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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
If I recall correctly, wasn't Bumble's original business model where the woman has to initiate contact with a man first as it didn't allow men to initiate first like other dating apps like Tinder.
I get it, as a woman, you want the man to make the first move because you have super fragile egos that cannot handle the possibility of rejection well, so why bother with an app like Bumble then?
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 2w ago
Wanting a "confident guy who can take initiative" can be nice to say, but as a man who went through the trenches of online dating before I found my wife, I can say that often the efforts to do so is often fruitless and frustrating. This is mainly because most messages you send, regardless of the effort you put into them, will get no responses, low effort responses, or a conversation that does not lead to a date for whatever half-baked reason you are given. So the idea of an app where women initiate the conversation would have some appeal for men who experience too many dead ends for their efforts. Too bad the app got rid of the very feature that used to differentiate it.
I will say that for many men in online dating, the issue of confidence is not really the core of the problem, but rather the lack of results in getting to the point where confidence becomes a factor. You can't really show your confidence behind a keyboard or a phone, and too many men are not getting to the Have a Date with a Woman phase for confidence to come into play. So I strongly disagree with the assessment of this woman regarding men and "confidence."
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ
@Typo-MAGAshiv Regarding Rule 4, I censor out the city but for country, I think it's useful to leave in for discussion. Is Deutschland a sufficiently large enough region?
Regarding how I got this post: The AI algorithm feeds me new stuff continuously including some excellent weekday content! This was the most recent LIFO queue so posting now.
Regarding Germany: It's strange to me that as the old joke goes, when a German says they speak "a little English", it's usually better than my own. Sheesh, though, I suppose there's always an exception!
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2w ago
Already posted on r/WAATGM
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
I am a very independent person, so I want to depend on a man doing all the work.
Sounds like most women's metal image of themselves and what most women want. How any of this transfers to reality is another matter. Weak female, unable to exercise personal choice wants Chad to sweep her off her feet is usually the reality.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
With women like this "independence" is more about attitude and vocalizing the attitude than actually being self-supporting and taking responsibility for her own life. You are simply using the word "independence" wrong.
See, she needs a man to initiate conversations, drive her around, arrange the restaurant & entertainment reservations and (vitally) pay for everything. That's not "dependence", that's her "knowing her worth."
She's "independent" because she thinks her date is a stupid doodoo-head and is unafraid to tell him that after he's done all of that work for her. And maybe she accompanies it with a jaunty snapping of the fingers and her friends on social media commenting "SICK BURN GIRLFRIEND!".
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
"Independent" seems to mean self centred. Its like "strong independent woman" means "attitude filled and self centred"
Heaviuh_Things 2w ago
Yep. It means "the usual duties for you, but a newfound freedom for me"....the kind of woman who's proud of never doing anything for no man.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Well, ladies, you are the ones putting the goods up on display. I see you're cute and have a nice ass and tits, but what I want to know is what you are offering outside of all the other hundreds of girls who are cute with nice asses and tits.
You showed your cards too soon. What I hear is, combative, competitive, and not cooperative. What I hear is that instead of following my lead, you are going to do what you want. What I hear is you are going to question every decision I make that doesn't benefit you exclusively.
Sorry, sweetheart, not interested. I'm sure there's a lovely bear out there somewhere just perfect for you.
Heaviuh_Things 2w ago
The way she phrases it in English reminds me of a few gold-digging Russian types...I'm sure they enjoy bears.
NPC070201 2w ago
The Curse of Eve on full display.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
She made it to puberty with an in-tact pussy. That should take care of her end of the bargain, right? Now she should just get to sit back and collect, while men do the rest right? Right!?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
Yeah, that was sort of Bumble's entire marketing schtick for its first decade of existence. Do try to keep-up, dear.
"A dependent man would want a woman to start a conversation (booooo! BAAAAD!) I'm an independent woman, so I demand that the independent man start the conversation which I won't start (yaaaaay! GOOOD!)"
Also: an independent woman needs a man's money, ideas, car, house and labor. Without all of that, she'd just be "dependent" and useless.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 2w ago
It baffles me that they ended this practice for the app. With that change, what makes Bumble different from its competitors? The answer is nothing. I get that women do not like initiating the conversation most of the time (many guys will report that women on dating apps will put the grand effort of opening the conversation with "hey"), but they are conversely very judgmental of men for how they start the conversation. If you are not willing to put in the effort, then maybe consider the pressure on those who are required to do it.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
I can understand it. Because it was dumb from the beginning.
Think about it: The pitch from Bumble was that because women needed to start all the interactions, it would therefore give women all the POWER of... going first? Which, as they found out, sort of sucked... though, you couldn't persuade them of that. They all seemed to think that starting conversation was the most important thing since sliced bread, minus any actual bread slices and they hated the taste of the bread anyway. Starting conversations was the biggest and best advancement for women EVER... And they needed an app which structurally required them to do it. Rather than the wherewithal of actually doing it.
Funny thing: men never needed an app to cajole them into initiating conversation, other than necessity. You can't have a conversation if you don't have a conversation. But women needed a ton of slick marketing and the convenience of a smartphone device to teach them a banality.
Colors? Pictures? Wrapping?
When you think about it, how is any one brand of vodka different from another? It's supposed to be tasteless. So they concentrate on colors, pictures & wrappings.
The marketing people need to do something, after all.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
There's this hilarious Content Machine video of a date with a German guy where he is so bland and then he gets a venmo from the German girl for $4 for her share of expenses during the date. I was like "Perhaps the Germans aren't so bad after all!"
There are tiktok videos of American women crying in Deutschland about how the German men are "cheap" or not chivalrous enough. Note that Germans are generally tall and more healthy than Americans so American women are generally competing at a disadvantage. I suspect this is an American boss babe griping that the German men are not thirsty for her.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
"There are tiktok videos of American women crying in Deutschland about how the German men are "cheap" or not chivalrous enough"
Please, post more of these videos! I love these
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
A zillion of them. It's a hassle getting the watermarks off for official posting (if anyone has a good one for free, let me know!) https://www.tiktok.com/@germanwithsammy/video/7551164801213402423?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7400963215025358367
Heaviuh_Things 2w ago
These broads....either he sits down to pee, like the Germans, or he pays for everything, unlike the Germans...choose one and stick with it!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
When I was teaching a writing class in the US (mainly to Indian and Korean students), I once quipped a warning to the guys in the class who wanted to marry an American gal: "It's great if you want to do 50% of the housework while buying 100% of the diamonds."
Heaviuh_Things 2w ago
"...and ultimately get 150% of the divorce!"
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
I read a story about a 20 something Los Angeles woman moving to Australia. Over there men only buy drinks if the girl is to go home with him. She thought she was ugly that no man was buying her drinks. Now, when she goes out, she usually has to pay for her own drinks. Also, the men there are not so aggressive, much to her dismay.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
A tradition that we have started importing thankfully. Men need to yank all access to foody calls and other "free shit just for having a vagina". Dates should be a reward reserved for a woman already in a relationship that has behaved well.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Almost every foreign country is. American women expect that other countries are just like America. In other countries, dates are cheap because they do simple things, and want to enjoy the time in each other's company. You know, a REAL date.
American women are so spoiled, they can't even fathom the idea that a date is intended to share time together and not how much money the guy can spend on her. That's why their future ends with their cats eating their rotting corpses.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
What's also pretty interesting are the expectations about cooking.
Chinese dads are expected to be able to cook in a pinch. You take stuff, throw them into a wok, and that's dinner.
When you cook for American women, they expect it to be a Michelin-starred 7 course dinner. You're supposed to supply amuse bouche, vichyssoise with scallops, pate de foie gras with sesame sauce, seared duck breast with cherries and shaved truffle, charcoal grilled sirloin with apple-rhubarb purée, followed by an assortment of cheeses, fruits, brandy and chocolate. And then, they're like "What, no ketchup?! I'm not eating anything!"