Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3h ago
I'll make 2 observations:
First the article has as an foundational theme the transactional transfer of value from men to women. This is the core element of prostitution.
Second it asserts a false idea (a lie): Personality in Men Is King and Many Modern Men Lack It
If this were true - that women wanted men with "personality", men would obtain "personality" to receive access to sex - and the other things we want from women. But it is not true.
I once read: if women want men who don't lie and cheat, they should have sex with the men that are truthfully and faithful, but, instead, we overwhelmingly hear women complain that their last boyfriend was a liar and a cheater.
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
This just in:
Fish cannot see water. Fish denies water is wet.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
I prefer to say the fish cannot see the water for the sea she is swimming in. Interesting article. They are begining to learn.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
If you don't want to slog through this nonsense, a simple breakdown: "Women can't be blamed for their preferences because they're historically oppressed AND it's natural for her to demand things from men. There are plenty of outliers of ordinary looking men with hot wives, so all fault must lie with lazy men."
Ironically, right underneath the article is clickbait to keep you on the page: "Glen Powell Proves Masculinity Is Hot" with a 6' actor next to Sydney Sweeney. It's amusing that feminists HATE her because she's conventionally pretty and not an old hag with multiple face piercings.
This is a good time to ruminate on how we may feel tempted to express pity towards leftover women who express despair about their situation when they've had zero empathy for men their entire lives.
Heaviuh_Things 1d ago
Ruminated, got a laugh out of my system, and now I sleep much better.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
This is a sign that things have actually come a long way. The author does not fully understand the concept of hypergamy but she does know it exists.
He answer to hypergamy is -hypergamy. Well of course, what else is a girl to do? The solution is more masculine men, the cream of the crop of current men are masculine enough, that is what a girl wants. That's right love, that's hypergamy.
I do wonder what most women would do with a more masculine man with more testosterone? Those qualities of drive, energy, strength, focus, courage decisiveness and so on that she admires can be turned towards a woman -usually in acquisition- but they are primarily the man's. Such a man has less need of a woman, more options, less need to please her, more desire to go out and find adventure, less fear of letting her know he is displeased. Its not likely to result in him taking her shopping more at weekends anyway. One doubts more manly men would be voting for as much feminism and free shit to be given out as weak men.
Heaviuh_Things 1d ago
She knows it's "Red Pill" (the ick!). And it's quite fashionable to (attempt to) debunk red pill concepts.
A more virile man, you mean? He would probably be deemed super toxic (and yet, he would still be fucking plenty).
Nay, their idea of "masculinity" is less to do with testosterone, and more to do with being a noble knight who has nothing better to do than to make her life as wonderful as possible. A means to an end (their happy ending). As usual, they demand the Sir Chad Chaddington package, but with the Simpy McSimp contents inside.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2d ago
She knows what hypergamy is, she just wants everyone to applaud it so she doesn't feel criticized.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
It's funny because feminists have spent decades emasculating men, while masculine men refused to bow down to the feminist demands of superiority. They refuse to marry the beta males, and refuse to be submissive to the masculine men, so they end up alone and crying about where have all the good men gone. There is no third option. Prince Charming doesn't exist.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3d ago
Hypergamy wouldn't exist if all men were in the top 10%. DUH.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 2d ago
The way I read this is that the woman who wrote this does not fully understand hypergamy. Hypergamy in practice is women seeking the best possible man she can for relationships and marriage, and while traits such as physical attractiveness are part of the equation, it is most certainly not the only part of the equation. One of the core tenants of "gaming women" is about how you present your personality.
And when this woman says "Actually, personality is a far bigger factor than just looks," she is not presenting new information. What she has done is narrowed the definition of hypergamy to looks and money, "debunks" it by stating that there are other traits that play a role besides too. Traits that are well established to be part of hypergamy. Of course women want a guy who also has the personality as part of the package. Men have been talking about how to improve themselves in the social sphere to succeed with women better for decades. So this is not groundbreaking news.
I will say that for a man to be the most successful with getting attention from women, he will find it easier if he has more of everything. More earnings, better physical attractiveness, more charisma/personality, and anything else that women seek.
One major factor with why looks are so emphasized is dating apps. Many men have a hard time getting to step 1 of dating if they cannot even get a date. It is hard to argue that personality is more important when you cannot even get to the phase where that starts mattering. Another thing, "personality" is often subjective to looks as well. I am not saying personality does not matter, but we are doing the equivalent of telling job seekers that they need to improve their interview skills to have a better chance of being hired when they are telling you that their resume keeps getting autorejected by the broken job portals. So we first need to get past the issue of the autorejection before we claim that "what really matters is your interview skills." Both the resume and the interview skills are relevant to hirability, as both looks and personality are relevant to success in dating. We simply need to understand what the first hurdles are when discussing issues.
Heaviuh_Things 1d ago
Very interesting how a grown woman could not understand "women seeking the best possible man she can for relationships and marriage". There's another article on the same website discussing the issue of "settling" and why it's such a used term amongst women. The answer?....Hypergamy. It never sleeps. And it apparently never dies too.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2d ago
This is 'no duh' territory when it comes to racial discrimination, but we're supposed to think that romantic attraction exists in a vacuum.
It's the same for judging apparent "intelligence". You show people a photo of two similar-looking men standing next to each other, one slightly taller than the other, and ask "Which one is smarter?" They will choose the taller one. "Because he looks smarter."
It makes absolutely no rational sense, but like in an object-oriented database I guess it's how certain items get classified and linked in the brain. Smart = good and tall = good, therefore TALL = SMART. The reason why we don't hear so much about "height discrimination" in popular culture is probably because women are guilty of it more than anybody else.
I think there was an experiment on some dating site, asking people to rank people's intelligence based on their photos and then, independently, rank their attractiveness. To nobody's surprise, the more attractive you are, the better your personality is. There's no such thing as an average person with a great personality or a handsome man with an average personality. The better you look, the better your personality is assumed to be, and if your actual personality comes up short, the difference is rationalized away. If you're unattractive, you've already got two strikes against you and the smallest, most forgivable slip-up proves that you're a serial killer.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
Another example of convenient inconsistency by women. If a guy is hot/rich but not especially bright or appealing, women will default to his "great personality" or sense of humor to insulate herself from criticism for being shallow. She's hoping no one notices her "rationalizing away" his shortcomings.
Meanwhile, if that same woman tries to set up her chubby bestie on a date with you, she will almost always say, "She's got a great personality. You should give her a chance." As if men are supposed to be the nobler sex and value personality more than she actually does. No deal, sweaty.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
It's astounding how much funnier a man's jokes become to a woman when he's good looking. "He's got such a great sense of humor!" This is my surprised face.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2d ago
As a teenager, my sister's boyfriend (later, husband) was rich. Like, an office building in the central business district of my hometown was named after his grandfather and a cargo vessel was named after his father. Intellectually, he was not exactly the sharpest apple in the coin-purse. Ahh, but she loved him for reasons that she could never really articulate. His sense of humor maybe? Yes, that must be it. He has a great sense of humor. That's what made him so lovable.
My younger brother-- who needed to start labelling his snacks in the fridge-- saw through the charade quickly and didn't really care that the dimwitted man-child who was eating his clearly-marked popsicles out of the freezer had a rich dad.
My sister signed a prenuptial agreement and made a big show of it. The fact that she was in medical school and planned to have her own career sort of made the prenup a little moot; she was able to access a very decent standard of living at a time when all her med school classmates had to scrimp, save and borrow. One summer, she complained vociferously to me about how much med school was costing her about a week before her husband took her on a vacation to Italy.
Anyway, they had kids and about 15 years later-- well after she started out-earning him and he started thinking about quitting his job-- my sister began to notice more and more... he was a dimwitted man-child! Who'd have imagined such a thing?!?
Anyway, his sense of humor no longer saved him from becoming her ex-husband. She got the house, the kids and the vacation home in the Caribbean. He served his purpose. He was the first-stage booster rocket for her satellite launch and now that the orbit was stable, it was time to cut him loose and dump him into the sea.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
Goddamn poetic, and accurate.
That is how women act, when your utility has crossed the lower bound you're set aside for the next guy to take your place. As we know, many men come to the red pill because of an experience like that, its very sobering.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 19h ago
Thank you, I've been using that metaphor for years and I think it's a good point-maker.
Heaviuh_Things 1d ago
Sobering story indeed. And here I thought med school meant you were (or made you) smarter than average.
I have to ask...where was your father when your sister decided to shack up with Dimwitted Man? Did he too fall for his legendary sense of humour?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 19h ago
Here's the thing-- morally, he was an upstanding person. Didn't drink, gamble, smoke or do anything like that. He played tennis regularly and generally behaved himself. He handled money well. He was in (community) college and had realistic plans for the future... he got a decent job (in banking), threw nice barbecues, he always treated my parents respectfully and so on. He did a lot of things right. So, as a person, it was hard to find anything which was terribly disqualifying. Yes, he wasn't very bright and couldn't take care of himself very well. And once you accepted that-- and thought that it's possible for a person to learn & self-improve-- the rest of him was all right. Over time, despite his shortcomings, he earned more of my respect.
My parents tended to accept their kids' love interests because I guess they never wanted to be blamed for any of our relationships going sour. My paranoid loon whorebag fiancee, for instance-- they never breathed a word of objection about her until after I dumped her. Compared to her, my brother-in-law was a real mensch.
Anyway, he died 2 years ago. He was born with a heart defect which, despite surgery and living cleanly, made the medical statistics eventually catch up with him.
Heaviuh_Things 11h ago
Paranoid loon whorebag...gotta note that one down for when it gets useful.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
That guy's attorney who helped him with the prenup must have sucked!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 19h ago
I think he must've been caught flat-footed by the divorce. Like a sitting duck. Also, my sister got some incredible predator for an attorney.
As for the vacation home, one year, I bought them a hand-cranked ice-cream maker as a gift. They brought it down there and they used it during every vacation. My sister recently finished selling the house as well. The process was a pain in the ass. Apparently, foreigners can't own property in Barbados, but they can set up a front-company which owns the property and you need to sell that instead.
...goddamn, I feel old.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 17h ago
Are you familiar with James Sexton on YouTube at all?
He's a divorce attorney from NY (at least the state, not sure if also the city), and he had an interview with Soft White Underbelly go viral a couple of years ago. Since then, Rollo has had him on his channel a few times, and he's been interviewed elsewhere.
Anyway, he's been a divorce attorney for over 20 years (I think closer to 30 at this point), and he has never seen a judge overturn a prenup. Whether he was defending his own prenup he wrote for his client, or trying to overturn a prenup for his client, the judges always upheld the prenups.
So that makes me wonder: how bad was this dude's prenup, that your sister was able to get so much?
Most guys are, which is why you want a prenup. It's ready when you aren't!
Did his get overturned? Was it just crappy? Did he not bother trying to have the court enforce it?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 18m ago
I don't have the full inside story, sorry. I thought that prenups mainly cover pre-marriage property and don't cover property accumulated during the marriage? The specifics are outside of my wheelhouse.
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
My guess is that the wedding happened before RP was at all mainstream. Couple it with the guy being silver spooned, and he had “no reason” to think the marriage would ever fall apart.
Heck, he probably thought he really did have a great personality and that it carried him.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago
Oh, I'm sure it was before Red Pill was anything other than a prop in "The Matrix". But prenups have been around for decades, and rich families have always sought to protect the family fortune from interloping gold-diggers.
I hate to use an example from fiction, but in one of the early seasons of "Sex And The City", Charlotte (the brunette, easily the prettiest of the 4 women leads and also the biggest hypocrite of the 4) managed to bag a very successful doctor who came from a very rich family. The dude's mom was incredibly protective of the family fortune, and oversaw the prenup and the eventual divorce proceedings.
And hell, even if the real dude that sparked this discussion didn't have his parents involved in any way, if his attorney was worth a damn he'd have advised better than that, one would think.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 19h ago
He wasn't protective enough. That's for sure.