Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Jesus - looking at that human trash in the picture makes me wonder why anyone would meet her 'up there' ............in the dumpster
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
"Woe is me, I guess I don't meet this crusty biker moll's standard, I will just have to try and live with myself as best as I can without her in my life... well anyway..."
As for why I called her a biker moll, if you saw a tatted up woman like this 30 odd years ago, chances are she would be a biker moll, and the advice was to never mess with one as it could lead to bad consequences, and that advice still holds true today.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Imagine if the roles were reversed. (Man u)p high. Then the wage gap nonsense would be spouted by the woman.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
I just call it the "whine gap", because no matter what, women keep whining.
As we know, we're at a stage in this society that hands a lot of power and benefits to women, so they naturally have their heads up their asses about it. This is reversing though, economics doesn't give a shit, when they lose jobs and then the tax paid benefits are harder to come by because more people draw on them, at the same time the taxable class (mostly men) are "going flat" and doing the minimum to survive, something a woman will never do pre-emptively -- then we'll see some interesting changes.
We're nearly there, I'd say we're in the late 2006 to early 2007 stage of the current recession. If the Fed bungles it enough, it will be a full-blown depression.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
It will end up being "I was young and naive, I made a mistake, marry me now".
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3w ago
What about standards for yourself? Oh right. That's a tool of the patriarchy, my bad guys.
Justanaverageguy 3w ago
I promise you she walks around like her shit doesn’t stink. I bet she’s also on every “are we dating the same guy” site on Facebook trashing every man that gets posted. Meanwhile I bet her body count is in the 100’s.
PoopBeast 3w ago
I think this notion can be roundly dismissed with 3 easily-observable facts:
1) Men are literally at the pinnacle of everything remotely worth doing. Not just physical things where they have a strength advantage. All the best chefs, entertainers, entrepreneurs, scientists - the list goes on - are men. Under typical circumstances, men MUST be the best, so when they start falling behind, it's because they don't care anymore, which is more an indictment of YOU.
2) You need discriminatory government programs to put you at parity with us.
3) You all think you're 10s. What are the odds that the gender whose every member believes she's a perfect10 is capable of the honesty and introspection necessary to actually self improve?
...and that last one actually made me think of a 4th observable, which is that I don't see many women self improving. I see plenty of men going to the gym and at least trying to learn about self-improvement. All women do today is sit back and have a pussy.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3w ago
What about all of those self-help books? Or their many, many discussions about how all the men around them are just not up to their level - while they're pretty, successful, witty and everybody around them agrees that her being single is a mystery? All of that is probably even better than, you know, actually doing stuff to improve as a person.
ZZoMBiE13 3w ago
Don't forget, men are also better at being women. Just look at all the medals and accolades trans women are winning all over the globe.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
Bruce Jenner, Glamour's Woman of the Year 2015!
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Standards for thee but not for me. She is perfect just the way she is.
The woman in the infographic only got up high on the shoulders of her father; (checks again) oh wait, Nevermind.
No-Stress-Cat 3w ago
Women's ridiculous standards also price them out of the market, where MEN determine a woman's value. In the end, they'll be the ass end of the joke when men make YouTube videos of them crying on TikTok post 30's about how they were lied to and they really want a man. They can eat shit and die for all I care.
Justanaverageguy 3w ago
Trashy tattoos and a bad colored hair job just screams high standards!
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
lol.
And that pic really shows the lines and such forming. She's through if not impacting the wall as we speak. Tats look like shit when women age, because they lose a lot of their collagen and other suppleness, so it looks like a wet newspaper wrinkled on the ground in the rain.
There's this one spinster I see around town sometimes, she has arm tats and all that, full silver hair so up there in age. Its pretty horrific. I'd cover up, but she obviously is still living in the delusion that her ink looks okay to display. It looks like an eye test chart after a turpentine spill.
Justanaverageguy 3w ago
The problem with older women is they get more delusional the older they get with every passing year. They bring more baggage or their past baggage and traumas manifest the older they get. I knew a girl who was 33 when I met her to 38 when I left her life. The change in her was something to see. She became bitter each year and she became more demanding and expected better men the older she got, she tried to get with me but I was like nah I’m good.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
She comes with hazmat placarding already plastered across enough of her surface to make it impossible to miss. And worse, they're tittoos, which no woman that is even remotely described as classy ever has.
Wears huge sunglasses to conceal the spiderweb of wrinkles around her eyes, but they cannot hide the wrinkles on her face or the graying hair and shitty dye job. A tactic nearly as common, played out, and easily detected as using ye olde "Myspace angle" in an attempt to hide how fat one is.
Thinks that she's somehow a prize and that it's not her choices that are the real issue in her outcomes. In and of itself a one stop shop of red flags.
Is malding that only trash tier men are bothering with her. Well, sweaty, it's because the men diligent enough to have made something of themselves know there are better uses of their 401K or other investments than providing for her comfort. Like taking a massive shit on them and setting them on fire - far more productive. She's the dating equivalent of a salvage title at best.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Anyone waiting "up there", with or without valid claim, lacks incumbency. Incumbency is used here to specifically denote the quality of being together and sharing one's journey.
Women that imagine themselves up there, the prize, lacks this quality, and hence, in my personal world view, not worth the recognition of marriage or a long term relationship or anything really. They are trophies, and trophies are there to be p**d on once, and handed down ( No one keeps the NHL Stanley cup forever, it is there to be returned so that the next guy can have his turn) or put in a box (no one marries their Olympic medal)
This is where I am more radical than an usual redpiller (who is happy to rotate plates) and also an usual tradcon (who is happy to hand over his life to a woman as long as she's a tattoo free debt free virgin or at least can pretend to be close to such).
All discussions of single moms aside: good point.
This is why I walk my own path am not interested in marrying or going in a relationship un-incumbent and/or washed up woman no matter how much psyop is done by them to impose on us (or at least me) that marriage with such specimens and/or children is somehow meaningful.
u/PolishKnight may I steal the post for my personal blog ?I shall not mention your name to protect privacy, Ill address you as "an informed person".
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
Feel free to share the post including my pseudonym. I expect that this post can be looked up via search engines.
I'll add my own personal observation regarding this meme (I've seen it shared before on facebook in general)
This notion of women as "the prize" is romantic chivalry that goes back to the 17th century or so when knights who had won battles and social status, but little money, competed for the daughters of noblemen who gifted them huge tracts of land (and serfs (legal slaves) to work that land). MOST women were NOT prizes. Women married whom their father chose for them. I'm chuckling about the term "arranged marriage" when, about 2 centuries or so ago, that was the norm hence it would just be called "marriage." There's a cool series of art that I saw a year or so ago (scroll down to all the classical artwork. Lots of good stuff)
https://byronsmuse.wordpress.com/tag/sad-veiled-bride/
The HORRORS! Women were betrothed to men who were old and physically undesirable because they were rich. Romantic love was, er, romanticized even back as far as 400 years ago in fiction where poor but "noble" (in spirit) would win a rich woman's heart over. One of the best operas is The Marriage of Figaro, 1786 by Mozart. FYI, Opera is a GREAT date but I went alone much of the time simply because I love Opera and Ballet.
So here's the funny part: romanticized hypergamy fiction was largely directed towards... MEN! This notion of rich, pretty women only marrying old men with money was something that young men found repulsive and hoped to woo them away such as Romeo and Juliet. Romantic love in western classic literature was often featured with a musician wooing beautiful (and rich) women. This clip in Animal House is classic and will be watched for centuries from now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhI6H8vW8dA
Modern romantic concepts are a product of feminism which is utterly dependent upon the welfare state and affirmative action. Without both of those, women's so-called equality lasts about as long as civilization in zombie films and TV shows such as The Walking Dead.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Thank you
Notwithstanding my personal blue pill ideals, my neural circuitry fights back.
If we were to accept that the entire IndoEuropean Human strain came from the Yamnayas, there the issue is a bit more complicated. There are records that the Indo-Aryan young boys will be expelled from their tribes, and they have to fend for themselves etc.
Then again, there are other elements that mixed with the Yamnaya - the Turkic grassland people who quite literally expected their women to go to war with a bow and arrow with the young men who has no status (so that both can develop together and the woman can give birth to a strong child ). This was to happen without compromising the femininity and submission of the woman (recall the discussion of long hair on women in the other thread . the turkic women in the battlefield still kept their hair long.)
Now, may be part of this period still has an imprint on some of the male population (which includes me)?
Just like folk stories of small humans in south Asia perhaps is a still lingering imprint of collective memory of Homo Floresiensis, could our search for an incumbent female partner may be remnants of those days`?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
Consider one of the great shaming ploys used by modern women to call men "boys". What Does This Mean about the person using such a invective? The term "boy" means child so these women are therefore showing disdain and disgust with CHILDREN. How can "boys" grow to be healthy men if a society regards their youthful forms with disgust? It's almost as if women expect grown men to pop naturally out of their wombs with no support meaning they don't want a society that gives growing men any resources for the obligations they desire.
I blame not only classic tales of chivalry (mostly in the west) but also superhero tropes combined with feminism and other childish tropes.
Anyhoo, me personally, it's strange that my frame from early on was that I had no "instinct" to be a protector/provider or "bad boy" to "earn" sexual attention from women. Perhaps I bought into this "equality" nonsense that women needed to be adults and responsible for themselves (not just overgrown sexualized girls) but also thought in larger terms that, aside from the disabled, everyone has to literally earn a living. I strive to teach this to my daughter: ANYTHING she has she needs to know someone had to work for it. Someone grew the food she eats.
My wife is a handful, but she's better than most perhaps because she spent a lot of time growing up on a farm and during the USSR so she doesn't take things for granted as much as women in the west do.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Oh great post I am gonna answer.
I think there might be three angles to it
Plausible deniability: Men (especially American - old school European traditional Feudal Europe treated boys with a bit more respect) like to assert their manhood on younger men by dismissing them as boys. You see this very often in workplace. Boomers will not listen to you, just because you are young. They effectively sabotage you, and women just co-opt this.
Disdain for men The word Boy used to mean a servant. So may be that over time broadened its meaning as individuals that are beneath women, while women pursue the bigger better masters?
I have to bring in Lucy, Lady Duff-Gordon, famously who denied to leave her husband's side on a sinking titanic.
She writes: Even in that terrible moment I was filled with amazement at nearly all the American wives who were leaving their husbands without a word of protest or regret, scarce of farewell. They have brought the cult of chivalry to such a pitch in the States that it comes as second nature to their men to sacrifice themselves and to their women to let them do it..
The woman worshipping and one sides Chivalry is an American thing.
Slovakian kings and landlords had protocols to send their daughters (princesses) to nunnery to be raised in humility and poverty lest they become monsters, before they could join the court. Indeed, not all of them did, but at least the protocol existed.
English lass were measured in 4-Bs:
But when a modern American (or indeed a German) woman speaks about being a "princess", she isnt thinking in these metrics.
However, USA is not alone. There are two more: namely Enlightened France and Italy, who are comparable in their woman worship.
Neither do I. I strongly feel suffocated to imagine myself pigeonholed either way.
This sort of lack of bravado has caused me to become a suspect in the eyes of American boomers and I lost a few professional contacts who tried to become too close (in their words, cultivate a personal relationship beyond work - because they wanted to teach me how "American relations work" - incidentally this is why i am weary of people who try to "teach me" things), and then found out that I dont quite follow the "Do X get woman Pay mortgage" thing, but looking back, it was better that way
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
What I think happened in the west, I think, is that normal men were aspiring to appear more "noble" to earn general social status (not just with women) so being a "gentleman" became normalized and this included holding open women's doors and kissing hands similar to how people followed clothing fashions of the past. Note that it's been mentioned that clothing fashion largely ended at Y2K but a new one began: tattoos and piercings. We now have distinctive tattoo and piercing fashions by decade. If you see a woman with a tramp stamp but not much else, she probably has scheduled a colonoscopy.
Sometime between about 1940 to 1990 or so, chivalry became subconsciously about, well, begging to get laid. Men were expected to believe in this code AND enforce it against other men, lest women deny them sex. This is when men shamed other men who challenged an orthodoxy of being a servant to women for transactional sex.
What was astonishing during that era, and something I totally stumbled upon (I'm not a super genius) is that women find beta-males repulsive so RP thinking increasingly was a net positive with women.
There is no need to shame BP men in that women punish BP men more than we ever could.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Interesting take on American gynocentricity. You may be on to something I think.
As an aside, I just so happen to know some of the Gordon-Duff family -as solid a line of British gentle folk as you might care to find. I can tell you they are not typically English. They are scots gentry. Lady Lucy married into the family but scots gentry will usually get out of a scrape (its practically in their cattle raiding, hot trodding DNA) and that's what her husband did in the first boat off the Titanic, only part full, giving the men fivers as he went and Coutts cheques later on. Chivalry may exist in hollywood depictions of scots gentry but I have found all those I heave met to be solid pragmatists (good types too I might add).
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Oh, that's interesting.
Lucy herself was an English lass, no? Indeed the husband allegedly paid his way out, but I can't overlook Lady Lucy's comments. I don't know if she was doing that as a PR stunt, but old English memoirs include tales of similar deeds of the wives who would actually share her husbands troubles.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
"These guys should never procreate and not have access to us"
Well, when I look at the picture, the second part of the sentence works just fine for me.
What this little cartoon needs is an update in 10 and 20 years. 10 years later -"Come on rescue me I am stuck on top of this pillar. Where have all the heroes gone?!" 20 years later "I fell off the pillar by reaching down to a guy and feel very humiliated. It wasn't worth climbing down here but I just can't seem to get back up there any more where all the good guys are. Men treat me like they are on the same level as me. They don't know I belong on a pillar"
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
This is an interesting experiment(birth control). Combine it with hyper-selectivity and you have a very different breed of human emerging. We're about 50 years into this so we should start seeing some measurable effects. Something on the order of Romans or British or Spanish taking over a civilization.
I suspect that men like myself will introduce foreign genetics into their home country while excluding the genetics of the women from their home country. This leaves the home country women with only a few home country men that meet their "standards". There is one population where this has already played out: polygynous Mormons. They are plagued with genetic defects. So we should have a lot more genetic defects over time, right?
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
You will see a lot of genetic defects in this woman's country too. I doubt "foreign genetics" can fix this level of delulu, and I doubt her epigenetic history will give birth to a good offspring.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
Why would I want access to dog shit?!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
The tattoo on her chest reminds me of this scene with Janice in the Sopranos with her own Rolling Stones tattoo on her boob. I suppose that Janice was following around the Stones back in the late 70's banging roadies and got the tattoo. What are nursing homes going to look like 40 years from now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iicxbxHqZ88&t=91s
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
I had forgotten about that. It's been ages since I watched that show.
I have to laugh at how she ended up with the NiceGuy mobster, who whipped Tony's ass when his instinct to White Knight overcame his better judgment (and Tony was actually right lol).
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Exactly which "standards" does the depicted black woman excel at?
Every single modern black woman I've seen is a sad excuse not only for a woman, but for a human. And I'm not just saying that because I'm racist - I think Kevin (RIP) would agree with me.
Let me know which standards/virtues/qualities/morals we're judging humanity by here, so I can contritely admit how far below the standard I am, and then abjectly make obeisance just like Kamala.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
not only are black women a disaster, black men are the most blue pilled I have ever seen (I am talking about the US). They seem to ruin each other - black women run around being entitled princesses because black men are so blue pilled.
Kevin was no different - he was all talk. The second he met a reasonably attractive (only ok) single mom, he ponied up the cash like a blue pilled prince. Literally paying her to be 'his girlfriend'. what a jerk.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
How DARE you talk smack about Saint Kevin?!
Heh, only reason I watch him anymore is my wife likes to watch him bash trashy women, so we watch clips on dates. She's that based.
But yeah, most Indian guys I know are pretty BP too. The wife generally runs the family and always gets her way - or else.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
3/4th indian here, but with a Latam passport now. That part has always been a point of collision between many Indians and me.
In fact, India happens to be the original me-too country. There, you can go to jail for looking wrongly at a woman.and marital law is a million times worse than USA. Infact, if you follow the money trails, you can find some money laundering mechanisms in place, where organization "donate" to feminists, in exchange these feminists buy courses and material from the same organization. Not gonna post details lest I get implicated in any manner.
The government in some states pays women just to exist.
This has few effects:
Some Indian men are so tired, that they are very willing to pick up leftover westerns. You will see a lot of such events where leftover western women go to Africa to get you know what and to India to get married.
Other men will just shut down.