Sorry, I've been off the forums for a while due to life getting busy :-)

Thanks for tagging me! I've crossposted to our reddit site.

Although, I have to say, I should resist being labelled our resident guru on Indian chicks... the vast majority of women I've dated have been anything but Indian. I find it's easier, not to mention they're less crazy (admittedly a low bar).

Heck, not to humble brag, but blue eyed blonde all-American types end up chasing me, for the exact reason this woman chases European men: I'm exotic to them, and even if they don't snag me as an LTR, they can live out their rebellious phase before becoming a born-again tradthot or whatever they decide they need to do to find a white billy beta.

I feel like every person in a multicultural environment does this: we're drawn to what isn't common, and so plenty of women (and men) date outside their race. Some commit to it, and others do it as a "phase" before settling down with someone from their race / culture who will be an easier fit.

The only difference is ability: ask those loyal Indian men if they'd like to have a ride in the hay with an American cheerleader with big tits, and they'd jump at the opportunity. But men aren't the gatekeepers of sex, so, unless they work to become a HVM, they never get a chance.

FWIW, I understand that I am a specific type of fetish object for white or American women (I won't go into details to keep from doxxing myself), and once I threaded that needle (unbeknownst to me at the time; I was just pursuing my own interests and goals), it was like the gates opened up :-)

It's the same of the stereotype of white women chasing Tyrone: they're not chasing all black men, just a specific type: the tatt'ed out thug just out of prison with multiple baby mamas and anger management issues. Ask them to date an educated Black man with a good job who doesn't put his girlfriends in the hospital, and a lot of them will go cold.

In fact, I think we had a post in the old reddit days where black women were saying they wouldn't go out with Michael B. Jordan, because he wasn't thug enough. That's right, he may have a 1-in-a-million physique, be a millionaire globally famous superstar, but because there are not stories out there of him getting into drunken bar fights or having restraining orders filed against him by battered ex-gf's, lots of women find him lacking (tbf, I'm sure he's not lacking for attention from other women).

This woman has a specific fetish object she's pursing, the European man. Note, this doesn't mean all European men.

1. European men are generally richer than Indians (overall average income levels), and have a higher standard of living. So she wants a rich European to give her the champagne and caviar lifestyle that every instagram model around the world pushes.

2. Europeans are generally taller on average (hello Scandinavia!).

3. They are more "charming". What she means, is that she's watched romantic comedies from Hollywood all her life, and that has become her definition of how a relationship is supposed to start and be sustained. Obviously, relationships are highly culture-bound. But she doesn't want the Indian version of romance that Indian men are familiar with (at least not until she's ready to "settle down"). She's watched too many American rom-coms and she wants that fantasy, damnit. European men, being western are more familiar with western rom-com tropes. So they're more able to provide that than Indian men who never learned those dating rules.

Even American women who go to Europe seek out their own fetish of European men: they're more "cultured" than American guys, "refined", "charming", etc. Because ever since they were toddlers, they watched films of average American girls finding themselves dating European princes and rich, aristocratic heirs. America is a young country founded by exiles who couldn't make it in other countries. No matter their status today, if you dig 5-10 generations back from anyone in America, you'll find someone who was thrown out of another country and huddled on a rat-infested boat to get here. If you pleasure yourself to Bridgerton every night and want to tie yourself to a glorious long history full of drama and intrigue, an American man won't do, no matter how much richer they are. You need to fuck a European, I guess...

Here's a great Onion article about the phenomenon: https://archive.is/QD1r2

But here's the thing: men who are fetish objects quickly realize that fact. And they might play along when they want pussy on the cheap. But men -- just like fetishized women -- want to be seen as a real person, and so they reserve LTRs, marriage, etc. for someone who can see them for them. Just like our Italian hero in the Onion article, it's clear these European men are using the OP to satisfy their own urges and nothing more. At best, she might be okay with that, because deep down, she knows she doesn't compete with white European women (the Hollywood media thing bites both ways) so HVM European men don't want to marry her. At worst, her whole post is a cope about "no really, being fucked and chucked by a bunch of European men who constantly broke my heart hasn't left me an emotionally scarred mess. It was empowering!"

cc: @polishknight