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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 17h ago
No one denies that dating in 2025 is difficult. Before social media, people met through church, social groups, friends, family, work and bar/ restaurants. Now, Online dating sites are the rage, and they are not working as designed. Why?
The Pill came out in the 60’s, which gave women control over pregnancy in a way never before possible. Women could plan their lives without unplanned pregnancy. And what was the conventional wisdom at the time? That everyone was going to get more sex. But that did not happen. Why? Men and women think differently. Men want variety and women want Chad. So what happened? The Chads got all they could stand and then some, the 8 ‘s and 9’s got more than before, and the 7’ and below got less and some got none (Incel). Women had access to high level men, but having a 9 for night is not the same as having him for a lifetime. And with plenty of women wanting a 9, there was no incentive for him to choose one woman when he could have many.
Disney and Hollywood added unrealistic expectations in dating for women. The leading men in movies were 6’ plus. As proof, one only needs to look at the male actors who played James Bond over the years. Daniel Craig is the shortest at 5’11” all the rest over 6’. Disney pushed their leading male characters with exaggerated chest size and muscles way beyond normal size. Disney also pushed that shorter male characters were undesirable and evil, like the short king in Shrek.
Less than 15% of the men in the USA are over 6’, yet 80% of women want/demand 6’. One only needs to visit any OLD site and you will see women’s ads where they clearly state height requirements, with no exceptions. This unrealistic expectation harms women’s dating prospects, for there are only so many men 6’ plus. That means many more women will not end up with their 6’ unicorn and feel that some how they have been cheated. If they do get into a relationship with a man, they feel they settled for less. Not exactly a healthy start in any relationship.
The Princess syndrome. If a young girl has been told she is a princess and is treated like a princess by her parents, at some time she will believe it. Thus, why should she go after the lower 80% of men? Why bother with those bottom feeders? She deserves only the best i.e. 8’s,9’s and 10’s. All she has to do is make herself known, and the men will fight for her attention. And what will happen to the majority of these women? Again, they will feel that some how they have been cheated. If they do get into a relationship with a man not 6’, they feel they settled for less.
6’s acting like 9’s. All women over estimate their appearance while discounting most men’s appearances. One only needs to look at the OKCupid graph where 80% of men were rated by women as unattractive. This makes women think they can date outside their league. Years later, they find they can’t.
Conclusion. 80% of women are chasing 20% of the men based upon nonsense. It is mathematically impossible that all women will get what they want and the majority will feel they had to take a consolation prize i.e. a man of lesser value. This begs the question, “Why can’t average women be satisfied with average men?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 14h ago
I'll deny it.
If my grandma had time-traveled from 1926 to 2026, she'd be in shock how easy it is to pull in a guy with a decent income who would worship the ground she walks on. Literally 100 guys on a magical book device.
Back in the 1960's, the feminists screamed they wanted "sensitive men who respected women who earn a living" and they got them but they don't want the majority of these men.
Back in 1950 or so, the social networks you describe were comfortable but also limited. A woman might know only 1 or.2 chads in her lifetime AND those men would only date "stacys" because pre-marital sex was off the table back then so he stayed in his lane or if he was a "bad boy", the women knew that getting involved with bad boys was a scandal.
Now, women sleeping around with bad boys is normalized. Why? Because they're either empowered or Victims, of course. She can do as she pleases without consequences (at least in her social circles.)
Well, actually no. Ironically, women are shared for being "pick mes" and valuing traditional marriage, being chaste, humble, submissive, valuing family more than career, and so on. They are brutal towards those women and my wife in particular got shamed by American women which was ok by me in that I didn't want her to be influenced by the bad girls' hivemind regardless. So... that suited me fine.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10h ago
I'll deny it.
You: If my grandma had time-traveled from 1926 to 2026, she'd be in shock how easy it is to pull in a guy with a decent income who would worship the ground she walks on.
Me: You are describing a SIMP. And a lot of men, not all men, have woken up to being used for Foodie calls, friend zoned, being used as an ATM etc. The man writing these words would never worship the ground for any woman. BTW married 27 years. To say we are equals is not correct. We each posses skill sets that the other does not, so we work as a team with the best skilled person making the decision on the topic they are best at.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9h ago
I chuckle when on X these women gripe that men a century ago were 'real men' and held open doors, gave up seats on the train, and so by "worship ground she walks on". Apologies if that wasn't put in context.
Back then, yes, even if the men were submissive AND hard working and all that, the women back then would have Been On Cloud 9.
This notion today of women finding kindness and the empathy from men they used to claim to want from Alan Alda in the 1970's as weak and pathetic is a relatively new phenomenon. I am seeing a Universe 25 culture shift from online boss babes saying that men should want relationships with women without sex as they regard sex as loathesome even as they still want the "hot" guy six footer and such which is quite puzzling and amusing:
Imagine if men were wanting cheerleader looks from women but not for sex. That he just wanted her to be pretty to see her but he didn't really want her physically. To us men, wanting a woman with good looks is for us to get aroused. We would assume this works for women as well.
I think they're revealing that the tall men weren't about arousal but simply STATUS to impress their women friends.
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Imagine how funny it would be if it read:
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2d ago
This post fits the time line of attention whores. When they are younger they can get quite a lot of A&V from men, just by putting out. That dries up pretty quick.
To replace the A&V they used to get from men, they pivot to creating content which is basically a desperate pity party. Men no longer notice her BUT she can still get likes and comments from other fems.
The click bait of this kind of women is that she is counting on other women say 'but you're so beautiful!!!' any man would be just so lucky to have you!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe they are intimidated by your extreme beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
Oh no, a woman's golden ticket has expired and now she has to experience a dating life that's still better than what 90% of us experience! Let's stop everything and figure out how to make things better for her at once!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ
Note: This is real in that it was on her channel (not something someone overlaid this text on.). Weekend Content since Rule 5: She's not stating she's seeking commitment. Happy Holy Saturday!
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
My wife is in her 40s and just hitting her stride as an excellent housewife. She feels joy in learning to be submissive to her husband, and is learning all kinds of trad home skills, like how to skin/cook squirrels and make carpets out of yarn. "Strength and dignity are her clothing, and she smiles at the future."
This woman's problem is not that she is "past her prime". It's that she squandered her entire life for popularity, attention, and money, and has nothing of value to show for it. She is a useless, unfulfilled, purposeless woman, like millions of others without husbands/children.
The devil always collects his due. As her physical body slowly decays, only depression, hopelessless, and resentment will remain. She will gradually become a bitter old hag who still smears makeup on her face and dreams of the past.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
That's the key word. There will be millions more joining her, and I intend to treat them as invisibly as they treated me for most of my life. Sorry, not sorry.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 18h ago
The sad thing is the majority of money used to support these has been 304's will be from men. 55% of those collecting SS posses vaginas.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
They are worse than useless or without purpose. They consume more than they produce. None of these women got through life without siphoning off of men. Every single one of them I guarantee had a moment or three where they received something at a man's expense, knowingly or not.
That's only barely excusable when packaged with a working womb that is being put to its intended use. Without that, it's unforgivable.
Edit: people bemoan the rise of social media and apps and how it has injected nitrous into women's hypergamy, but I view it as a good thing in accelerationist terms because the genie is out of the fucking bottle now and women are finally facing selection pressure. Nowhere near what men have dealt with for literal eons, but it's a start. We've got enough humans existing now that we can afford winnowing the chaff from the female half of the species.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
A lot of men think this all started in 2010 but it was going on since the 1990's and even before but just boiling-the-frog style acceleration or "hoflation". My mother shit-tested my father back in 1958 but ONLY giving him her name, and not her phone number so "he had to look me up in the phone book". So the disrespect was common even back then.
We really need masculine input in our society. Up to now, the men running things simply didn't say anything because in their privileged state they are above the issues. Once the frog is boiling, the input from us is coming and man, they can't handle it. They have no defense or argument when they are confronted so these entitled women usually do a "response and block" online or try to change the subject. It's funny watching them stomp their widdle feet, metaphorically, without effect.
It's amusing also that one of the female supremacist arguments is "nearly all women can have children while only a few men can" but yet, we're in a generation where 1/2 of women will wind up childless AND these are otherwise high status women! It's an unprecedented darwinistic selection in the history of mankind.
Men are the natural drivers of civilization. When things are run by women, peacocks have wonderful plumage and everyone lives in caves. There's no useful development. Men are the ones who are needed for input because, after all, if we're "leader/protector/providers", we should be making the decisions, not the tables.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 18h ago
No one denies that dating in 2025 is difficult. Before social media, people met through church, social groups, friends, family, work and bar/ restaurants. Now, Online dating sites are the rage, and they are not working as designed. Why?
The Pill came out in the 60’s, which gave women control over pregnancy in a way never before possible. Women could plan their lives without unplanned pregnancy. And what was the conventional wisdom at the time? That everyone was going to get more sex. But that did not happen. Why? Men and women think differently. Men want variety and women want Chad. So what happened? The Chads got all they could stand and then some, the 8 ‘s and 9’s got more than before, and the 7’ and below got less and some got none (Incel). Women had access to high level men, but having a 9 for night is not the same as having him for a lifetime. And with plenty of women wanting a 9, there was no incentive for him to choose one woman when he could have many.
Disney and Hollywood added unrealistic expectations in dating for women. The leading men in movies were 6’ plus. As proof, one only needs to look at the male actors who played James Bond over the years. Daniel Craig is the shortest at 5’11” all the rest over 6’. Disney pushed their leading male characters with exaggerated chest size and muscles way beyond normal size. Disney also pushed that shorter male characters were undesirable and evil, like the short king in Shrek.
Less than 15% of the men in the USA are over 6’, yet 80% of women want/demand 6’. One only needs to visit any OLD site and you will see women’s ads where they clearly state height requirements, with no exceptions. This unrealistic expectation harms women’s dating prospects, for there are only so many men 6’ plus. That means many more women will not end up with their 6’ unicorn and feel that some how they have been cheated. If they do get into a relationship with a man, they feel they settled for less. Not exactly a healthy start in any relationship.
The Princess syndrome. If a young girl has been told she is a princess and is treated like a princess by her parents, at some time she will believe it. Thus, why should she go after the lower 80%? Why bother with those bottom feeders? She deserves only the best i.e. 8’s,9’s and 10’s. All she has to do is make herself know, and the men will fight for her attention. And what will happened to the majority of these women. Again, they will feel that some how they have been cheated. If they do get into a relationship with a man, they feel they settled for less.
6’s acting like 9’s. All women over estimate their appearance while discounting most men’s appearances. One only needs to look at the OKCupid graph where 80% of men were rated by women as unattractive. This makes women think they can date outside their league. Years later, they find they can’t.
Conclusion. 80% of women are chasing 20% of the men based upon nonsense. It is mathematically impossible that all women will get what they want and the majority will feel they had to take a consolation prize i.e. a man of lesser value. This begs the question, “Why can’t average women be satisfied with average men?
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
If that's the facial expression she wears as (I assume) one of the oldest women in that night club, it's no surprise she can't attract any interest.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 18h ago
Resting bitch face.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
On that day, it really won't help to have a lot of useless tattoos that looked a bit better on a young body that everyone wanted but which are now saggy and dated. If that was her hand, what other delights will her (now scarcer) lovers see?
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago
She could start by taking the gold boogers out of her nose.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
The highlights in her nostrils made me think she had a septum ring, but it wasn't there. What the hell am I seeing, lol.
Maybe some nose piercing and because of the angle we see the studs?
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2d ago
I zoomed in and she has 3 nose piercings. So tasteful!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
I am amused at her regretting no longer being in her prime when she engaged in what I would consider anti-makeup, septum piercings, that make women less attractive to the majority of men particularly the high status men. This leads me to believe that they both utterly rely upon youth to drive their demands from men even as they live in denial about it.
This ties into @PoopBeast point above: Even with the wall or off their peak, it just means they need to make an actual effort, a small fraction of which men are shamed on X for not engaging in. "All you guys need to do is just approach a 100 women and get rejected with disgust a dozen times or so in public, hit the gym 3X/week, get cool hobbies, learn academy award level acting, and you can pull a 7". These women are "utterly hopeless" even doing the most minimal of effort.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
Maybe we need to start flooding their comments sections with comments telling them they need to do "the bare minimum", or that we should be compensated for the "unpaid emotional labor" of dealing with a women with this kind of baggage and insecurity.
I feel like we need to up our levels of sass.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
Here's one of them who got disgusted when a man didn't rush to pay for drinks. https://x.com/ReclaimD1/status/2042624087688708527?s=20
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 5d ago
She reminds me of one of those cartoon villains whose experimental serums cause their brains to expand-out the top of their skull. They usually have psychokinetic powers or something.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
Indeed. Now, she has 2 whole brain cells.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
@Land_of_the_losers Someone already did this! https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_vx0qmN1Zp4n-5tPzGcR3LVdkiFJ7DjVYrQ&s
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 16h ago
Megamind? Nay. Megabitch!
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
LMAO