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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Friendzone Fiona

I'm upset that guys that I put in the FriendZone end up with someone else
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Lone_Ranger

Posted 1y ago in Friendzone Fiona - Permalink - Locked - 3.9K Views



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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
I never knew they liked me / none of them gave any indication over the years .... and I didn't date any of them when they asked

Literally within one paragraph we are told that none gave any indication of liking, yet they asked her on dates.

If she can self contradict that quickly, I don't believe a word of the rest of it. As always: women communicate to satisfy an agenda, not to tell the truth.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

very good spot matty - easy to miss that because its obscured by the insanity of the rest of her post.

Women talk to enable feels.

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No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Women have 3 paths to choose from in life:

  1. The Wife Path
  2. The Ho Path
  3. The Man Wannabe Path

One leads to a lifetime of happiness. The other two lead to a lifetime of emptiness. Once the choice is made, there is no going back.

You chose wrong, sweet cheeks, you screwed yourself, and there's no take-backsies.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

"I was hyper focused on my new job, and the possibility of pursuing a post graduate degree"

ChatTRP, please translate:'

"When I got out out of uni, I moved to city where nobody knew me, so I was 'anonymous'. You know what young women are like when the eyes of her peers on not on her - it was a green light to finally become the slut that I had always wanted to be. I spent the rest of my 20s going out and getting railed by guys that were far above me in SMV, because I could. I loved the attention of hot guys. I didn't realise that the hot guy were simply down dating for sex, because I have no idea that I am actually rather average. The reason why I think I am hot stuff is because I was able to attract high value guys. By 'able to attract', what I actually mean is that I was able to get their attention for a few hours. As soon as they had actually fucked me, they ghosted me.

Anyway, having spent years as a cum dumpster, its actually very difficult to lower my expectations. I am not remotely interested in average guys, even though I am an average woman. Please help.

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

It is pretty funny that she went to Pound Town and thought she was a princess instead.

Now she's not even worth being a sit-and-spin for most guys. Ahh that warm feeling of karma being visited upon the ignorant.

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oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

You could be right - I lean towards her not having that many situationships though because she doesn’t say anything about guys she wants/wanted or men being shitty.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

I am always suspicious when women say that they didn't settle down when they were young 'because they were so focused on their career'.

This is b/s. I know doctors and lawyers that got married young, and were doing 80 hour weeks.

'Focused on my career' is usually code for focused on getting dick from bad boyz.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

I dated a 33 year old corporate nun virgin but it's entirely possible that she's lying about being too busy with her studies to ride the CC. Either way, she accepts the "patronizing manner that people comfort her by telling her to just wait for the universe to sort it out when she says finding a mate is "beyond her control". She doesn't want to handle rejection or make an effort to find a mate (that's a man's job) even as she's bragging about literally taking a man's job (professional success).

It's funny how she thinks she's doing men a favor by not wasting their time trying to reciprocate the enamored men in her friendzone. In a way, she's right, but she'll need a Marvel Doctor Strange with a magic ring to somehow only get interest from men she's attracted to with her lifestyle.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

The age old excuse from inspins is that they were focused on their career and this is the reason they are single is the biggest lie of them all.

A women that is focused on her career will meet eligble men ALL DAY LONG, EACH AND EVERY DAY. I have worked in financial services all my life, and you would not believe how many people meet their partners at work. IRL interactions in a professional setting is simply the best way to meet partners.

And if her career is in the field that requires degree and / or post graduate, she will have been literally swimming in the largest pool of eligible men for a decade.

The fact that she has not found a partner speaks volumes.

She is a tingles addict.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

IRL interactions in a professional setting WAS simply the best way to meet partners.

The years after #metoo took off quickly ruined the workplace as a space to find yourself a spouse.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

This idea that you can't have a relationship with a person from work is nonsense. You can of course.

those organisations that have a 'no relationships at work' policy are breaking the law, and this has been tested many times in the courts. They don't get to control what you do outside the business. They would love to, but they can't.

People continue to meet their spouses in work settings. Why do you think so many doctors marry each other? and accountants?

If I did a straw poll of all my married friends - it would be something like 85% of them met each other through work.

The spergs on this platform (and others) droning on about 'don't shit where you eat' are getting what they deserve - because they then go to 'bars n clubs' or OLD (even worse).

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Yeah there as usual is a list of common mistakes that women make that end up with them alone:

  • Regarding marriage/commitment as something that they are automatically entitled to with no effort on their end.

  • Holding out for A-tier men when the woman herself is barely C-tier at her apex, and mere aging alone WILL reduce her to D or F-tier, and put her out of the running for the backup to the backup plan men.

  • Attempting to use a male role to increase her attractiveness....to men? And that's before considering one of the innate consequences of the male role is typically having to work until retirement, assuming one gets to retire at all.

None of the above mistakes require being a CC rider, but with Chad's cock a right swipe away in the modern world, many modern women completely crater what little chances they had left by layering that on top like a bukakke facial.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

"Regarding marriage/commitment as something that they are automatically entitled to with no effort on their end."

It's even better than that: Women are raised to believe that men should pay her to have a relationship under any condition (including if the man is handsome). Not only shouldn't she make "an effort" but even provide him with shit tests in order to "prove his worth". "Real men" should know a Queen like her needs to give him the pleasure of making an effort.

Imagine if I told my wife that I walked on her freshly cleaned kitchen floor so she could show off her housekeeping skills. :-)

"Independence" merely means that she has zero gratitude for men living up to her demands because she CAN do it all on her own, but he should "enjoy" doing it for her, as a privilege.

Back to the kitchen floor: Imagine me telling my wife I could clean the floor a lot better, and she needs to step up her game and use TWO mops!

The ONLY thing they have in their toolbox to make us men do doggie tricks is sex treats which become less and less tasty the older we all get. I appreciate that they may be misled because young men will do nearly ANYTHING for those treats and the treats are tasty.

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sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

So she says she constantly is feeling terrible about herself? Ouch.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

Right? How can we make this terrible feeling go away?

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

There are a few things that would help her sort her situation out, but most of the good ones require time travel.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

If only women were allowed to choose good men to marry early on, instead of being forced (by society? the patriarchy? not sure) to make so many bad decisions.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Woman seem to have a hard time placing common sense over following their tingles, and we live in a society where that sort of behaviour is encouraged.

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First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

At the turning point of feminine power and she knows it. She had it, she still has some but its slipping, she is about balanced with men now, if she actually tried, she could get one but she has been waiting for one to come to her and he has not or at least when he did she said no because she had options back then. She hasn't even realised she will have to try and find a partner -like most men do. That's not fair!

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

If I had to guess where the balance of power officially changes over, it’s around age 37. I think at that point, men realize that seriously pursuing her for a lifelong relationship would mean kids would be attempted after 40. And that’s a no go. So now even the B tier of men are not interested. That’s around when her options become just older men and men who stand to benefit financially from a relationship.

So what’s hilarious is that, at 30, I think she still stands to get a man that’s “out of her league”. But she’s so programmed to only want the top men, that even those solid B tier dudes aren’t enough for her.

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NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

A beautiful woman given unlimited attention will acquire a lot of beta orbiters. It's the female equivalent of a harem.

These men worship the ground she walks on, provide validation and moral support for any choice she makes, and hope for scraps of m'lady's attention.

I never even knew they liked me

There is no intention of ever marrying one of these moons, or being physical with them other than the bare minimum required to keep them in orbit.

are all married now

Another woman stealing these orbiters is threatening. It's a lost asset. She never wanted her orbiters to be happy, she wanted them to remain loyal subjects.

I'm not walking around avoiding men or turning down dates

I believe this because she is blind to the men who have been interested in her over the years. She takes the attention for granted: "Oh yeah, Billy has always been there for me, would do anything for me, he's a great friend."

She's about to find out what it feels like to be a solitary planet with no moons. Even orbiters eventually figure things out. The temple erected to worship her will gradually fall silent, as one by one her adherents figure out there's nothing in it for them and move on.

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Maturin_nj 1y ago

She's right at the epiphany 30 stage. The big first wake up. A first recognition of consciousness. Something a lot of these shrews completely lack prior. Even the orbitors move on, forget, and leave the past behind.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

The thing is, if a guy is good enough to orbit a woman, then odds are, he at least has some redeemable qualities that might make him attractive to another woman. So he’ll find a woman that actually gives him what he craves, which is physical attention, and suddenly the girl he orbits isn’t that interesting anymore.

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oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I don’t know about that “good enough to orbit, good enough to land” thing - all it takes to orbit is to be non threatening and supportive right? AFAIK women don’t feel the quality of their orbiters negatively effects their social image, they’re either neutral or positive regardless right?

Edit: I was going to say I knew a significantly obese guy who did some orbiting but then I remembered he’s still obese but married to a thin woman and has a kid now, so maybe you’re right.

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Maturin_nj 1y ago

Orbiting is never good. . It's a terrible position and demonstrates weak low quality traits. It's about as low and nonrespectful place to go. FZ is right there with it.

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I tried looking up my old exes and frindzoners once... ONCE!!! It was horrifying. The only one that was attractive and had a successful marriage straight up told me she wasn't attracted to me and didn't lead me on. All the rest ended up fat, dead bedrooms, divorced, etc.

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oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Sounds like she thought focusing on her career would net her better options - if I can attract these guys with an undergrad degree imagine the guys I’ll get after a few more years of accomplishments.

She doesn’t sound like a mega carousel rider to me because there’s no lines about shitty or avoidant men, or really anything about men she wants/wanted. Sounds maybe like she was the avoidant one, maybe a corporate nun as PolishKnight mentions.

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

She knew they loved her, she just decided to go into resource-extraction mode and "friended" them instead.

Boyfriend obligations, no boyfriend benefits.

And now, with her value scattered to the winds of time she's remorseful. Reap the whirlwind, capricious slut. Oh, and your family is right you ARE a lost cause.

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