Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
- 9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Ah, so when you were young, hot, and the world was your oyster, dismembering your offspring in order to keep partying was on the table. But now you really can’t afford to pass up on the chance when you get fertilized.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
AKA she is at the Buzzer Beater stage of her life, women like this will reluctantly become single mothers so they don't fully fail as a woman, after all locking down a man and having babies are the two key things a woman should easily be able to do since traditionally, most women who reached adulthood successfully did both.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3w ago
I'll choose: "I played too many games for too many goddamned years" for $300, Alex...
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
What a mess. its scary just to read her contradictory thoughts on condoms. "I don't want to be responsible for the decision. Its all a man's problem. I am up for whatever my man brings me me. just so long as I am not making any choices"
What the betting she would give him unceasing complaint and misery if he did knock her up.
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Good pointing this out. However, I will remind all that we should give more value to what women do over what they say.
In this case, I believe she is open to sex without condom "when ever the man wants" but doesn't want to say it as she might sound baby crazy and frighten a man away.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Yeah that is true. Scary as hell. She doesn't want to be calling the shots, just responding as a passive victim. Run boy run.
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
The biggest red flag for me is when she describes two months of dating as a serious relationship.
This leads me to believe she was trying to date above her tier. She was far more invested than him.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3w ago
Jesus. Where to start. There's so many common complaints here but I'll focus on one: the guy who peace'd out after she blew up at him. I don't know exactly what she brought up, how she did it, and exactly how upset she got about it. But my suspicion is it was a lot more of an over-reaction than she is letting on.
But regardless, it points to the fundamental truth that women like this refuse to acknowledge: at her age, the power balance has shifted. Young men, or men who pursue young women, know painfully well the song-and-dance routine that we have to learn to keep a woman entertained and interested through many dates before she finally decides we're worthy of sex/a relationship/another date. Women in their 20s constantly talk about rejecting a guy for basically no reason at all ("eh, I wasn't feeling it.") And they think that that's a God-given right, as if there is no compromise between what you want, what your partner wants, and how those two things can be balanced.
So now the shoe is on the other foot. She brought up something and argued with him about it. He decided to bolt. I'm pretty sure the her behavior here was probably way more cringe-worthy than guys who go on dates only to be ghosted because "the spark wasn't there". The difference is that, in her 20s, men were the ones who would have to walk on eggshells, suppress their needs, put her first, etc. etc. And either they did it or she dropped them.
And now, as she nears 40, she's surprised to find that men can have similar expectations. That a woman puts his needs first, cuts out the drama and bullshit, and agrees to have a relationship on his terms, or else he's out. And she's surprised.
She goes on to say that if this guy were to change his mind and want to get back, she'd reject him because she "need[s] to be emotionally safe in [her] relationships." which is woman-ese for "I expect my guy to tolerate all of my bullshit, drama, damage, and every other form of baggage, war wounds, and scars that I carry from my 40 years of life on this Earth, and never call me out on any of it." This, in response to a guy who didn't abuse her, didn't threaten her, but simply left when he felt this relationship was no longer right for him. There is no in-between, or any introspection to think maybe, especially with the changing power dynamics, it is on her to compromise, or look at what she brought up and decide whether that annoyance was truly worth detonating a relationship for. Nope. If he can't handle her throwing a shit fit about how he stacked the dishes in the dishwasher 2 weeks ago, then she can't feel emotionally "safe".
Meanwhile, guys are told to man up all the time, to the point where guys are genuinely counselled (on this forum and others), to not even show sadness when a parent or loved one dies, much less exhibit grief, sadness, anger, or indeed any emotion for less life-altering events, due to numerous stories of women leaving men during times of stress in their lives.
So in the calculus of these women's minds, guys need to be big, strong, and silent about anything going on in their lives, upto and including the death of a parent, major health issues, job loss, etc, etc, etc., maybe allowed to take a day to process their emotions and then "get over it" and get back to being a plowhorse. Meanwhile, women can lose their shit about the most trivial and asinine stuff, and guys need to just take their abuse in order to make sure their women feel "emotionally safe".
Again, that shit might fly if you're a hot 25 year old with a gaggle of men doing whatever they can to get in your pants. But when you're pushing 40, it's the other way around. Guys want you to cut out all of the bullshit drama in your life, or at the very least, deal with that stuff by talking to your girlfriends or whatever, and bring peace and calmness and tranquility to the relationship, or else they'll go find someone else. And guess what? That deal will only get even more one-sided as time goes on (unless you're willing to drastically lower your standards, which of course she won't do because she's a total catch because she checks notes has hobbies...)
Silly_birb_returns 3w ago
Hoe_math on YouTube described such women as morally retarded, they can only think about what they can get from other people, never about what people expect from them.
Here she is the classic example of woman surprised that "one mistake" ended her relationship, without considering how much she was taking from him and how she was giving nothing to him but lazy starfish sex with a post wall woman.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
In other countries being a hot 25yr old doesn't excuse bad behaviour. It's only in the West.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Saw a video recently, forget exactly where, but it was an asian girl and her boyfriend. She had found out that he never had a proper birthday celebration.
So she brings out a party hat, puts it on him, (they seem to be at a casual restaurant or takeaway place), kisses him, and then gives him a gift, hugging him and smiling.
My god man, my fucking god.
A simple act of kindness, and that is worth more than all the gold on the planet.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
I read a story about how 13 yo Kurt Russell starred with Charles Bronson on the set of "Guns of Diablo". Kurt heard it was Charles' birthday so he gave him a present. Charles quietly accepted it. The backstory is that Charles Bronson had grown up poor in coal mining Pennsylvania and never got a birthday present before.
Kurt said, "The assistant director came to me and said Charles wants to see you in his dressing room. I knocked on his door. It opened and he looked down, but not at me. He said, 'No one has ever given me a birthday gift.' "When my birthday came up, Bronson got us both skateboards and we rode around the studio lot. Soon I was told to stop skate-boarding by the studio president. Bronson found out about it, grabbed me and we went into the president's office unannounced. Bronson said to the president, 'Kurt and I are going to ride our boards around the studio.' Bronson turned, I turned, and we walked out of the office. We skate-boarded around the lot from then on and no one said a word."
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Fucking great story, thanks for posting it.
Makes a good start to the weekend.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
True.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 3w ago
My brother's wife gets out of bed in the morning to make his lunch for him while he gets ready for work. She's generally just making him a sandwich, nothing he couldn't do himself, and as she works from home she generally doesn't need to be up and about for a couple hours after that. But she does it anyway because he's her husband and it's a way to demonstrate affection and gratitude.
All it takes is a little effort and consideration on her part and a good man will crawl across broken glass for her. Such simple, almost trivial little things. And yet so heavily resisted by women who so utterly resent the very concept of basic fucking decency.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Thats why it hit hard, because that simple act was such a rarity in an age of 'men are trash' from most women.
You hit it right on the nose. It doesn't take much to fuel a guy's desire to be with a woman, and it seems the women in the west are all resisting this simple thing.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
Let's be clear on this one; the only reason it gets preached here is not because we believe that it is fair or just, it's because we know (some of us from brutally harsh experience) that women will withdraw their affections the second that their hindbrain detects anything that can be interpreted as weakness in a man. Women are the uncaring and ruthless enforcers of that dynamic, and it is up to them and no one else to change it. I'd bet that even Mother fuckin' Theresa got a case of the dries if she ever saw a grown man cry.
To be honest, it's for everyone's benefit that entitled cunts like this weed themselves out of the gene pool.
Old hags have a high risk to crank out deformed, retarded, or otherwise crippled kids assuming they can get pregnant at all.
Also guarantee her economic productivity is nowhere near the level of her male age-peers and now that she's effectively not even got fertility on offer, she's become a Useless Eater.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3w ago
You said it all. I wish I were a fly on the wall when she brought up something that caused [her] to be upset. Was it how he didn't defend her from that mean comment his girl friend made about when they went camping when they were kids, and he should know better than let another woman talk about him intimately? Was it about how he was so unchalant about mentioning not having kids to this couple of friends, when he totally knows having a big family is a dream of hers? And how did she go about it?
Another thing that caught my eyes: the emotionally unstable ones are the ones that want to wife me up. While we all know the kind of bullshit justifications women pull out of their asses to explain how they are single while all her friends have found someone, I find it telling that, by her own admission, only men who are not right on their minds are willing to consider marrying her.
I bet she's a foodie too. And loves travelling, laughing, and breathing air.
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
The men are not in their right mind, because they (1) are talking to her and (2) are not Chad. What are they thinking?
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Marrying a woman her age isn't exactly the smartest thing a man can do.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
I'll rehash this, and link back to the previous times I discussed this later if I have time and remember to do so.
I cried in front of my wife when my father died a few years ago. I didn't give 2 shits about anything but my grief in that moment.
To her credit, she joined me in grieving and helped console me.
There are several factors at play.
1) I was and had been doing my part, and I don't mean the traditional blue pill idea of a husband's part. I had (for lack of a better term) built up sufficient alpha/arousal equity/cred over the years. One hiccup wasn't going to derail me. There's a big difference between a strong man being legitimately wracked with grief after normally being unaffected by life's usual stressors (and we'd already been married for close to 12 years at that point), and a guy a woman barely knows and/or has seen crying over something small (or worse, more than once).
2) the woman has to make a choice. I could still tell there was that instinctive decrease in her attraction to me, but she chose to work past it and again, it was temporary. All the women I've posted as examples of the other kind, who "got the ick" or even broke up with their men, chose to run with an instinct instead of making a reasoned decision. Just like we men are capable of recognizing instinctive urges and suppressing them if necessary, women can do the same. Most of them choose not to.
Jules 3w ago
That's a great point. You might say doing that is what makes us human - the difference between us and animals is the ability to reflect, and suppress instinctive behaviour, if necessary.
Like you said, men (have to) do it all the time. If there's a hot 18 year old walking by, of course there is a part in my (lizard) brain that screams 'fertile female ahead! Go pound her and and fill her with your seed, we need to spread our genes!', just the same as women are incentivized by biology to collect the best genes for their offspring, while at the same time finding a provider to take care of the kid(s) and themselves (and yes, the provider of provisions does not necessarily has to be the provider of the genes, I don't think I need to tell anyone here about AF/BB)
However, if I went out and banged every hot chick, my fiancee wouldn't be too thrilled about that. And as a human being, I am able to resist the temptation of fleeting desire and look at the big picture. Sadly, holding back on instant gratification, and thinking before taking action is getting less and less common in today's youth - especially among female KWEENS.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
I would add not only "reflect and suppress" but even redirect and redefine.
The same testosterone that drives us to violence and aggression is invaluable for motivation and initiative. The notion of modern chivalry of providing and protecting for a woman is a product of medieval romanticism, not instinct. My pseudonym pays homage to the Polish Knight hussars of the 17th century who certainly were chivalrous towards "ladies" whose nobleman fathers had huge tracts of land to hand out in dowries. The rest were serving wenches. Wonderful film (based upon the Nobel Prize winning novel) "With Fire and Sword".
What's astonishing, actually, is how modern femininity is the opposite of the romantic chivalrous ideal of what women were portrayed as: Chaste. Nurturing. Empathic. SELFLESS. Restrained.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 3w ago
I find it mildly amusing that you emphasize "selfless." I'd have put the emphasis on empathetic.
Not that either of us is wrong, of course. I suspect it's simply down to different experiences.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
I just finished "The Wisdom of Psychopaths" so I chose the wording carefully. Psychopaths do have empathy although it's a twisted form such as women being reviled by the emotional vulnerability of men. I'm reminded of this scene in A Clockwork Orange:
https://youtu.be/bcbQ1RIStus?t=28
The chivalrous romanticist image of women was selfless as mothers (putting their children's needs ahead of their own) but also their male relatives mending and making their own clothes rather than spending money that could go towards other things, etc.
My maternal grandmother, RIP, co-operated a family grocery store which gave store credit to coal miners (and often wasn't paid back), raised the two children in an apartment above said store, AND founded and ran her own charity "New Mothers" where the local mothers in the neighborhood assisting mothers with newborns who would be overwhelmed with nighttime feeding, diaper changes, and so on while the husband was off at work.
I often thought of her when dating corporate nuns who were sullen and bitter (well, I can't blame them feeling they had to settle for me) watching to see if I was going to pay for a dinner date and what kind of car I drove and how disparate their worldview was from her.
Last month I decided to make a special visit to find her grave after a half century and asked the local Polish church for their plot map but was unable to find it. I left a few candles for others though. I feel bad but I hadn't been back there for decades. It's the thought that counts, I hope, and I lit a candle for her in the church.
“I am most anxious to enlist everyone who can speak or write to join in checking this mad, wicked folly of ‘Women’s Rights,’ with all its attendant horrors, on which her poor feeble sex is bent, forgetting every sense of womanly feelings and propriety. Feminists ought to get a good whipping. Were woman to ‘unsex’ themselves by claiming equality with men, they would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection.” -- Queen Victoria
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Bluff called. Bet you can't do that for even a day. Women are generally bereft of hobbies and have nothing else to do in their free time except check their messages/statuses/DMs.
But please, go ahead and completely remove yourself completely. No one cares.
Don't let us stop you. Stop threatening to give up and do it. No one cares.
These are literally what defines a woman as successful or worthless. You know this, which is why you are bringing it up. All women know this. The women you are jealous of were able to lock down a man for life and "create life" with him, which is literally what women were created to do.
You're a worthless woman who can only hurt men. We'd be happy if you stay away from men the rest of your life. You are an unsuccessful woman and would make a bad wife.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
could not have said it better myself.
Women have a really easy, simple clear role in society. It's also rewarding and natural to have children.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3w ago
*laments generalizations about women her age*
*Makes post confirming them anyway*
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
She forgot 2:
These are among the more dangerous vices because they're so insidious (and related to each other, although distinct) Laziness is difficult to identify because you did literally nothing wrong and it's a habit. Laziness is a skill in that someone can find several reasons to NOT do something as if that's an accomplishment. Erwin Rommel even indirectly excused laziness combined with intelligence by making them commanders.
Entitlement is tied up in ego: If you believe you DESERVE something, you equate it to a moral virtue to insist upon it and sometimes this is valid. If we don't stand up for ourselves, who will? When an entitlement is either invalid, or no longer enforceable, it becomes a painful delusion. Actor Kevin Spacey is accused of having groped some young men's bottoms decades ago and after an expensive series of legal challenges and blacklisting, had to sell his luxury home. He's trying to squat in it because he doesn't want to leave and live in a condo.
The notion that women "have a prime" and that this is the leverage they used to demand special treatment from men is something most women have NOT been taught by "society" (the media, school mentors) but also their parents. Sometimes the parents start nagging them at their prime to develop reasonable standards but that's like trying to get a kid to eat their veggies when they're 25. By denying they have a "prime", they can ignore and even celebrate laziness and entitlement. They are forever 21: Gorgeous and pretty "ladies" entitled to "gentlemen" or "real men" which is womanese for a servant.
Understanding we have a "prime" is a fundamental part of our moral, human existence: Someday we get old and die and become dependent upon the kindness of others which is something we should think about before yelling at old people holding us up crossing the street.
I strive to raise my daughter to be a decent human being and share with her the important life lesson that, aside from basic human rights and my and my wife's infinite love for her as her parents, NOBODY out there owes her squat. She will someday have to earn a living like the rest of us and that's a heavy burden she needs to be prepared for.
So many people FAILED this woman including, and especially, HER PARENTS.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
Another great find. Stickying it for now.