Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
kevin32
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
Rules for submission:
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
- 9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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kevin32 Ambassador for NiceGuys™ 8mo ago Stickied
Most men rate women with their dicks instead of objectively and give below-average women ratings reserved for supermodels, which in turn causes many women to hold out for model-tier men. But a good rule of thumb when rating a woman's looks is to start with the number 5 and ask yourself is this woman really on the extreme of a 10-point scale that puts her in league with known supermodels? Or more realistically just one or two points from mid. Most women range between 3 and 6.
yaxir 8mo ago
this to be honest , is necessary for men looking to date !
i need to learn this when i meet girls ! so that i am not insecure about my own body, race etc
most women are nothing special , i need to believe i am good enough and the girl isn't some godly fucking vixen who i should be scared of flirting with
that last point needs to be ingrained in men !
Lionsmane8 8mo ago
I havebetter system.
Rate on 100.
Now you see what I mean.
yaxir 8mo ago
Lionsmane being awesome as ever !
yes !
30 - 60 Out of 100 really makes it way more apparent !
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
I have a better one. 0-3.
0 - groups of people that, no matter how attractive they are, you aren't into them (i.e. heterosexual people assessing the same sex)
1 - would not fuck.
2 - would fuck, but not openly or exclusively
3 - would fuck exclusively
Lionsmane8 8mo ago
"Exclusivity??"
What's that?
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
There are, occasionally, women who you would not risk losing by entertaining other women.
Baron 8mo ago
There is no such thing as objective beauty, what you believe is literally preposterous. Sure, beauty is actually identified subjectively by some features most people agree but are actually not scientifically based, they can't be proven they are objectively beautiful and beauty itself is actually in fact an abstract concept so it is definitely unproveable by instristic definition and meaning. Forget what you laughably believe, find a woman YOU find attractive. I for one, don't consider "men" looking like anorexic blowfish Handsome Squidwards with puffer fish lips and ugly sucked in cheeks as "objectively" attractive. While a wide and chinseled-pronounced jaw and jawline and pronounced and a bit wide cheekbones play a role in masculine face something of excess becomes a caricature.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
"something of excess becomes a caricature."
Like Jay Leno? LOL
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
They actually did a study on this. It's a generalization but it forms a basis. Since this is a reddit post you can probably assume it's mostly white guys who are mostly attracted to white gals. You can also assume these guys live in countries with high obesity rates so the fit women are extremely rare. Since 70% of Americans are obese, just being fit puts a woman in the top 30%, or a HB7. Globally she may be a HB5 but you get the idea.
Einsamer 8mo ago
Just to be clear, your math doesn't work out in your example.
If she's in the top 30% and an HB7 that means that she's actually in the bottom of those 30%. She'd have to be a HB8.5 to be average within those 30%. And that means, if she's an HB7 in America then globally she's not even an HB5 but in fact anything from HB1 to HB3...
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 8mo ago
I came here to say something similar. I came of age before the fatapocalypse, and I cannot consider a fat woman to be attractive. The numbers aren't as bad as you stated (70% are overweight, but less than half the population is actually obese), but the average American woman today would have been considered unbedable in my day by any guy with standards. Since I live in the US, and it is impossible for a fat woman to be attractive, that leaves most American women in the No-Go Zone.
That said, pretty much any women can be an age-adjusted, US-specific 7 just by controlling her diet, and almost any can be an 8 if she pairs that with regular exercise. I don't consider myself to be particularly attractive, but I'm a gym rat, while most guys my age are absolute wrecks, so I guess I'm an 8 using that scoring method.
So we must choose between a few different ways to determine scores. Nation or World is one choice. Whether to group by age cohort is another. Perhaps the most significant factor is where we place the center.
If we line up all women in order of attractiveness (however defined), and assign scores using a bell curve, the average American woman (a 5) would be a cow. However, if we define 5 as the threshold for "Good enough to smash while sober," the bell curve skews to the left, and the woman in the middle of the big lineup would be a 3-point-something.
I don't know what the rules are in that sub, but by some measure the three white women are all 7s and above simply by virtue of being slender (the black chick is too fat).
That said, tattoos on women are a major turn off for me, so although #3 is very cute, she's definitely not the type of woman I've ever been attracted to.
Edit: I just looked at the rating rules for the sub, and I get it now. They only consider facial features, and even then only from a "technical" perspective. Still their "guide" is pretty wonky, and some of the women they put in the 8 zone are better looking than some in the 9.5+ zone. Just because a woman is a famous model doesn't make her more attractive than the gym bunny on the elliptical (especially without hours of being worked on by professional makeup artists).
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Well it's us men that decide what is attractive to us. If every guy on the planet wants to smash a woman she's a 10. When I went to Russia all the women were slim so I got to see the differences in other ways. Age being the most obvious.
I think we have skewed beauty ideas based on Hollywood and the porn industry. The fake boobs, lip filler, plastic surgery, etc.
reignoferror00 8mo ago
24(F) One more time with different pictures? Think you need to rethink your choices.
Cover up the crappy tattoos, remove the nose ring, remove those spider legs from here eyes, remove the choker, dye your hair back to something close to what could be found in nature. If you want to stand out, in a good way, that's the way to do it.
Justanaverageguy 8mo ago
Nose rings and tattoos on women are such a turnoff to me.
Oddest-One-Here 8mo ago
They are one of my pet-peeves as well.
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Lionsmane8 8mo ago
In order:
6.1
5.1
7.0
6.8-6.9
NOW MAKE ME A MOD
MonteroS 8mo ago
5 exactly average, flat, pierced, didnt try too look decent for evaluation pic
4 fat like, cellulite amost certain, if fat 2
6 looks somewhat trashy, just young
6 considering age and if not saggy
MMV not considered, but repulsion if any - yes
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
No way that third woman is a 7. The way that sub works is that attractiveness is a bell curve, with the majority of people falling between 4 and 6. So if you’re rating someone as a 7 you’re saying that without makeup she would be the most beautiful woman in a room with 30 other randomly chosen women with no makeup.
Lionsmane8 8mo ago
Exactly.
She's the only one i'dconsider banging from this list. Maybe she is just my type,esoecially if you take away her dumbass purple hair and tattoos.
Other than that, her face is symmetrical, fair skinned, no pimples or imperfections, green wide eyes, and despite the obvious lip gloss, her lips are quite large.
Add to that that her BMI seems pretty healthy.
So yes, she's a 7 in my book.
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 8mo ago
-Kevin Samuels
Lionsmane8 8mo ago
I do what I want!!
Oddest-One-Here 8mo ago
The vast majority of the time, that would knock her down to a 6, especially if you remove the makeup, true 8+ women are rare as fuck.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 8mo ago
I've never been particularly good at judging my attractiveness. I know I'm not a 9 or a 10. I'm probably not an 8. But I do know that I'm not below a 3.
So I'm between a 4 and a 7, but I can't use a 7. Well, yikes. Between a 4 and a 6? I guess.
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 8mo ago
Don't forget that other Samuelsism:
slowlylearning1 8mo ago
Most men are desperate and sad.
90% of my friends married their high school 'sweethearts' and they are mostly all betas. Most of them have no self belief, so pussy-whipped and some only one relationship their whole life they adore average, average women.
I was at a high school reunion in the summer, late 30s, and couldn't believe how beta some of these men have turned in to. One was telling me that he was happily married but still has a 'What If,' about a woman we both met only ONCE on a night out years ago e.g one woman that was a bit of banter, yet ultimately left to meet her boyfriend many years ago. A friend of mine late 30s is dating a mid 20s woman, and the now twice-married 'family' man chump who again married the first and second woman who showed any interest in him at the drop of hat said ''you're robbing the cradle dating someone so young,'' I then joked and said what porn do you watch then? His face went red and said he didn't watch any porn (wives were sniffing around).
Anyone on the fence about TRP, that's 95% of men who your competition are. And they don't do anything either. Just sit around watching TV or doom scrolling their phones like women do.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
I had a crappy childhood and could hardly wait to leave my hometown. There were some nice girls in my hometown and if I had married them, I'd be a happy beta too. The nice girls weren't that bad, don't get me wrong, but I'm more interesting now. I lived in several cities and when I was in my late 20's and trying to find a "nice" girl, I was hit (back in the 90's) with the single moms and entitlement queens. I then traveled internationally and it was like living my life seeing Chevy's and Dodges and suddenly seeing Toyotas and Mazdas. All that "frame" came from that experience as well as reading.
Most American men don't have a passport and have never traveled outside of the USA and barely out of their hometown. They pay $120/month for a multi channel TV that pumps out the usual crap none of it RP. I suppose if I had a comfy childhood, I'd be one of them.
Lionsmane8 8mo ago
You paint a bleak portrait, but I can't help but corroborate.
Should we feel sad or elated at the (lack of) competition.
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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
That sub is weird, there’s a lot more that goes into a rating than just the face. But if I had to go
1) 5-6. Reasonably symmetrical, thin. Nose ring knocks her down, as well as her wrinkles/obvious signs of age
2) 5. Completely average. Not ugly but could afford to lose weight.
3) 6.5. By face and body weight alone, this girl is cute. Still looks youthful. But the tattoos, hair, and nose ring really limits how high she can go.
4) 6. As far as 42 year old women go, this one is looking good. But there are visible signs of aging, and suspected plastic surgery here
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 8mo ago
That chick with the purple hair has such powerful thousand cock stare. She also seems to have some powerful SSRI stare as well.
Screencapping that as an example of clear TCSSRIS? (Thousand-cock SSRI stare?)
Edit: screencapped
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SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
A refined man with standards. I love it. I agree, only one who actually looks a bit traditionally feminine has her eggs way past their sell-by date.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Why is tit size not taken into consideration on that sub? It should.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 8mo ago
They only rate faces, and the rating system is based on symmetry and flaws only. Men tend to rate women on the proportions of their bodies, with a 0.7 waist-to-hip ratio being the most important one. These guys don't consider that at all. It's literally not a consideration.
The bell curve is also wildly skewed to the center.
Rather than drawing the curve based on the beauty of the women, they imposed the ratings to make them fit the the curve, which forces all sorts of counterintuitive outcomes. I see very attractive women all the time, and that sub would rate nearly all of them in the 5.5-6.5 range.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Wait 'til some trannies show up.....That sub's mods will get really mad then! Hahah!
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