal on the same level as herself. Bitch-Icarus chose to fly too close to the Chad-sun and of course her wings melted, but somehow that's all his fault.
Drown in the sea alone you cunt.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago
Also stickying your comment!
TJMS Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago Stickied
Brevity is often valued in writing, so I've decided to help her out. Free edits, you're welcome ma'am.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 3d ago
It is the soul of wit, after all.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago
Good shit.
Stickying your comment and promoting you to Junior Hamster Analyst.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Men get rejected in the front end, women in the back end, no pun intended.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago
Patrice O'Neal originally said that.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
I realize that.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
Then give credit, dude!
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Exactly what I'm looking for. A needy post-wall hag with opinions.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Hahaha! I didn't bother to catch that!
Indeed! "Look at me! I can shoot off my mouth and offend you!"
Good grief! As if that's something to be proud of! "I can't control myself! I'm like a 5 year old child telling poopy jokes!"
Adults are capable of keeping our mouths shut. Being a self-entitled boor isn't a sign of maturity, it's a sign of someone whose NOT growing old gracefully or with dignity.
There are two kinds of folks at the old age home: The charmers liked by the staff who get the good stuff from the kitchen and the "I keep it real" folks who are constantly complaining and demanding whom the staff treats with contempt.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Wonderful title. They want "no games" just when they start to lose them. I don't think she's being authentic because she's had a change of heart: She knows she's beat.
This ties into this one: https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/325242/why_can_t_the_man_just_do_it
The "play hard to get" game got her left alone wondering whether she's going to die alone so she approaches Chad and Chad rejects her! "Why can't Chads do the approaching again! I'll even do coffee dates now!"
Too late! Luther! Too late! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PZ4lmw2oQIM
deeplydisturbed FDS Dinner Donor 3d ago
She feels this way as of the writing of the article. This is an expression of temporary emotion for her.
Let her get her hands on a truly nice man. We all have a friend who is a seriously good person. She will chew him up and spit him out and laugh about it on r/twoxcrhomosomes for the lulz
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Yeah it's one of those reasons that a man looking for something long term and stable should never try to "fix" or compromise at all with chaddicts, merely identify and avoid/reject/dump/next.
These women don't know how to treat a decent man well enough to keep him around, and quite frankly, they clearly don't want to know. Any man that tries to engage in good faith with a chaddict is just volunteering to be the target of her resentment that he failed to be the 6'13" Pro Athlete CEO werewolf surgeon that she thinks is her divine right in life.
IceNineWithLime 3d ago
"the quiet violence of being matched and discarded by an algorithm"
Ah, yes, those pesky algorithms - the violent part of mathematics.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2d ago
Algorithms strike without warning, in total silence and leave no marks on the corpse. They're the ninjas of the computing world.
They sneak into your tent at night, and WHAM!
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
The reckless use of language is as great a filter as a nose ring when it comes to knowing who to ignore.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
Bro, you just destroyed her!
TJMS Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Some would say the violentest.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
She should file hate-crime charges against algorithms. In the UK, they'd probably let her win.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Yep, she looks like plenty of girls that didn't think I was worthy early on.
Men build, women collect gifts.
So it took me a while to build, and now I'm able to do whatever I want. I smile to myself about the girls that passed, they'd shit themselves if they knew what resources I have now. But of course, they all have stretch marks and opinions like the author, and really aren't any fun to be around.
No thanks, I'll keep living my stress-free life.
Heaviuh_Things 1d ago
"Stretch Marks & Opinions" sounds like a great name for another podcast fronted by two (or more!) bitter / regretful hags.
TJMS Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
She calls herself a "woman of substance." Is this woman-code for "fat"?
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 3d ago
I think you’re onto something.
Heaviuh_Things 1d ago
It's both fatty tissue and relationship trauma.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
One tiny problem there... that right man was 30 years in her past. Your average 50-year old man has too much experience with women and not enough attraction for aged hags for her to have a realistic chance.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
Yup, at 51 she's not a whole lot older than me, but I'd cut my own dick off before giving her a chance, because I damn well know this aged out slut will immediately revert to her old habits the second she gets comfortable.
Anything she has to say about her future cannot be heard over her past.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Almost gets it. She played the dread game. It worked but most dread game players -men and women are needy and hiding it. I bet she was really needy and that drove them away. Dread doesn't really make you love anyone, just fear losing them. It has its uses but as a day to day strategy it is retarded.
She is right to drop it now though. Now she is not the 20 something prize with working ovaries and no brats. Now she is a charity case. Better ask for what you want. Would have been better from the start but never mind. Bet you did OK anyway when you took Beta's shit and ran at menopause. It worked out till now. Now it gets harder. happily we can just say "Manout"
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
Note to self to address this misconception (and at TRP where it belongs as it's kind of off-topic here) more in-depth when I have more time.
Essentially, a man must use dread to be successful in a LTR or marriage. It's usually better as passive dread, and in its essence it's just the woman knowing that she can be replaced, and the man not being taken for granted.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
Yeah I think day to day in a LTR it can only be passive or it does not come across kindly.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2d ago
So you made no choices about your own behavior in those years, eh? It was all reading-out a script that was fed to you. Stimulus-response. Action without thinking. Pavlovian knee-jerking. Or puppeteers pulling on your control-wires. And at the same time, you excelled at school, made all the right moves, saw through all bullshit, made mincemeat of the dopes around you. Because you were just so brilliant when you needed to be.
Thank god you've clawed back some control over your own actions now, eh? Now it's your turn to shine!
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
It occurs to me that there is an important lesson for men here who practise "game" a bit too religiously.
She always took 2 times the time to reply to his message as he did to reply to hers plus 10 minutes. She had her won game formula. Don't forget gents girls are playing these games too! You are only seeing what she wants you to see. If you both play this trying to be more reluctant than the other to message, failure at an early stage is guaranteed!
As far as I know, girls actually started doing this systematically earlier than men. There were books like "The Rules" (if I recall what female acquaintances were raving about in the 90's). A lot of the more systematic male game developed as a response to women being utterly in control of huge options.
In this autistic arms race there will only be losses on both sides. Its supposed to be a relationship not a control game! You are supposed to want to text her and she is supposed to want to text you. It is supposed to be about more than logistics to fuck. The once attractive woman who wrote the article wasted her youth in this game. Gents take note.
Heaviuh_Things 1d ago
They somehow think these games make Chad obsessed to them. Sadly, they are often unable to play these games with Chad (who usually gets what he wants up front, fuck her rules)....frankly, if she's making you jump through hoops, you're not a catch in her eyes, no matter how suave you think you are.
You're right, in a sense. It's just a way to manage all their (lesser) options whilst amusing themselves. We gents should see through these and cut our losses.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
In the long term, men win this one because they can stay solvent in the dating game for longer than women can if they want.
If women were smart, they'd realize that the whole biological clock thing is not in their favor and they need to stop playing games well before the alarm goes off.
But unfortunately most of them aren't. They may be educated, but they are unintelligent as demonstrated by being born with the Royal Flush known as a vagina and still managing to lose.
Heaviuh_Things 1d ago
They really make all that education seem like a waste...a huge chunk of them turn out to be whorish skanks or selfish single mothers before 25. In their minds, though, they are making the best use of their vagina...huge lack in long-term perspective. I wonder if it's something innate to the feminine mind.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1d ago
Generations of mitigating the immediate consequences for women of being an idiot have produced this outcome. If we coddled young men to the same degree, they'd end up overgrown spoiled brats too.