Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
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SwarmShawarma 5d ago
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
I guess you are still not a keeper then. Sorry miss. Its a bummer.
I think you need to try something different. What does a guy get when he is with you that he can't get by himself without any added duties or responsibilities? I would look there to start. 36 year old women on their last boxes of eggs are 2 a penny. Some of them have even enjoyed sex with men too.
Are you enthusiastic to please him him? Do you nurture him? Do you make minimal requests? Are you a helpmate? Would you put your career second to your family? When you can tick all these boxes you are a good bargain basement going out of soon sale and if you deal fast you might lock a sub prime man down. Prime men are not an option now, sadly because you can never be prime now at 36. Prime might rail you if wanting a bit of distraction. Is this what has been happening?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
You'd think they'd eventually realize that when a guy does the entire circus bear routine that he has to do just to get laid at all, and sees that there is nothing on offer past that other than used pussy and socioeconomic liability...he is gonna nope the fuck out instead of committing.
Of course the problem is these women can't see past their own noses to realize that a committed relationship, while beneficial to the woman, is not so for the man.
It's gotten so bad that I'm not even sure that if dowries were brought back in force that it would save these women's marriage prospects. At the very least the value would have to be massive to offset the fiscal risk of divorce and child support.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Dowries might actually work for some of these! Get a handsome young migrant. He will stick around long enough to get his passport which is long enough for her to get some kids.
If your middle class daughter is failing in life, don't pay her mortgage off, pay her dowry!
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Eh, one would need far more than dowries in that situation. You'd have to also have instituted massive counters and controls over female hypergamy. Women looking for a
marriagea retirement plan want to marry up into status and/or luxury instead of having to work until retirement.Or at least that's the kind of woman that ends up on the wrong side of 30 whining that she can't kind a man to marry her. The actual helpmeets tend to get taken off the market once found.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
She went to church a couple of times. You need a therapist, not Jesus.
Single women keep women single.
That's what adults do. Doesn't make you special.
Again, doing normal adult stuff doesn't make you special.
Whore. It probably slipped out and you ended up telling on yourself. Red flag.
Furbabies come in all shapes, colors, and sizes. That's your only option now. You might get lucky with a guy in the 50-70 range.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
We'll just have to disagree on that one, but you might agree if you knew how bad the state of "therapy" is these days. It's all women just listening endlessly (which obviously costs a ton because they would rather be talking). Nothing ever gets solved, and the push is to administer lifetime drug prescriptions instead of actual relational work or habit change.
This kind of "therapy" is worse than no therapy at all, because a woman can do that for three years and say, "I've been working on myself," but all she really did is vent and acquire a soup of drugs to nullify her emotions. It makes them even more entitled because someone is actively listening and affirming everything they feel and do. Then they expect a man to do this perfectly, every day, because that's what men are for.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago
Hey now, that implies she got paid in a fair transaction. No, far more likely she's just a slut. Whore is a status most modern women aspire to and fail to reach. One can see this even in the OP, she threw pussy at a guy but has nothing to show for it since her pussy alone has no long term value and she fails to grasp that. She aspires to whoredom and falls short.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 4d ago
Her therapist needs Jesus
I hope the adoption centers don't let her take a kid
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4d ago
"Chad fucks me but doesn't love me."
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
When all you have to offer a man is pussy, don't be surprised if all it gets you is dick.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago
That particular line says a lot. A woman on X said "women asking out men doesn't work because then the man thinks he's hot and he won't be into you". Well, yes. This doesn't just "not work" for women, it's the general rule of thumb: the person being "chosen" has ALL of the power hence why women are so reluctant to give up that advantage. I've known about 4 Chads in my life and they often got approached precisely because they were hot.
Eff Dee Ess would advise her to not "give up the goods" until she gets commitment but her problem is she has little leverage over the men, even normal men, who will wonder if she's just exploiting him for free food unless she has sex with him. This is the problem with "traditional" modern-dating: Nearly all women will have at least a single digit body count if they date a single man for more than 2 months.
I have a theory that the reason why, supposedly, statistically average women don't have massive high body counts is due to them going out on a lot of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd dates and then the guy moves on (or she does)like one I posted a month or so back who went on something like 30 Hinge first dates in a year. Now that's astonishing if us men had that option to actually sample 30 different women but of course, we'd pay for that privilege at about $100/per.
And that's the trap, the "pattern": She enjoys free food and entertainment. The men appear to like her because if he's losing money by being himself, he's penalized for expressing any sincere doubts. He may even convince himself he's having a good time.
Then after he gets sex and his brain resets to factory settings, that's when the "real" courtship begins. He has actual, down-to-earth interactions with her. He may even want to get married but he wonders: "She isn't as hot as I made her out to be when I trying to get into her pants."
She has no familiarity with changing to make herself into a better woman for a man despite her "working on herself" because getting men to pay and entertain her requires zero effort. She is only familiar with self-improvement to please a boss or her friends.
Heaviuh_Things 3d ago
Not only that, she fails to vet the man beyond good sex, LOLs, a few good bites to eat and platitudes like "I'm looking for something real and long-term!"....8 years running now.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
I was a wingman for a Chad for about 4-5 years. It was amazing to see what women would do for him. He put little to no effort in looking for women, they came to him. He would approach the 8', 9' and 10's with about a 90% hit rate. I saw women come up to him and give him their phone numbers. Yes, I saw this.
One time, he was offered by a stewardess on American Airlines to spend a week with her in Hawaii. He could fly on her companion fare for $100 round trip from Houston and back and split the hotel cost of $62/night. He was mulling it over. I said what is the problem? He says he knows he can find better looking women there and bring them up to the hotel room for sex. The issue was the Flight Attendant. He was trying to figure a way to get her out of the room so he could have sex with better looking women. Finding women for sex was not the concern, the Flight Attendant was. This is the life of a Chad.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3d ago
It's not just that. She's 36. At that age, even if technically she's not asking them out, the tables have still turned. The guys are vetting her, not the other way around.
The guy she was dating was, by her admission, great sex, great to hang out, had his shit together. Assume he was late 30s/early 40s and ready to settle down. That guy has tons of options ranging from early 20s on up. Plus he's older, wiser, not as easily hooked by women's tricks. He vetted her for a long term relationship, spending 4 months with her, then decided to move on.
This woman is used to being the one who chooses. And in her youth, she could do that. Men would audition for the role of one night stand, fuck buddy, boyfriend, whatever. And she could dump them when she got bored. But now, the guys are doing this to her. She needs to perform like a dancing monkey with no guarantee that he'll say yes to an LTR. And it's so soul searing to be the one who has to audition that she's now hopeless.
Welcome to being a regular man in his 20s and even early 30s. And all those guys get nothing but admonishment to "man up" and do better and improve and "no one owes him sex or love". Now it's her turn to heed that advice.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago
"Men get rejected on the front end, and women get rejected on the back end" - Patrice O'Neal.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
Modern women have convinced themselves their pussy can hold down a long-term a relationship on its own, the cost of that fantasy is getting jostled around from situationship to situationship as their options slowly thin out. In reality, there's no reason for a man to stick around and pay the heavy cost of commitment if a used up hole is all he's getting.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
Every woman has one, but hers is special, don't you know.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
She thinks that if she threw it up in the air, it would turn into sunshine!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago
I would advise women honestly that it's not necessarily their body count that's working against them but rather something even more subtle and insidious: Their relationship count.
A dinner date is a relationship, even a short one. She dresses up to feel important and validated by someone entertaining her and providing her with food in public view. Even if the man is handsome, he's aware that if he says something otherwise innocent that offends her, he's punished by being out of money he paid for the evening.
https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/324864/6_months_of_hinge_dates
Each time she goes out and rejects a man, she develops "avoidance tendencies". This is such a huge problem, that these women are hearing this term from their therapists. She finds it empowering to "next!" men. She develops outrageous standards. Her rejecting men carries more validation with fellow women than accepting or defending a man she likes.
Note: This doesn't require her to sleep with any of these dozens, even hundreds, of men. She's rewarded with free food and validation for doing so.
Heck, after she "locks" down a man, the free meals and entertainment stops. Real Men are boring. Real relationships are a hassle. Ask my wife!
Prior to the dating apps, aside from PUA's, the majority of men and women might date, perhaps, a half dozen people. It simply wasn't that easy to get a proper date even when there was a plethora of singles in school or weddings.
So women had "dry spells" of months, even years, between dates even if they didn't admit it. They also were advised then, unlike now, of their biological and social clock. That if hot guys were in demand, and getting laid was rare, the hot ones were taken by the time the women were 25 at most. So these women had a sense of urgency on dating but without sleeping with the men. They put in actual effort aside from looking pretty.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
This is a really good point. For commitment to happen, both sides need to be in an environment of scarcity, but the problem with modern society is that ages 18-28 women don't even know what scarcity is. Then when they age past that, the coin rapidly flips over in men's favor. There isn't really any period of time where both men and women in the same dating pool are facing scarcity simultaneously, unlike older generations where scarcity was much more consistently prevalent across gender and age groups.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
It's like the Prisoner's Dilemma in game theory, with one important variation. When both sides are choosing "defect/betray", (nearly all) women benefit in the short term while (a subset of) men benefit in the long term.
And women did this to themselves. They failed to realize that long term benefits for them are primarily only available when both sides are picking "cooperate". Puberty until wall is a relatively short period of time. The rest of their lives is a hell of a lot longer.
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
For every American woman who actually knows what the prisoner’s dilemma is, there are 10 who will want to know if the prisoner is hawt.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
IKR?
Wahman in their 20's: "zomg! Jeremy Meeks is SO HAWT!"
Same wahmens, in their 30's-40's with rapsheet generating womb-turds in tow: "Why can't I find a good man?"
Heaviuh_Things 3d ago
More often than not, a man's story goes from rags to shags. A woman's goes from balls to walls.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago
kek!