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The part she's definitely leaving out is that she assumed she's snag a man to take care of her. She partied and had a "hoe phase" like every other modern women and didn't believe that behavior would negatively affect her future. At 18 years old there were men in her life that would have married her
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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

Always remember: when a woman posts a picture cropped in tight so that its just her face - she is over 250 pounds.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Don't forget the old school "MySpace angles". Where the selfie is taken from what looks like a drone shot angle.

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ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1y ago

By her own admission, she's fucked 300 guys (probably more likely 900 using the triple count rule!). Assume at minimum half of them were not married / in an LTR. That means she fucked 150 single guys. And that doesn't include guys she might have turned down for sex. And yet, she says "there don't seem to be any single guys left!" Umm... over the past ~15 years, you found at least 150 single guys. That's more possible options than most people (men or women) ever get to choose from, and an order of magnitude more than what her parents and grandparents got to choose from. And yet she still refuses to see that the problem is her. It must be that there are no guys left!

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oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Later in that same thread, a commenter replies:

"I would imagine that it's pretty easy. That's about 20 people per year so on average having sex with someone every two weeks. The maths certainly makes sense"

To which the OP says:

"Hmm, maybe my number is higher then because I was having sex a lot more frequently then that. I started at 15 and probably got to 10 by the time I hit my 20s and then it just took off. On multiple occasions I had sex with several guys in one day. It's really slowed down the last few years though so maybe that balances put your math."

And from elsewhere in the thread OP says:

"I'm sure you're right about the addiction. I have struggled with addiction and I often use sex to fill a void just like I did/do with the other things. I was never a popular kid and then I became a teenager and learned that I could get guys to "like" me by having sex with them. A lot of the sex I have is precluded by an emotional spike: realize Im too fat for my favourite jeans, get in a fight with my mum, buy a great new outfit, get a raise at work. These are the exact same triggers that cause drug addicts to use or food addicts to eat or whatever. Just this weekend I ran into my ex (the ONE person I had a serious long term relationship with) and it brought back a lot of emotions. So I fucked my neighbour. :)"

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

This woman is broken. And because women absent strong paternal influence are generally just impulsive children with tits, she's doing her damnedest to break everyone around her as well.

Jesus wept.

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

At 18 years old, there were men in her life that would have loved to marry her and live in a house and have a family. She rejected them to "have her fun" and "find herself" and any number of other euphemisms for promiscuity. She is finding out the hard way that sex will get a man but sex wont keep a man. A lot of women today conflate a mans sexual desire with his desire to commit.

"If a guy approaches me, overcomes his fear of possible rejection, woos me, wines and dines me, spends money on me, puts in the effort of seduction, then all that cant be just for sex, he's gotta want a commitment too...right?" All that effort cant be just to fuck?

Wrong. Guys desire sex so much that in the olden days we would marry you to get sex. For most of the male population to get sex, (Chad is always the exception. Throughout history, Chad is gonna Chad) we had to marry you. Now the floodgates are opened. Many guys, even upper tier Betas are finding out they can get laid and not have to commit.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

This beta-courtship-ritual of men showing "interest" by wooing her with goodies and validation worked on young men who believed that they were falling in love with a woman to avoid the emotional crush if it was all for naught.

The reason why "men" disappear at 30 is that by then, the men who have gone through rejection, breakups, and so forth have become emotionally hardened against this "negging" tactic by women. They're like the mice that learn how to smell mousetraps. In addition, they don't equate a woman finally putting out if he "courted" her properly with showing she's trustworthy for the reason she mentions: Just because a woman didn't put out for him on the first date, doesn't mean she didn't put out for a hundred other guys.

Heck, men in their 30's should be cautious about wifing up a 30 something woman even with a low body count for the reasons we mention here.

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Einsamer 1y ago

It's even worse. It's not a single factor but multiple:

  1. As you say, a big chunk of men becomes more experienced and smell the traps / recognize the red flags.
  2. Another big chunk is in a stable relationship or marriage.
  3. Yet another chunk just totally gives in as and stops caring about girls but just play games or have other hobbies.
  4. And yet another big chunk works really hard and stops having energy for chasing girls as much anymore.
  5. All of the above prefer girls in their 20s and get less interested about the ones in their 30s and set their OLD filter accordingly, mostly because of looks.
  6. And similar to above, many don't want girls that have a high body count and partied and now want to settle.

I'm sure I forgot a few, but they all make it harder for girls the more time progresses.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

On the money Seagram.

I would say that the big change in men is that they have discovered (in their 30s) that the average man can slay pussy in the 30-48 bracket.

As you point out, chads were always able to slay. What we have seen is that as sluts age out of the CC, they pivot and start looking around for BBs with which to settle down. This is where the 'average' man has his revenge. All he needs to do is to pose as a BB, a guy that might be interested in these vapid, brain dead cum receptacles, and then sample the goods and move on.

The sluts are so dumb that they cannot differentiate between genuine 'nice guys' (dumb beta bucks) and guys that pose as 'interested but need a sample'.

I got a lot more pussy in my early 40s that I did in my early 20s, for this very reason.

TLDR: Women will try to stick the landing by searching for a BB in their early 30s. You can profit from this with this simply formula: Pump, dump and Ghost.

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

As you point out, chads were always able to slay. What we have seen is that as sluts age out of the CC, they pivot and start looking around for BBs with which to settle down. This is where the 'average' man has his revenge. All he needs to do is to pose as a BB, a guy that might be interested in these vapid, brain dead cum receptacles, and then sample the goods and move on.

The sluts are so dumb that they cannot differentiate between genuine 'nice guys' (dumb beta bucks) and guys that pose as 'interested but need a sample'.

What you are describing is called "Beta Bait" in the PUA world. One of the downsides to that strategy is you might not get a first or second date bang. It's a longer game and she may be clever enough to string you along for commitment or short term extraction of your resources. What you do is the exact same thing. She she strings you along with the promise of sex, you string her along with the implied promise of resources and possible commitment. That means no fancy dinners or concerts or other money spending events bit hint at the possibility. Add dread game and the three date rule and she comes to that conclusion that she will have to put out around date 3 or you move on.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

From a personal point of view, I live by the rule 'No dates ever'. I'm not shaming other men, but 'dating' IMHO, is too beta and gynocentric. I only ever take out wives / girlfriend to a dinner, and that only rarely, say for a birthday.

For men to really break free from the Femocracy, we need to say a firm 'no' to all provider type roles.

In short, that means no traditional dating. So I don't (didn't) ever buy into this sex by the Nth date, because there was no date.

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

Hell, anymore a casual meet up isn't even about not being a meal ticket (though that's still a factor); it's as much a test of character as anything else. If a woman gets her hackles up because you suggest a walk in the park instead of dinner at a fancy restaurant, that tells you everything you need to know about how she's plans to treat you should a continuing relationship develop.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

exactly right. One of the really big shifts in the culture of women is exactly this. Back in the 80s, we would sometimes point out that so and so was a gold digger. It was an unusual thing, a 1 in a 100 type of characteristic.

Nowadays, it seems that all women are gold diggers, and they are proud of it. The entire cyrpto-feminist movement is about being a gold digger. They even boast about it in their crappy hip hot shit 'Don't want no broke ass nigga'.

And the NPC "pimps" buy into that shit. People like Andrew Tate are basically a product of Hip Hop culture, that believe that a woman's role is to be a gold digger. I hear echos of it here on this platform, when I hear young spergs talking about how they need a 'side hustle' so they can get their 'cash up' so they can get 'get hoes'. Fucking retarded.

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

Dude. You've been here plenty long enough to know how rule 1 works. You want to fix that last paragraph so I don't have to remove your comment?

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

How's that now?

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

Better. Thank you.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

I'm thinking BB imposters are similar to the game women played in their 20's: "Traditional girl who wants a man to "show interest" by "pursuing" her."

I'm sure most of you have seen the fluff piece article about the woman who went on lunch and dinner dates every day and used the money she saved on food to invest in a high interest bank account. Even if a woman isn't engaging in a scam like this openly, she benefits because she can "next" a guy for trivial reasons and walk away with free food.

A guy in his 30-48 y/o bracket can enjoy the same "sampling" game. I find it sad in that in the laissez faire system, people just alternate at being cruel to each other but absent socially enforced ethics, that's what happens.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

You're right but you're wrong - we DO have socially enforced ethics - feminism and wokism are the socially enforced ethics.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

I see it as a form of karma.

If those women had not been so shortsighted, those men would not have been created. Or at least, not to anywhere near the same level of saturation.

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

those men would not have been created. Or at least, not to anywhere near the same level of saturation.

I have always said and believe that most of the monsters you see out there were made not born. I'm old enough to remember the PUA time frame. A LOT of those pioneers, Roosh, Neil Strauss, Mystery, were serious Blue pilled men that all thought " I want sex, how do I go about getting sex?" They all observed and analyzed and came up with PUA methods. They found out that being a nice guy really does finish last. Being Prince Charming doesnt get you laid. Women want to breed with jerks and A-holes.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Yup, as I keep saying, women are the architects of their own Doom. Anytime a 30+ year old woman asks why she is having a hard time with dating, the answer is her behavior in her teens and 20's.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

@polishknight makes a decent point.

All of this is really suboptimal, for men and women. Men actually want to be doling out 'karma' in their 30s and 40s. We would rather be in a family unit, raising kids in our 30. In our 40s, we'd like to see our kids actually going to university and thriving. We want to live like adults.

The issue is forced on us by women 'waiting'. Women staying on the CC until their mid 30s is what causes the issue.

Moral of the story: if you are single or 'dating' past the age of 25 as a woman, you are headed for the iceberg.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Oh I absolutely agree. I just don't feel any pity for someone who was handed a Golden Ticket and decided to piss it away, despite having all of human history to draw from to figure out why that's a bad idea. It's not my fault they chose to put themselves in a position where in their 30's and 40's onward they are a liability attached to a damp hole.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

This complete sub-mid woman is walking proof of it taking no effort for women to rack up bodies.

Men achieve sex, women just say yes or no to sex

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

And women get a say in the latter thanks to primarily due to men risking their life and limb to make sure they have it.

Something a decent woman would not take for granted.

Unfortunately it is clear that society is infested with women who are not decent.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

I don't think she knows how to spell 'no'.

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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago

I'm [...] very outgoing.

Gee, ya think?

Sex is just not a big deal to me

And that's a big deal to us. You didn't fry your pair bonding abilities, you impaled it, imolated it, let the birds have a go at it and threw salt at whatever was left. You're the kind of woman who, in spite of being in a relationship (no wonder you only had one), will gladly spread her legs to the neighbour because you were bored, or to a guy in the hotel bar because he paid your drink, or because that guy was just sooo hawt. And then say it was no big deal, we can have an open relationship if you want. There are literal prostitutes out there with a lower body count than you.

never had an STD

You don't get sick if you aren't examinated, right?

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Is that actually the OP? If so, living proof of why high body counts for a woman is disgusting. Absolutely no ability to say “no”. What makes us think she would reject other men once she begins to feel any sort of strain in our relationship?

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No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

LOL it's that chick from Stephen King's Misery.

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AlwaysStoic 1y ago

"I'm not ashamed of it."

She should be and that's what makes her a whore. Such women are not fit for relationships or marriage by a long shot and feminists don't understand why. A woman who spreads her legs with such alacrity demonstrates failure to control her baser impulses. No man would ever want to be in an LTR with a creature who goes to bed with men she barely knows. Imagine walkind into a party with this creature on your arm and realising that one or more of the men there may have bent her over. An ONS? That's the best she can hope for.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

Anyone that says 'I am not ashamed of X' is actually ashamed of X.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Face like a lump of raisin bread dough that has been left to rise for too long. On the downward fertility slope part of her life and has had more cocks in her than a Tyson poultry plant.

Can't imagine why men aren't beating down her door to put a ring on that.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago

She reminds me of Flounder in "Animal House"

This post ought to be called "Signs that you wasted your life"

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ChopHopper 1y ago

Yes, "Fat, Drunk, And Stupid Is No Way To Go Through Life".

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

"I'm pretty"

We'll be the judge of that.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

They always tell on themselves. Either publicly on the internet (like this butter face) or they trickle truth it in the 'getting to know you' phase.

You know why? Because deep down, they are proud of being sluts. They think that slutting is some sort of achievement. They think it 'proves' that they are attractive.

It's amusing to note that even the most ardent feminist can still only judge their worth by the metric of male validation.

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