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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 22h ago
A) because I'm so far above you that I've had women who are far more attractive than you do that for me.
B) let's reverse the sexes in your statement and question, shall we?
If meeting up somewhere public isn't good enough, then too goddamn bad.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5h ago
Their argument goes they want to protect themselves from dangerous men. They often argue how (all) men owe women special treatment because women live their lives in fear. (I'll also add that she's worried if she acts like a prig, she'll have to call an Uber to get home.)
So why do they purposely date tall and buff men when most violence against women is DV? Wouldn't it be safer to date the short, submissive, beta males? Heck, my great-grandmothers jumped on those guys as good providers.
What amuses me about their whining is back 30 years ago when men first started griping on the Internet about the dinner bill, the women chuckled: "Tee hee! This is just market choice! Caveat Emptor! You're free to not ask out girls and pay for dates and sit home and die. Haha! This is just MANNERS and you can't pass a law on manners, haha!"
So now there is actual market economics at play from men, FINALLY. Their whining indicates that a threshold number of men have finally hit these women where it hurts. They are deciding to not give up their seats on a bus to a "lady", to hold open doors, and so on.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5h ago
Not if she drives herself, which chubbo in the video makes it clear she does (unless it's more than 45 minutes away).
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4h ago
Agreed. That was in response to @First-light who said it was to her credit she was driving to the venue and giving up the precious privilege of a male chauffeur. She's likely worried she might get stuck needing to call an Uber.
Back in the 1970's, fathers used to give their daughter's "mad money" where, if she was mad or the date was mad, and she had to call for a taxi, she wouldn't be stuck in the middle of nowhere. So then women joked when the boy drove her home "I spent my mad money on a new purse!" meaning she didn't give the money back to Dad or hold onto it. It just got "lost".
GeorgeIII 21h ago
Jesus. Her voice is so annoying I think I would rather date the homeless man too.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 16h ago
"If I wanted to pay for some random man's meal..." Princess, if you split 50:50 its not his meal you are paying for its yours. You are not entitled to free food. Anyway, I hope you are not dating random men because then what are you? A meal whore?
Wants to bring her friend! Why its not about showing off to your friend that you got bought dinner because you have a pussy. Its supposed to be about meeting and vetting the guy.
One positive, she does not expect to be picked up, she actually drives to a date herself.
Men: stop feeding these creatures. Does she sound like mate material? So ignore her.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6h ago
Women live in such a projected world, it's like the shadow universe in Dark City, a classic sci-fi film noir.
Womanese logic: Man doesn't offer to pay for her food: "He's cheap". Nevermind SHE doesn't want to make an effort or pay for relationships with top tier men. Man refuses to pay for HER meal means he's asking to pay for his. This is straight projection. That meal is her's, by right, without paying for it so him refusing to pay is him "taking" from her. Get it?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 16h ago
Looks at thumbnail of video
She's not pretty enough to make any demands. She's a 4/10 on a good day. If her brains cells were functioning, she would know to be effusively happy to find a guy that is employed full time and not physically abusive, and would know to jump through whatever flaming circus hoops it takes to lock him down.
There is no need to even bother pressing play.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 9h ago
I couldn't sit for 5 minutes across the table from her before saying, "Could you please just shut the fuck up?"
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 20h ago Stickied
Racial humor is fine. Actual racism isn't. (Paraphrasing the great Patrice O'Neal).
I have close friends who are Indian. Not all of them are street-shitters on the one end or spoiled little princesses like this one.
Also, just FYI, but my fellow mod @ogrilla99 is of Indian descent.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 17h ago
Believe it or not, I have Indian friends and students that I'm rather fond of. But I have never seen an actual good Indian wife, even among the smart ones who make it to the US. Their culture does not prioritize the marriage relationship. My wife has confronted certain Indian women (even "religious" ones) and they do not even understand what is meant. They all own their husbands and wear the pants in every home. They will be ultra nice to you until they are behind closed doors, and then they yell and nag all the time.
If you want to call that racist, fine, I wear the badge with pride. But until I meet a single good Indian wife, I'm calling it like I see it. Even American women are better, and that's a low bar to begin with.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5h ago
What I saw of the ones I got to know well were the exact opposite. Their culture (whether Sikh or Hindu) did value marriage, and divorce was unheard of until 3rd generation on, and usually happened to those who departed their religion and/or married a non-Indian.
One of my college roommate's parents were awesome as hell, including to each other. His relatives (at least the ones I met) were similar.
If they did that, then they kept it well hidden! I never witnessed anything of the kind.
Caveat: they were all upper middle class, and none of them were the sorts to crap in the street and would have been just as horrified at that as we are.
GeorgeIII 2h ago
I’ve seen the dynamic you describe @NotaBene
Generally, I’d say this is an issue for Indian women who marry Indian men in the west. What I see is that Indian women treat their BF/husband poorly like you say if the man is Indian. But the Indian woman is sweet like apple pie if her BF/husband is White. Seen this a few times with both my Indian guy friends and White guy friends. And notably no relationships between Indian women and men of any other race.
Indian men are seen as less desirable than White men, from the point of view of Indian women. As an Indian woman, you are seen as extremely successful if you can marry even a decent White man. I’ve seen this with my friends who date/marry Indian women. Generally, the man gets more respect from his Indian girl if he is White. So marrying the Indian man (especially if the girl lives in the West) is seen as settling, which comes with its own problems…
I’d also say that Indian men also don’t have very good frame on average. Not because of genetics, but because of culture. Similar to East Asian cultures, the idea of needing to follow a “successful life path” leads to having weaker frame as a man. There is great social pressure to go to uni, get a job as a doctor/lawyer/engineer, and then marry and make grandkids for your parents. While this is traditionally “good family man” territory, it’s not most people’s organic desire, leading to weaker frame.
All in all, most Asian girls in the west (including East Asian) would rather date a white dude for fun, get P&Ded, and then find a beta later, Asian or White (but again preferred White)
As a guy who is half East Asian, but lived in the West my whole life, I’ve hooked up with a few girls who told me they never even kissed a other Asian guy, but have dated White guys. To me that used to sound crazy, but it makes some sense with the reasons above. I just know now to be non-judgmental, let these girls talk, and then never commit. To East-Asian me, an Asian girl who has dated only White guys is at best FWB material. Don’t want to end up being her beta bucks.
And last, for my fellow variety pack Asian men reading, NEVER telegraph that you are a serious guy with a fancy job/money. Frame yourself as a fun guy for adventures and hookups. You can avoid the disrespect this bitch in the OP’s video spews out of her mouth.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6h ago
This brings back memories of when I broke The Internet 30 years ago when a snobby African-American woman of mixed ancestry said men like me had no "choices". I said that I didn't date partially African women and generally wanted a full European ancestry woman, preferably Slavic.
She Went Insane along with nearly everyone else on the forum.
How DARE I, a person who, according to them, NOBODY cares about what standards I have because I'm so meaningless anyway, exercise a Politically Incorrect (back before "woke" was a term) thought?
Of course, it wasn't just what humble me's Thought Crime was, but rather she was terrified the hot men she desired would exercise the choices they have. As the saying goes, women make rules for Betas that are broken by Alphas. She is making these rules for the average guys she meets on dating apps to "qualify" them for a future of beta bucks working for a dead bedroom. It's also her flexing her social muscles online: "Look at all the demands I have! I'm important relative to the pretty women who aren't as demanding as me!"
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5h ago
I've told this story before, but several years ago my wife and I were fighting, and she said something like "you probably only stay because you don't have any other options", and I snapped back "there's a whole world full of options out there, including being alone, and right now you're making that option look really good!'
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 3h ago
If more men learned to appreciate the peace and solitude that accompany aloneness, the institution of marriage would be in serious trouble.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4h ago
My High School reunions are a wonderful source of insights. Some of the girls turned out to be super nice and were giving me eyes. My wife picked up on this and I received royal treatment for months afterwards. To my wife's credit, she isn't just sticking with me because I have other choices like a child who wants a toy because some other kid looked at it. There's something to be said for history. She's known me as long as she knew any of her relatives or friends up to the point I met her.
Despite Tony Soprano's famous quote: "Remember when is the lowest form of conversation" https://youtu.be/j9kL3it5cFI?t=63
Our memories and long term ties, healthy ones (even if imperfect) is one of the gifts of aging although for some people with "baggage", such as many bitter women I encounter on X, a lack of wisdom can make memories into a form of torment, even otherwise good ones that most of us would be happy to have.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4h ago
I never felt the urge to go to those.