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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1d ago Stickied
OP, this is weekend content. I realize that as a millionaire every day feels like the weekend to you, but come on, man!
Fuck it, I'll leave it up. I enjoyed the hell out of the comments, especially yours.
But please do be mindful of the rules you're supposed to be helping me enforce!
CC: @woodsmoke too!
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1d ago
That thought occurred to me when I first saw the post but, well, mod privilege. Also @Land_of_the_losers has been doing this gig a lot longer than I have.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1d ago
Jesus. First feminists glamorized divorce. Then they glamorized single mothers. And now they're glamorizing becoming a porn star to feed your kid you got from fucking your teacher?! I mean, if the patriarchy ever did this to women, they would be howling from the rafters and jailing every man in sight. I guess telling women to find a man, stay home, and raise some kids is oppression, but telling them to sell pics of your butthole to random dudes in India and Saudi Arabia in order to afford diapers is liberation. It seems that being a feminist means never having to acknowledge hitting rock bottom.
Roger Ebert had a movie term to describe movies whose premises or central conflict were so weak that in the real world, they'd be solved in 5 minutes (like horror movies where the kids just had to turn on the light, or run away from the forest instead of into it, or a romcom where if the two characters just talked for 5 minutes, everything would be cleared up). In this case, in the real world, her problem would be solved in 5 minutes: McDonald's is hiring, they pay above minimum wage these days, and certainly far more than the average onlyfans girl makes.
But a movie about a single mother trying to make ends meet by working 2 jobs at McDonalds and WalMart wouldn't land on AppleTV with glamorous stars portraying her life. At best a documentary to be quickly forgotten in some obscure film festival. No, to be worthy of millions of dollars spent to glorify you as a liberated hero, you need to really fuck up. You can't just be a single mother living with her parents. You need to further annihilate your future chances of a decent life by permanently placing pictures of your vag in the ether, forever available for future college admissions officers, employers, and romantic partners (not to mention your kid's future classmates) to find and recoil from.
That's what it takes to get a feminist to endorse your life as a shining example worth glamorizing. Got it.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
Looking back on daytime trash tv, I can see a kind of similar energy-- or at least a form of kindred spirit-- on the "My teenage daughter is out of control" episodes of Jenny Jones and/or Ricki Lake.
The trailer trash would defiantly charge in from offstage wearing fishnet stockings, a homemade tube dress made by spooling green-colored Saran-wrap around her body until it turned opaque, purple hair extensions and deelybobbers. She'd waggle her tongue like Gene Simmons, ham it up and gesture truculently. "Nuh-uh! Youse all just jealous of mah bangin' badeh!! WHAAOOOOUU! Youse're all just haters! WHEEEEW-HEWWWW!!"
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
This was written in a style that I found amusing and well articulated.
Just had to say it, good one brother.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1d ago
The more of this shit I see the more I can't help thinking to myself "Weimar problems require Weimar solutions."
We're not anywhere near that point in actually, of course, and I don't actually want a Fourth Reich - not least because the Nazis were just another flavor of socialist faggotry.
But I trust you take my meaning.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2d ago
They said she couldn’t have it all: a baby, a college education, and a thriving digital micro-enterprise funded by enthusiastic subscribers around the world. Streaming soon on Apple TV: Margo's Got Money Troubles, in which Margo proves that with enough grit, reliable Wi-Fi and continual parental support well into adulthood, anything is possible. It’s the ultimate American success story, where one's vagina is both a terrible curse and a sellable commodity!
One day in the distant future, this brilliant young genius might even make a breakthrough scientific discovery that will prevent pregnancies from happening in the first place.
TJMS 2d ago
As I watched the trailer, all I could hear was HUALALGLALGLAGLAGLGLALAGLAGLGALAGLLAGLGALGLGALGALGALAGGAAGGAGGGGGGHHHHH (horrible cocksucking noises)
Hoping and praying this is third-wave feminism empowered girl-boss YOU GO GIRL sassy, smart, and don't-need-no-man's last gasp before reality is undeniable.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2d ago
The series is based on some book which I've never read. But one detail in the description stands out:
The pregnancy happened because she, innocent college student, slept with one of her professors. And got pregnant (that always seems to come as a surprise; "dick go in baby hole, me have baby in tummy" is apparently too obscure to have heard about in high school). And the prof was married, so he doesn't take any responsibility and he disappears. Because of this, he probably needs to be framed as some kind of capricious villain for cheating on his wife and not taking responsibility for the child. Indeed, it's unethical for a professor to sleep with their students and he probably ought to be fired for doing that. But the audience is supposed to boo and hiss at this ungentlemanly behavior. And the audience is not supposed to remember that most students in a class—male or female—do not enter into sexual relationships with their professors, and the heroine wasn't sleeping with other teachers, so our heroine was pushing a boundary that she knew she shouldn't have transgressed. Alas, she needs to be blameless in the situation; pregnancy "just happened" to her and she was left with no recourse, out of desperation, she has no choice but to turn to online porn instead of, say, working a job at a desk.
Since I haven't read it, I can't judge things with any certainty, but I can make a few predictions: In order for the woman to be a scrappy heroine whom the audience must root for, there are certain questions to not ask. Firstly: Why would she sleep with a professor who is grading her? It can't be for better grades, that would reflect poorly on her and imply that she isn't so smart after all. She can't claim to have been forced. So she had to have been seduced. She, naive little thing, was in love as pure as the driven snow. But this part needs to be glossed-over in a hurry. To make a long story short: Margo ended up blindsided by one of those Random Pregnancy Meteors which fell in from the Oort cloud.
So she has money problems. Since it's in the title, it's important. So what was she doing for money before she got unexpectedly pregnant? Was she working a student job? Subsisting on scholarships? Okay, so why not continue doing that while hitting-up the prof for child-support? He's an adulterous bastard anyway, so the effects on him shouldn't be important. So why does she allow him off the hook? Why does she let him get away with it? She has options but she chooses not to exercise them? Well, there needs to be some extenuating circumstance which causes this to happen.
If circumstances were not all completely beyond her control, she'd look like an impulsive dumbass-- and possibly lazy-- and we're not supposed to see or judge her as such. We're supposed to think that she made no choices up until her pregnancy, she has no agency until it's convenient to the story, porn sellers are heroic while the buyers are gross. Etc etc. "Poor me, my house burned down. Now I'm homeless. On an unrelated note, I no longer have a place to pursue my hobby of playing with Zippos next to piles of oily rags."
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The idea of "accidental" pregnancy is absurd to me. It's like saying I accidentally drove a car. I fell behind the car's open door and found myself behind the wheel, the key flew from my pocket into the ignition, my face turned to shock as the engine roared to life, my hands magnetically wrapped around the steering wheel and-- inexplicably-- I ended up on the highway. And FROM THERE, maybe I had an accident and wrecked my sentient 1958 Plymouth Fury devil-possession car named Christine. ... So, no, you can't say you "accidentally" got pregnant. You engaged in risky behavior on purpose, with both eyes open, possibly multiple times, then one of the predicted life-changing risks actually came to fruition. Shock. "IT WAS AN ACCIDENT! Who knew that babies came out of baby-holes?!"
TJMS 2d ago
As far as what I can tell/remember from the trailer (my mind probably is trying to blot out the memory as I type this), the whole movie looks like a pile of immature woke feminist tropes. The naive, pure, spunky heroine who is a perfect person whom bad things just seem to happen to would certainly fit into that.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2d ago
I'm particularly fond of the British euphemism that popped up a few years back: fell pregnant.
Y'know, like she's walking along the sidewalk one bright sunny day, tripped over a crack in the pavement and POOF - all of a sudden she's eight months into gestating a baby that wasn't there thirty seconds ago and no one can fathom how it possibly happened.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2d ago
She fell on a dick is what happened.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
It's amazing what happens when you pump sperm into a viable uterus!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
In Persian, the verb "to fall" (aftadan) can also be used as "to happen." (i.e.: "An incident fell" "An accident fell") But you cannot pair it with pregnancy, I don't think. For that the verb is "to become". You would need to specifically say it's accidental; as near as I can figure, you can't build it into the verb like that. (According to my intermediate knowledge of the language, at least).
In Chinese, there's a grammar construct called a "stative verb", which describes a condition; it's both an adjective and a verb at the same time and requires a modifier to change its tense. So "Pregnant" (yùn), while an adjective in English, is a stative verb in Chinese. You'd say "tā huáiyùnle" (She bosom pregnant+past tense). Again, you'd need an adverb to say it's accidental.
In Japanese, "pregnant" functions like a regular verb. ("Ninshin suru"), which can also mean "to fill" or "to swell". though there's a euphemism "Mi komoru", which means "to watch over". Again, you'd need an adverb.
...they say that one of the good things about English is that you can constantly create new terms & phrases to reflect new mores and realities. Apparently the old-time crudity "she got knocked-up" was too blame-y for some people.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
At first I thought this was an AI made parody of feminist tropes and then looking at the page owner, gasped: It's REAL!
Packed with stars, it's obvious this is a feminine girl-power story reminding women they can do as they please and, well, by modern standards this is true isn't it? So many of them are "foodie" callers, chad chasers, or tatted up skanks that OnlyFriends appears relatively mild by comparison. She has a point: Things have sunk so low, why is anyone shocked about her "Spicy Content" paying the bills?
I'm not an economist but I'll play one here: I read that the average Only Friends content generator gets something like $80/month. That's not entirely worthless but it also means a plethora of content out there. I think early on in the porn days, the stars of that made big money as well. In a documentary on porn, Hot Girls Wanted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZrR5AvAmjI
Rashida Jones explores how most of these girls blow their innocence on a fling to have fun: buy some designer bags, and then quietly leave and go back to their normal lives.
Heck, we have so much porn now it's literally free. I remember the old days when you had to pay money to go to a disgusting theater or later, shame yourself picking through VHS tapes in a backroom. (Well, I heard about it anyway.)
The irony is that so many young women will pack the theaters to see this (for women) pornographic fantasy much like Sex and the City not realizing that this dream peaked perhaps 5 years ago.
And the Harvard degree her character dreams of getting? Good luck with that! None of those jobs are going to Americans now.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
The income on OnlyFans follows a kind of power-distribution curve where a small number of very well-promoted outliers (presumably with a skilled production team) make enormous amounts. Promotion across multiple media platforms and dealing with clients to create custom materials is apparently way more important than the actual product. You're right that the payout is meager for most people, but I guess there's always a belief that one can win the lottery.
As a supplement to one's income, $100 a month would be helpful for some people but my day could be spent doing more productive things. Two years ago, a Japanese academic wished to publish a large document in English and hired me to be her proofreader. I worked mainly on evenings and weekends, marking papers in red ink and offering alternate phrasings and improvements through several revisions. That temporary gig made me enough cash to pay my property tax that year. And, somehow I managed to keep my clothes on.
I think I'll create a website where I'll sell high-quality griddles and skillets. I'll make videos cooking omelets and frying pork chops. It'll be called... OnlyPans!
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
For sure, Pareto distribution with a very long tail of failure.
Problem now is, with AI video generation - which is VERY good and getting much better - Having these girls fling their holes online won't even be a commodity in demand anymore. Why bother, when you can generate with a prompt (and I know someone is going to make this even more automated, but most of it is text-to-vid right now) a girl with your favorite features and a slamming body doing exactly what you want.
Why would anyone need to tip some online strumpet to get her to arrange herself into whatever pose you wanted? Talk about free, the cost basis for spicy content is going to slam through the floor. I really don't see how OnlyFans and the rest make it, not to mention the sites with "stars" in their offerings.
Just like the burgeoning possibility of real-life sexbots, the price of sexual gratification is going to absolutely crater. I don't think women in general are ready for this. This is aside from the conversation of whether porn and all the rest is useful, just stating that the trends are overwhelmingly pointing to a future where relying on real women won't be necessary.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 22h ago
I do remember, a few years ago, a spate of articles about sexbots. Naturally, the "gender experts" interviewed expressed concern that it would somehow lead to increased dehumanization and violence against women-- perhaps via some telekinetic force yet to be discovered-- arguing that sexbot manufacturers build-in some kind of consent-giving mechanisms so that the sexbots couldn't be sexed without asking their permission first. The lack of substance to the postulated dangers existed alongside the predictable insults and slams against the inability of men to form real, human relationships and how pathetic it is that they'd even want to be sexual with such things. Despite attempts to slather-on layers of concern and disgust and disinterestedness, there was nonetheless a sort of panic which was carefully hidden under the whole thing.
Naturally, this comes after a decade or so of sex-toy wielding feminists gushing about the wonders of battery-powered penis-shaped machines which offer no foreplay, dirty-talk or post-coital cuddling, and exalting how real flesh-and-blood men can't possibly compete with such utterly perfect love-making modalities. Having a beside drawer full of "best friends" is qualitatively different from a disgusting sexbot, of course. No objectification or violence or dehumanization can possibly result from frequent use of such erotic delights.
One day, I look forward to the creatively-designed feminist-approved sexbots that a man could be authorized to obtain. With realistic fat-rolls and acne and light mustache hairs on its asymmetric double-chinned face, containing a low fidelity, screechy infinite-loop tape recording about the epistemology theories of Sandra Harding and the writings of Kimberlé Crenshaw. Perhaps with realistic body odor, garlic breath and queefing. All for three monthly payments of $49,999. After he has filled out the required applications, notarized physician's notes, registration papers, provided his valid ownership license and takes the sexbot to the nearest inconveniently-located maintenance counter at the DMV for the semiannual checkup, debriefing and mandatory seminars on healthy masculinity. It'll all be very sexy!
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 19h ago
Hah, nice one. I enjoy your writing.
As you know, their shrill attack on the automation of sexual gratification is just so they don't hold themselves accountable for it. I prefer real women, but I understand why a guy in this era would just say "fuck it" and go the other way. Less problems, and I think most guys are checked out of the whole marketplace.
Sure, if something falls into their lap that is fuckable they'll go for it, but putting time and resources into pursuing a girl in this age just looks like diminishing returns, if any. I'd really like the pendulum to swing the other way, where real women are the lure and technology a back-burner replacement in a slump, but here we are.
Not sure how it will resolve, but I follow AI and Robotic closely for other reasons (mostly financial) and see where the trends are going. If women are going to insist on pretending they are men in many aspects like career and dominating relationships, then they should be prepared to face what men have always done - solve problems, and solve them permanently and competently.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
I'm looking forward to seeing your brand grow.
Perhaps OnlyVans. Seems legit.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
My attempt at gay pornography was a complete fiasco. I'll never try to revive OnlyGlans.
TJMS 2d ago
Dear. Fucking. God.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
"My mom worked at hooters and my dad was a professional wrestler" Yes the ruin of a culture is an intergenerational exercise.
From the trailer, I fear that the show would be less like watching a trainwreck and more like watching a turd gather flies.
One thing that I always think when I see something like this -a poor girl has to do this nasty sexual thing to make ends meet- I think gosh women are privileged to have this option. Single fathers just get on with it and grind away in menial jobs.
As any sane man who came into contact with that would say -Next!
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
The fact that any of that, at all, appeals to anyone living in the US as entertainment - this is a sign of how far we've fallen.
It's also confirmation of my choice to get rid of all TVs in the house like 20 years ago. Haven't missed it one day.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1d ago
The once-mighty Vagina-Showing industry reached its heyday in the late 19th century and entered its long period of slow decline. In 1895, its heralded banner year of production, over ten million freshly-crated vaginas had rolled off its lines for distribution via Erie Canal barges to seemingly-insatiable markets in the cities of the east coast and beyond. Its productive workshops once clanked with machinery as its punch-clocks awaited the long morning lines and eager hands of Sicilian and Latvian immigrants whose grime-streaked smiles always seemed grateful for their once-princely paypackets of 25 cents per week. Pinkertons, Wobblies and scabs were unheard of ever since the Great Titty-Showing Strike of '78 had quashed any dreams of unionization. A cessation of hostilities between labor and capital mixed with the general optimism and assurance of an expanding and seemingly limitless market meant that times were now good. And they were fleeting...
Alas, today its grand facades stand still and quiet. Its smokestacks no longer spew blackened coal fumes, its steam pipes form habitats for rodents and its slowly cracking floor has become poked-through with tenacious weeds. Now, like the boiler-powered locomotives and equine-derived glue factories of yore, it is the rusting relic of a bygone era, standing and evoking a storied past, like the metal skeleton of a proud, antediluvian forgotten beast on a windswept badland as blown dust whistles through its steel ribs and wrought iron backbones. Its lathes and rollers, its hydraulic presses and boob-shaking jigs have long since been dismantled and sold as scrap. Once at the cutting edge of mankind's heady dreams of industrial greatness, the sprawling Snatch Works is passing into the dim mists of history, its fading glory mourned only by a shrinking circle of museum curators, nostalgic antiquarians and eccentric collectors...
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2d ago
This is so educadtional! Hopefully young women can learn something from this. Maybe they too can escape from tyranical (and very patriarchical!!!) family structures and become sex workers and raise children on their own! That seems to be what the world needs.
More sex workers (so empowering) and more single mums (down with the patriarchy!).
Netflix is doing God's work with this insiprational story and spreading the word.