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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9h ago Stickied

Someone please post this to the Reddit version of the site since I am unable to and it drives traffic to the site, thank you, Merry Christmas (week).

Regarding flair: She's asking some Big Questions but was considering putting her in Leftovers or even WAATGM in the Making. If someone desires to reflair, I shan't be heartbroken.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7h ago Stickied

She's asking some Big Questions

The flair "The Big Question" is about the question the subreddit and forum are named after: "Where Are All The Good Men?" (and its variants). More info here.

This one is asking how to be more approachable. She's very pretty for 36, but is having troubles. She doesn't realize or understand that men have adapted to the demands women have made to leave them alone.

She posted this video because she feels rejected. To women, "looking approachable" and "smiling" and "showing obvious (in their own heads) interest" is shooting their shot, and if the man doesn't take the bait, the woman feels rejected. She probably doesn't consciously realize this, but she's most likely really more interested in getting validation than advice. She's hoping the comments will just be "you're so pretty! It's his loss!"

The advice I'd give her is the following:

look, the culture has shifted thanks to all the complaining and caterwauling your sisters have done for the last few decades, especially from the PoundMeToo movement onward. Men have mostly decided that approaching women just isn't worth the risk. Most men will do everything they can do to avoid interacting with or being alone with a strange woman or a female coworker. Thanks to all the false accusations that have disrupted innocent men's lives, from the Mattress Girl incident to Justice Brett Kavanaugh to Johnny Depp to Doordash Girl, and many others that weren't as highly publicized, men have adapted to prevent such shenanigans.

What this means for you, is that looking coy and interested is no longer enough. You are going to have to initiate the conversation. You are going to have to tell him you'd like to get to know him better. You are going to have to let him know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're interested, and a smile just isn't enough, especially as you get older.

She likely wouldn't listen, and very likely would abhor the very idea that she should take any action past what she already has. She'd probably try to label me an "incel" even though I've been married longer than she's been a legal adult and fucking since before she finished puberty, and would probably be the kind of guy she'd try her shit on at a store until she saw my ring (it has happened to me a few times).

Nah, she'll continue to post videos like that, because most women want validation and reassurance over real advice that involves any effort or change on their part. After all:

effort is a tool of the patriarchy!

polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 7h ago

I'm amused at how words mean different things to them. She asks for "help" but she wouldn't, and quite likely has refused, to take it in the past. The answer is simple: She has to make an actual effort and she doesn't want to do that. It's not just the effort she's dodging accountability on, but also the manipulative game of transactional relationships: If he approaches then she can demand he go through further hoops, shit tests, and paid dinner dates (on him.)

Men were told for decades we could expect NOTHING from women anymore we didn't earn. We want her to cook our meals or clean our homes? We better pay ALL of the bills then (including shopping sprees!) "Jane, his wife!" https://youtu.be/tTq6Tofmo7E?list=RDtTq6Tofmo7E&t=40

Absent a DeLorean time machine, she is not entitled to 1950's behavior from men anymore. There are so many reasons why the 1950's is dead, and feminism is just one of the perpetrators that killed it and peed on the remains.

Not only that, but she's a Leftover and.a Heightist (which, don't want to get into a flamewar over, but Heightist Leftover should perhaps be a flair category of its own).

I chuckle at her attitude that she "invites" men to approach her by smiling in their line of sight. "I'll let you do what I want if you qualify". She's past her prime wanting prime men with options to jump through hoops.

NOBODY has any mercy or pity towards men who refuse to improve themselves yet want relationships, much less prime relationships with women.

"How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?" "But I HAD breakfast!"

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6h ago

Heightist

I took her comment of "taller than me" as "bonus!" rather than "he met some minimum arbitrary requirement".

My wife is also 5' 10", and she realized early on that if she restricted herself to only men taller than herself, that she's eliminating a lot of decent men for something kind of stupid. Additionally, she also realized she was competing against the petite little women for the same men. She's smarter than most women, and has dated men shorter than her (her longest relationship before me was with a 5' 7" man), but when pressed admits that she still prefers taller than herself deep down.

So back to the woman in the video: it seemed to me that she mentioned it as a nice bonus in the man's favor, rather than as a "he met my requirements".

She's still a bit of an idiot.

polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4h ago

I appreciate what you're saying, but this "bonus" statement reminds me of the "settling" attitude: "I don't REQUIRE men to earn more than me, but it's a bonus" and then if he doesn't, she's lukewarm about him.

Here's the interesting thing about hypergamy whether income or height: As women become taller or more successful, and they regard men who are shorter/less wealthy than them as unmasculine by default, doesn't that make them necessarily "masculine" as they become successful or taller?

Let's turn this around: If a man wanted a woman who was shorter or earned less than him so he could dominate her, I can hear the shrieking of the womanists out there about him being a psycho but what are men supposed to feel in relationships? To be tall and successful to be disposable bodyguards and ATM machines?

Being successful and powerful is a good thing, particularly if you're male, because you can lead a good life: Afford good things but even at home, men don't want to be powerful simply to enjoy peace and happiness in his own crib. Hence why the "strong and independent" women are confused by the dynamic that apparently the men in their league, or rarely higher, are not interested in being challenged as to whether he's "intimidated" by her?

I liken this model that strong, independent women have for masculinity to the running joke in The Pink Panther films of Inspector Clouseau asking his assistant Kato to continual stalk him to "keep him on his toes" with often hilarious results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu1RZaFnkKs

Basically, if a woman wants to be feminine and dominated by a man, she can do this for nearly ANYONE, really. The question is, do they REALLY want to in their current mental state-of-mind?

mattyanon TRP Endorsed 8h ago

Translation: "What can I do to change without actually changing anything or doing anything - please tell me I don't need to change a thing and tell me that I'm already perfect".

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7h ago

Pretty much what I said, but more succinct.

It's so obvious once you're able to see it!

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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.

In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.

Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.

But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.

Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.

The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.

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