Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 8mo ago Stickied
This is why it has historically been stressed upon women that they should seek to settle down with a marriageable man when they were in their early 20s. Otherwise they would become an "old maid"/spinster when they found themselves not able to get married at all. Sure, the term "old maid" is not commonly used, but the consequences of women not being laser focused on getting married when they have the greatest amount of power to find the best man possible are more similar than we are told by society to believe.
Sure, a woman is not guaranteed to never be able to be married in the same way that an old maid/spinster would be just because she is unmarried in her 30s. But when we look at examples such as this, clearly this woman is not finding the success she would like in finding the relationship she wants and that she would have a much easier time finding what she wants if she was still in her early 20s. The problem is that young women are told that they can delay that sort of search without any consequences and that women become "old maids" are a thing of the past. But when a woman reaches 30 and realizes that she has a harder time getting what she wants for relationships, we should realize that our predecessors had a point in telling young women to prioritize getting married at a young age.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
The thing is that for modern women, it's not a matter of it being "harder", as you put it, "getting what she wants for relationships", but rather the whole point is they want the man "she wants" to "pursue" her. I think this is perhaps what women craved the most out of the so-called liberation movement: To enjoy being a sleeping beauty and the perfect prince riding up and kissing her and giving her everything she wants without her doing ANYTHING.
Women shame each other mercilessly if they are too "nice" to men or appear to want to be married and have kids and put a man as the most importing person in her life. He's supposed to be a magical accessory that gives her what she wants and be tossed aside when she desires. The modern image of what a romantic relationship is like for these women reminds me of the wedding vows for Ming The Merciless except spoken by such women:
Priest: Do you, Ming the Merciless, Ruler of the Universe take this Earthling, Dale Arden to be your Empress of the hour? Ming: (pause) of the hour, Yes. Priest: Do you promise to use her as you will? Ming: (pause, then very slyly) Certainly! Priest: Not to blast her into space? Ming: (silence) Priest: ....Until such time as you get the whim....? Ming: I do.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 8mo ago
I remember having read a great take on this point here on WAATGM (it could even have been you who made it) that there was no such time. The old dropping the handkerchief for him to pick up was how women made their move, offering the guy a chance to talk to her. I remember some classic literature (Jane Austen, maybe?) where the girl was asking some acquaintance of her to introduce her to the guy she found handsome - and those kind of situations were by no means the exception. So, the being pursued only really happens if the guy is a stalker - anything else has some input, even if indirect, from her.
But much like queens and princesses are now seen as never having to do anything but being adored, the past has been rewritten to somehow validate the current generation's entitlement. Of course I shouldn't have to put any effort in the relationship; women have never done so! And it's the men's fault for not being the same horse-riding knights willing to kill and die for a damsel - we should all men up and go fight the Bretons or something.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 7mo ago
When I went to untainted (relatively) cultures, it was astonishing to me how friendly, open, and responsible the women were to communicate what they wanted. Note that part of the "hard to get" game for the women is to avoid rejection at all costs so she can shore up her delusional demands. She never hears she's not good enough, but rather the men are at fault for not being "real men" to pursue her.
In the old days, and in many cultures today, the smart women don't do that BS because they know they have a biological clock, they know the good men get taken fast, and so on.
Another element of that is what my mother was telling young women: "Don't worry! You have PLENTY of time! You're the prize! It will happen when it happens, so no need to do anything!" Essentially, they're trained to be like plants waiting to be watered. This probably worked for a brief time during the 1940's and 1950's when women were "oppressed" and did 'settle" for schmucks like, say, my father (nothing against my father). The notion of sleeping with a half dozen chads and then in their 30's letting a "beta" wife them up didn't exist back then and it was inconceivable. Even my mother would have laughed at that.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Gather ye rosebuds... while ye may!
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Once again, the carousel claims another.
She's seeing the inevitable end - she's getting replaced by younger and hotter nasties on the carousel and the cocks she used to be able to get easily are now unattainable. She has to resort to less and less attractive men and do more and more to keep their attention.
And it kills her.
The feeling she has isn't jealousy. It's dread - she's watching, in real time, her replacements push her off the carousel full speed into the wall and she knows that there's nothing she can do to stop it.
Oddest-One-Here 7mo ago
If a 30-something woman wanted to get into a relationship with a man around her age, she should have avoided the CC and married the best option available to her back in her early 20s, but's its too late now.
No-Stress-Cat 8mo ago
But instead you were fucking every Chad and Tyrone that came along instead of looking to settle down.
yaxir 7mo ago
small fix, please note ;)
No-Stress-Cat 7mo ago
Yeah. That too.
yaxir 7mo ago
she did get her shots tbh,
on her face and cooch
from chads and tyrones mostly
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 8mo ago
I would be interested in seeing her reaction to a guy she didn't find attractive being upset to see her with a guy she did find attractive. Would she care that he was jealous, or would she say that it was none of his business and that he was acting entitled? Would she give him a shot?
We know the answers.
Oh well...inspins gonna' inspin.
Justanaverageguy 8mo ago
But see she can’t help who she’s attracted to but guys can!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
I'm that guy (not good looking) and they get angry with me (and my wife) when they see I'm doing well in life, have a pretty wife and daughter, and in their view, I don't "belong" there because it implies that they don't deserve hotter guys if a schmuck like me can get someone as hot (or hotter) than them. I should keep my mouth shut, my head down, and stay in the gutter where I belong with the other serfs. I'm reminded of the line from The Holy Grail "How do you know he's The King?" "He isn't covered with shit."
Of course, we know here that there are plenty of men in their 30's who fit her criteria: Don't have kids, have a decent job, and relationship minded but they are the invisible ones. Also, when she says "give a shot", she means he responds to her flirting and pursues her because if she pursued top-tier guys and subjected herself to rejection, her ego would be quickly checked.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Haha schmucks unite! Let those hoes die alone.
orbilius 8mo ago
This reminds me of an article from more than 10 years ago, written by an aspiring "journalist" woman in her twenties, about the women who pursued her boyfriend, who was in his 30s and was very successful.
I forget exactly what it was that he did - what business he was in - might have been something tech related. Anyway, he would give lectures (like TED talks probably) about his work, and because of that, he would get newspaper and even TV coverage about him.
...and because of that (because he was successful, good-looking, and on TV) women would show up to his lectures hoping to bag him.
And his 20-something girlfriend would write about what it was like to see these women get shot down. I suppose her motivation was mostly being bitchy/catty to the women who wanted her man.
Nonetheless, it was a great article. I wish I had saved it. She described how these women in their 30s would show up dressed like they were going to a formal event, and they'd sit in the front row so that he would notice them. And the girlfriend would sit quietly and listen to them talk about her boyfriend - how he "checked all the boxes"
If these women talked to her, she would reveal that she's his girlfriend. Then they'd look down their noses at her, because she was younger than them. It's exactly like the OP there.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
I remember that article. That was a good one.
Edit - another commenter found it and shared the link.
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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 8mo ago
As I have repeatedly stated: I am not - not have I ever been - a Chad. However, in my six decades I have experienced the slow, subtle shift in the mating market that comes with age. Being a happily married guy, I don't flirt with women, but over time they have started to flirt with me. (Salient detail: I don't wear a wedding ring.)
That's normally when I casually mention something about my wife, and the "vibe" undergoes a subtle change.
yaxir 7mo ago
how do you determine, for sure, that women are flirting with you ?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
Examples: lingering eye contact, lots of smiling and laughing, finding any excuse to touch you at all (kino), primping/preening, etc.
The more of them a woman does in combination with each other, the stronger her interest.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 7mo ago
There is no formula: flirting and sending Indicators of Interest (IOI) is intentionally subtle, especially when women do it. But like @Typo-MAGAshiv noted, there are "tells." Some common sign include giggling, hair-twirling, finding some reason to engage in conversation, saying something vaguely suggestive, plus the stuff he mentioned.
For what it's worth, I don't think for a moment that many women consciously think, "I want to have sex with that guy so I'm going to hit on him and see what happens." For example, I'm quite certain the flight attendant who said something to me that could have gotten her fired last week didn't intend to sneak me into the crew compartment for a quickie on a ten-hour flight. Nonetheless, she wouldn't have acted that way unless she liked what she saw. Likewise with the gate agent three weeks ago who came over to talk to me before boarding... or the woman in the coffee shop a couple of months ago... or the woman in the grocery store...
But in case it wasn't clear: I don't believe that I could bed all these women (or even very many of them), but I'm sure the number is not zero.
yaxir 7mo ago
I want to become like you !
I do want women to flirt with me
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
Yeah, for real. Most of the time it's instinctual impulse, and they don't realize they're doing it.
Hence why whenever coitus ensues, they say "it just happened! Tee-hee!"
And yes, some consciously imitate these signs to get a man's attention, money, etc.
CC: @yaxir
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AsianDude 8mo ago
Sounds like this article
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html
Oddest-One-Here 7mo ago
I knew it was that Australian article which #orbilius was talking about.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
Great digging, to find that old article.
Would you or @orbilius (since he mentioned it first) be willing to share that article as a standalone post this weekend, using an archive.is link and flairing it "a response"?
CC: @moorekom, @Kevin32, @lurkerhassrisen, @woodsmoke, @DeeplyDisturbed
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
Tag @lurkerhasarisen
(Messed up first attempt (not wearing my glasses), and editing the comment will undo all the tags)
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
Yup. What's funny is the complaint about it being ''It's wall-to-wall arseholes out there,'' without even the slightest bit of self reflection that maybe, just maybe, their own behavior in their 20's was the primary driver behind that outcome.
It's like they are an abusive pet owner that thinks they can just kick the pitbull forever without consequence, and are stunned when it either runs away or mauls them.
IceNineWithLime 8mo ago
"Almost one in three degree-educated 35-year-old men marries or lives with women aged 30 or under, according to income, housing and marriage surveys by the Bureau of Statistics."
Nice.
"American journalist Kate Bolick wrote recently in The Atlantic about breaking off her three-year relationship with a man she described as ''intelligent, good-looking, loyal and kind''. She acknowledged ''there was no good reason to end things'', yet, at the time, she was convinced something was missing in the relationship. That was 11 years ago. She's is now 39 and facing grim choices."
She's 50 now. Wonder if anything changed?
Oddest-One-Here 7mo ago
She fell for the now classic "Surely I can do even better if I just break up with this quality good man I am with" idea.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 8mo ago
When I was 35 I had a degree and was married to a woman who was 30. In fact, that was the year of our 10th wedding anniversary. Not that it matters, but if I were single I probably wouldn't even look at a woman unless she was at least 15 years younger than I am.
orbilius 8mo ago
She wrote a book titled, "Spinster" - https://www.amazon.com/Spinster-Making-Life-Ones-Own/dp/0385347154
Here's a funny review on Amazon: "Agree with other reviewers who found the book indulgent. I was hoping for more of a study on single women throughout history, and wasn't expecting it to be about the author's dating life."
OF COURSE it's about her dating life!! Sex is all that any of these women ever write about! It's the book-length version of those recent viral Chelsea Handler videos where she humble-brags about drinking wine and fucking randos.
Oddest-One-Here 7mo ago
"I expected to be reading a historical study on the subject, not some old maid's autobiography".
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
These women are so uninteresting, that all they can do is flex about going on vacation and getting pipe laid on them by some man that they met 2 hours ago in a Milan hotel.
Of course all they can do is talk about sex and feelings. They’re too vapid to actually discuss real stuff.
orbilius 7mo ago
You'll notice that trend among female comedians too. Every joke is about vaginas and sex and how awesome they are.
Justanaverageguy 8mo ago
Wonder if she ever “just gave them a shot” to all the guys in her 20’s who were invisible to her or weren’t hot enough or tall enough? Bet she doesn’t even do that now.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 8mo ago
Yes, it's normal. Because you feel owed, entitled even, to the men you want. Like a typical woman, you view men as utility objects that you own and/or cast aside.
So when a man you feel entitled to exercises his free will to choose someone other than you, you feel jealous.
Also, the feeling you experience is likely more than just that: it's also the sinking feeling that you fucked up and waited too long.
Lionsmane8 8mo ago
I enjoy rubbing it in their face.
maseboogie Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Because you're now the 30+ year-old woman you used to make fun of in your 20s when you would hear them say the exact same thing. Ouch.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 8mo ago
Weird, it's like these women could have snagged a guy when they were younger or something instead of having this insecurity when they're older
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 8mo ago
Indeed. Many women are done a disservice by anyone who tells them "you have all the time in the world" rather than emphasizing the importance of not wasting time if they want to be married in their future. If she is a legal adult, no time like the present!
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
The best thing a young woman could learn is that men who are of a mind to actually commit are going to look for attractive women that are demonstrating that family is their first priority, not women that are demonstrating that family is a distant second at best. Men have a right to choose wise investments and anything outside the first is not a wise investment.
And a woman that spends from puberty thru her entire 20's on much of anything other than trying to find a stable husband candidate falls in the latter category, whether intentionally or not.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 8mo ago
That's where they get confused.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
It's obviously the fault of men for being disgusting and preferring young women! If they weren't such pigs, maybe you'd have a chance.
I suggest blaming all your problems on men, and then loudly demanding that they "man up" and fix them all.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Whatevah!!! I'mma go put my dick in my 46yr old Asian wife that looks 26. Bye Felicia! Your ship sailed 20yrs ago.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Ahahahahah! I'm laughing at this schadenfreude.
reignoferror00 8mo ago
So sad that the guy that checks all of your boxes now, no longer has even your box on his checklist.
He was probably was one of the guys you couldn't have seen yourself dating in your 20's. Not enough tingles then, but you've got the tingle$$$ for him now.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
“Had my fun and now I want something real”
“Why doesn’t the world bend to my will?”
Pic889 8mo ago
You mean it was never about those younger women's alleged lack of maturity and it was all about her feels?
Shocked.
DextroShade 8mo ago
She thinks her old, used-up ass still qualifies for the type of men who are valuable enough to date younger girls. Why should these guys give her a shot when she has likely rejected scores of men who were actually at her level? The only thing consistent about modern women is their hypocrisy.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
The best part is that many of these men, they’re probably single at 33 because women like her didn’t give them a chance.