Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla about a week ago
This post is now stickied because of the quality comments in it so far.
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SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
She may try to rationalize that she doesn’t care about his poor pathetic lowly bachelor’s degree, but we know that she has already lost a ton of respect for him.
Females live and trade on validation, and she had been validated in her mate choice by her parents and society. You know this skank has told literally everyone about her “lawyer” boyfriend. No way she is willing to actually walk all that hideous shame back. This will eventually be filed under the “Watch what women do and not what they say” category.
The other tidbit that made me laugh was the timeline she is putting on everything. Who schedules their life down like that? Women who believe in real life Disney fantasies, that’s who.
The thing that slipped by me at first is how she will be “ready to settle down” once she completes her Ph.D. In case you don’t speak womanese, she was planning on getting knocked up by a rich Chad with a high earning potential (see degree requirements) so she wouldn’t have to work.
Can any man here imagine going through all the work to get a Ph.D, including all that debt, just to throw it all away? They don’t ever really care about the education, it’s the degree and title (and the mAn ThEy NoW dEsErVe) that they truly want. I have a Ph.D and I married a lower middle class woman who truly appreciates the kind of lifestyle I can provide for her. Women like the ones in this post infinitely limit their mate choice by their own hypergamy.
Avoid these wealth destroying monkey branchers like the plague. It’s nothing but a sea of entitlement, debt, misery and demands for you.
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Pic889 about a week ago
If I may add, they never stop for a moment to question whether their partner approves of that timeline, they just assume their partner owes them commitment and will happily provide it (which is a complete reversal of the "men are the gatekeepers to commitment" thing). And when their partner doesn't give the commitment he never agreed to in the first place, it's somehow his fault.
Just tell those women you are not religious and don't believe in marriage. And that even civil marriage is a whitewashed version of a religious affair (which btw it is, marriage stopped having a civil meaning when no-fault divorce became a thing and infidelity in marriage stopped being a crime, now it's just a contract that's abusive to the breadwinner with some religious undertones). So, you don't even have to lie. You don't owe anyone marriage.
That said, the man outright lied to her, but that's what she gets for dating Chad. Chad doesn't care if his lies catch up with him, because he can pull out his phone and replace her in a matter of hours, which will allow him start fresh. That's what Chad's being doing ever since he was a teenager, and it hasn't failed him so far.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed about a week ago
Louder for the dumbasses in the back that are coping hard about being slated for pay-pig duties.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed about a week ago
What makes this so funny is how she thought she had dodged a bullet. She's 32 years old which may seem like not a big deal, but she realizes she doesn't have a lot of time. She was hoping to settle down by age 35 or so which is when the biological clock goes off. Heck, her grilling him about his status on the 2nd date showed just how poorly she's emotionally handling the pressure. The guys that don't walk away worrying about being used as an ATM and sperm bank will pump and dump her.
Tick tock tick tock.
maseboogie Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
I have nothing to add, but I damn sure wanted to give you your props for this comment sir. SPOT. ON.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla about a week ago
Good comment.
GimmeTheUsual about a week ago
So fucking true.
I knew these two skanks that used to come into the bar and they thought they were all high and mighty with their advanced studies. It was clearly a status thing, they bandied that about while I was doing some work, as if I was a lowly peon and they were so great.
Funny thing is, I got out of there and am currently worth more than those two bitches put together -- and I mean more than their total lifetime earnings. I bet they're tending some cats and a dying plant right now, not having "settled" for a guy.
Too funny.
No-Stress-Cat about a week ago
Garfield and the Charlie Brown Christmas Tree
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
I have masters and my wife has high school. She also has no debt, no tattoos, n count of 2, is low-maintenance, and came highly qualified to be a wife and mother. I'd probably kill myself if I had to be with one of these insufferable kunts in the OP.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3 days ago
It’s nice to just be trusted by your wife to make the decisions versus having to constantly pass some shit test from an elitist modern western woman.
whytehorse2021 3 days ago
Yeah I have friends like that. It's annoying when they tell you they have to get permission from their wife to hang out. Hence the reason golf was invented.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3 days ago
“Hey babe, I’m going out to see my friends. Give me a call if you need me”. All it should be.
whytehorse2021 2 days ago
I secretly want to go let a silent-but-deadly fart on their wives.
Justanaverageguy about a week ago
Women want honest men when they can’t be honest themselves. Women lie about EVERYTHING. Even lying by omission, still lying.
IBelieveInTheFallen Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Lying by omission is a liar’s favorite tool. It’s so easy to fool people.
“I haven’t been dating for five years! I’m not like most girls” (by “dating” she means Olive Garden. She has, in fact, been getting fucked so much that she has to alternate holes to counteract the soreness. But she hasn’t been doing relationship stuff for five years).
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
This is so true. I was doing my usual pipe/coffee before work one afternoon and I listened as a woman was talking to her girlfriend about what she was doing. "Oh I'm just having lunch with Mary, about to head to therapy". She was not "just" having lunch - she was doing shots, a thing her girlfriend specifically doesn't like.
I, personally, found the lie distasteful and said "Way to just casually lie about what you were doing." She didn't even realize that she did it. That is how easily women lie. We had to baby step her through it, and every time she almost made the connection, she factory reset.
Vermillion-Rx Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
This omissive framing always reminds me of what a FWB used to do when I was seeing her when talking about men from her past, and most likely probably the men in her life while I was with her
"We had a special night and we kissed"
when referring to some dude she was with before me and that she was trying to hold out for before seeing me, really meant in a later admission
"I went over to his place without a date first, we started making out, and then we fucked all night and in the morning and it was some of the best sex of my life"
It can really be quite egregious with the omissions. Just tell the palatable part of the story and then stop right there. It's technically the truth but almost wholely innacurate of how the event is represented and a lot of women do it a lot of the time
IBelieveInTheFallen Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Don’t be mistaken, it’s not even “technically” the truth.
Am I technically a cell? No? Why not - I have a cell in me, so technically I’m telling the truth when I say I’m a cell, right? Never mind the countless other cells that make up a human body, I don’t like those and only like the one so I’ll leave the rest out and still be telling the truth!
They don’t say it like “We kissed and had a special night… (with an implied ‘and…’ based on their intonation)” They say it like “We kissed and had a special night.” Period. So it’s not even technically the truth.
Muhhic about a week ago
I will chime in on lies by omission. It is lie as any other and is as bad as any other. What counts is outcome.
Is this baby mine?
Yes this baby is yours
Both lies
Vermillion-Rx Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
I should have clarified my original statement better. The PART they are talking about is technically the truth. Like in my example, she technically kissed him, which was true.
Her "special night" was having deep conversations, which followed up with fucking.
She technically told the truth about those parts specifically is my point, while omitting the rest
That's the problem here. To her and other women they aren't lying because they are iterating entirely true statements for what they do say.
Now, the entire event is a misrepresentation of the major points of what happened. The all night fuck fest in between sleeping was the main point. But everything else was true.
To them omission isn't lying and that's the problem. We know it's a lie in principle but they hamster it as truth because their non-ommited words actually happened
IBelieveInTheFallen Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Although I never got a chance to say this to my oneitis since I was too beta to break it down for her, the reason that it’s a problem is because they are passing it off as the full picture when it’s only a part of the picture. So it’s technically true, but not technically the truth. Like if you ask a girl if she wants to go to the movies and she says “I’m really busy” but makes time for other people.. it’s possible that her claim of being busy is “true” but impossible for it to be “the truth” since it was used as an answer to a question, to the end of “no” but with the excuse having nothing to do with the true reason.
Vermillion-Rx Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
This was what I'm trying to convey. THE truth doesn't matter to them. what they hamster is that they are being truthful even if they're not saying THE truth because it's a pure technicality
IBelieveInTheFallen Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Yep, it’s quite a travesty. But we can bask in the glory that not only will they lose every good relationship that they had, but they’ll be wondering why, which is amazing. No closure for them.
preach about a week ago
I happened to see that post yesterday. Yes she's an elitist. You know its bad when even reddit is mostly telling her she's fucked up in the head, but no, she's gonna double down on what doesn't work. I've met women just like this in real life before and have the same traits and personalities. You're truly wasting your time on people like this. Let her place her order for the crazy cat lady starter kit in peace.
IBelieveInTheFallen Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Not so fast. Reddit is where people in the right get told that they are wrong. The only reason there is an eclipse here is because the average Redditor has down syndrome and can’t fault someone for not being successful.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
I got banned for...
/Checks notes
... Saying that trans women aren't women.
Lone_Ranger Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
I got banned for saying that if you're a woman in the first world and you're on the streets protesting about your rights, then you're selfish and egotistical, because in other parts of the world, humans are actually suffering from brutal oppression, starvation, war, disease and dire poverty. I posted this in a sub called 'Unpopular opinions'... which was a fun sub reddit where people posted all sorts of deliberately controversial things. You could post things like people over 65 should be 'put down' (executed). You could literally advocate for mass murder and pogroms. But apparently, I crossed the line.
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
I got banned for...
/Checks notes
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IBelieveInTheFallen Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Lmao that’s hilarious.
I was banned because someone posted that they had an eating disorder and that they were triggered after they complained to their friend about trying to lose weight and their friend told them to try Keto; I commented “that’s not a rude thing to say, Keto is a successful diet that helps a lot of people.” This was in r/rant and the rule that I broke was “don’t be a dick” lmfao. Okay stay obese fatty.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT about a week ago
I remember back in my early 20s when I was talking to a fatty (those were dark times...). One day she comes to me all pumped up because that stomach stapling thing was getting more common, and her mother (also a whale's pacifier - direct translation, it sounds better in portuguese) suggested she could try it. I was a few months in my paleo diet, and had lost around 10kg (a bit over 22lbs) pretty much effortlessly, and suggested she take a look at the diet. She answered me that it was too radical. As in stapling a fucking organ is fine and dandy, but cutting out sugar and wheat is too much.
GimmeTheUsual about a week ago
My favorite reply to someone who takes umbrage at my opinion on Trannies/Fags/Degens is:
"I'm not afraid, I'm just disgusted." (Since they always use the 'phobic' framing)
And yeah, I think personally that tolerating degenerates is part of why civilization is unraveling.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3 days ago
PJW actually did a video once that showed that conservatives and liberals had a vastly different brain reaction to imagery that could be considered “disgusting”. Basically leftists aren’t perturbed by things that should be perturbing to people.
GimmeTheUsual 3 days ago
Yep, saw that. Shame the doctor that did that research doesn't have the balls to stand by his work. It fundamentally showed there are specific differences between libs and the rest of normal society.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2 days ago
It goes against the narrative that leftists are just more tolerant and not simply comfortable with disgusting behavior.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
1) yes you are an elitist. You can meet intelligent men at any level of education. One grandfather of mine had a professional degree back in the 50’s (when only 5% of people or so even had a bachelors degree), and the other never finished high school, and both were able to take care of a family just fine. In 2019, only 8% of men aged 25-29 had a master’s degree or higher, so you’re basically disqualifying 92% of men because they didn’t consume enough educational product for your liking. Elitist.
2) according to statista, there’s around 23% more women earning PhD level degrees (med school, law school, Ed D included) than men. By 2031, this is projected to be 51% higher. Suggests that soon, the total market for PhD women will be around 3 men for every 4 of them, and even worse for the younger cohort (something like 2 men for every 3 women). And men are way less likely to care if their SO is “educated”.
3) this woman thinks her PhD studies makes her valuable. It doesn’t. It’s the opposite, actually. I see a 33 year old woman who is just consuming a ton of educational product. Apparently there’s a lot of ways to get a PhD now that don’t involve being an indentured servant to academia (like Jeremy from “The Quartering” mentioned he’s a year and a half away from a PhD), but I highly doubt that an MA in anything is conducive to a high income. Unless, of course, her rich parents helped her out. So she’s either carrying a boatload of debt, or she’s ignorant to how reality works at 33. Neither of these are positives for building a life together.
4) IME, the more that they make, the more that they want to spend. In general, power couples do not work, because they’re both trying to fill the same role in the household. For a woman like this, if the household had a $500k a year annual income, she would have it spending $525k a year. Because we’ve seen it in her quest for education; she HAS to buy the status item. Getting a bachelor’s degree and going to work isn’t good enough for her (even though most financially successful people that I know did just that).
5) from just a biological POV, you’re 33 and just starting a PhD program. When do you plan on, you know, kids? Anyone who marries you is basically signing up to bottleneck their own genetic lineage. And it goes back to the point that your own status doesn’t improve you in the eyes of potential romantic partners. The men who do see this as a positive will tend to be more feminine men. And heck, we see it in this example; a younger man is going for an older, more experienced and more credentialed woman. Think he’d be doing that if he were 37, making $200k a year and interested in a family? Or would he be like me and look for women with a “2” in the tens digit of their age?
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
What's even more funny is that the intelligence genes in kids usually comes from the father. My wife is like 90IQ and our son is top of his class(so was I).
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Yeah I’m fairly confident that once I start shooting out kids, they’ll have little to no difficulty in academic challenges. I care much more that they optimize their social situations over chasing degrees, though. Especially a daughter. Unless she wants to be like this woman: 33, spending her entire young adult life chasing career and education, having to choose between accepting a younger guy who lives with his parents or no one at all.
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
I'm just pointing out the social engineering that we have all been programmed into. As men, our only priority in a mate is her fertility but we've been programmed to value what women prioritize in a mate: intelligence, strength, resources, etc. The key is to know your worth, know her worth, and act accordingly. A 20yr old dumbass virgin from a third world country has higher value than any 40yr old PhD boss babe from the US.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
That she does. My girl was actually voicing concern yesterday that she was worried people would see her as a dumb trophy, essentially. I told her that anyone who thinks that is an idiot who is insulting me just as much as her; I didn’t look to her to build a family with for superficial crap. That’s what western women want. And what western men are increasingly programmed to want. A physically attractive woman with a nurturing personality is what we want, both for the genetics (kids will come out looking better than average) and for the comfort and psychological support that comes from a supportive home. A boss babe that would rather have the system raise her kid than sacrifice anything for the family is not it.
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
What's funny is is doesn't go both ways. Western women can't go to another country and find a higher value man than even an average dude in the West. Lots of guys are waking up to this and posting all over the internet with their HB10 foreign women.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Saw a video of a dude who is legitimately physically deformed with an attractive Filipina wife. And of course, people will bash him for “going abroad”. Modern women have no idea how a man that provides, protects, loves, cares, and emotionally supports is basically gold in most of the world. Even if you move them to the USA with you, the odds of them betraying their man is far lower than your standard western woman
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 6 days ago
That may be true, but it also makes divorce dramatically more likely than if you'd stayed in the culture that made her a good woman in the first place.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 6 days ago
Very true. But hey, maybe you don’t want to leave your family or can’t just make a living on a laptop.
whytehorse2021 6 days ago
Not if you install anti-feminist defense mechanisms into your wife.
whytehorse2021 6 days ago
True and it exposes a value system disorder in modern women. They value alpha traits and traditional women value beta traits. It's the same thing that happened in the rat utopia experiments. They all become single moms, neglect their pretty offspring, and then no more alphas are born and raised to be alphas. And the birth rate goes to zero.
It will be interesting to see alpha-preference women in human utopia go extinct while beta-preference women reproduce in record numbers with the best betas on the planet. Throw in red pill awareness to the betas and they are now raising their boys to be future Alpha Buxx. Like a 100% guarantee of successful offspring that produce successful offspring and have a preference for beta-preference women.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 6 days ago
Yeah, I think there’s nothing better than a red pill aware ex-beta to raise boys. They learned from experience what repels women. And screws them over in the long run.
Heatwave about a week ago
This woman radiates elitism, gating a partner based on degree held is text book for an academic elitists. Shes also clearly salty because not only was she called out for it but no one is giving her any validation for her justification for dumping this poor guy.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed about a week ago
Something to consider is that he's not a poor guy, really. He is college educated, after all, and his degree isn't about just impressing his friends or his dual doctor parents but earning a literal living to support a family. That's why he suggested that they take some time apart. Let's review their situations: He's still under 30 and has had a major relationship under his belt. He can probably sleep with lower class women or single mothers just to be sexually active. She, on the other hand, is facing a narrow range of suitable men who have PhD ready to commit to having children in under 3 years and that's assuming they don't run away screaming from her after she asks for their university transcripts and sperm count on the 2nd date.
He's fine.
maseboogie Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
I lurked on the Reddit thread and she replied to a user that she does not want to have children. What a lucky guy: Has to go above and beyond educationally just to settle for an entitled, elitist shrew who doesn't even want to have kids. The unmitigated foolery.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed about a week ago
I'm wondering if that perfect guy out there is just like her then... wouldn't be be like John Nash in "A Beautiful Mind" who may not want marriage at all? Just as we stereotype the 40 something career woman whose "set in her ways" and doesn't have the social skills or desires to get along with someone else in a marriage, wouldn't some guy successful enough to have spent 80 hours a week cramming to get a few pieces of sheepskin be someone who doesn't have it in him to please a woman such as this?
I have friends like this in academia and they have about as much social skills as a video gamer in his mother's basement.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
IME, academia teaches almost antisocial behavior. Think about all of the foolishness on a college campus, and now continue to immerse yourself in that well into what should be formative years. And much of your time is spent alone, researching your own dissertation; the polar opposite of how success outside of academia usually works. Plus, as someone with a funky lifestyle, you often find yourself wandering around in a tiny social circle.
This is especially true of female academics, who basically spend their prime years living off indentured servitude wages (or getting daddy to pay for her shit while she waxes intellectual), and all of the negative drawbacks from that (bet you they aren’t getting healthy, home cooked meals as much as a normal woman is), only to finally be entrenched enough in her career and ready to “find the one” way beyond the age where she should’ve started trying. And of course, thanks to her relative isolation, lacks the social skills and empathy needed to actually connect with anyone.
IME, mid-30’s, highly educated career women were the absolute worst. At least the ex-CC riders might provide temporary excitement. Listening to one of those miserable scolds drone on about her boring life, OTOH, was so painful that I’d want to go monk mode.
This one is probably just a princess because mommy and daddy are paying for everything.
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
That's just social zealotry. When I was in academia I had very interesting people to talk to all day long. Then I would come out into the land of average people and have to talk to people 40IQ points lower and it's comparable to the average person having to talk to a downs syndrome person.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed about a week ago
I remember my time in academia fondly in that regard as well. It was neat to talk to people who had cool ideas. But... does that translate into higher (emotional) IQ for women such as this? I'm reminded of a gal who told me how smart modern women were who could "do it all" and I responded: "So, can she pay for her own dinner on a date then?" Can she engage in basic game to land a man that meets her qualifications?
Other guys with PhD's I knew back then could make ingenious observations about chess strategy and how to save time in rush hour traffic but... their apartments were a mess and they could barely dress themselves. My first girlfriend who was an associate professor's house looked like something out of hoarders.
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
I was in an inner-city campus so we all had street smarts and life skills but I know what you mean. Some people are sheltered. We had a dude from S. Africa come in and Jesus the dude stuttered like crazy, dressed like a momma's boy, thin as a twig, and would get eaten alive if he stepped off campus. Meanwhile us Physics majors would go play raquetball and hit the gym and bike/rollerblade to school to keep in shape, worked in the Physics lab for cash, and had chicks.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed about a week ago
Hehehe, Physics geeks with chicks. Totally different than the shuttered campuses I (unfortunately) got stuck in. Your story reminds me of Rutgers, Camden campus where the students basically "make a run" for the speedline metro and pray to reach it alive. My experience was on the other extreme: An rural campus 100 miles away from nowhere and a high male:female ratio.
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
Well keep in mind I was one of 2 people that graduated in my class with Physics degrees. The rest of the campus was liberal arts majors. Yes, Physics falls under the college of liberal arts. As a result we have to take one of the chick classes from each college like psychology, music, ethics, language, etc. One time I looked at doing a dual-major in electrical engineering(college of engineering) and it was a sausage party.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT about a week ago
I honestly feel bad for the guy - but he should've ended the date when she started with the checklist.
While I kinda get the idea of being disappointed from your boyfriend/girlfriend having kept a lie for so long, all I can read in he post is me, me, my dreams, my plans, my ideal life. At no point she's concerned about him - why he thought he had to lie (that would demand some self-reflection which wouldn't put her in a good light), how easy/hard his life is going to be in the next few years and if/how said degree will really matter in the long run, how their relationship is structured in such a way that being honest is hard.
Yeah, the dude oversold his curriculum - but the dumb HR manager who puts job ads demanding 5 years of experience for an entry level position should eventually come to realise that you can't forcibly get the cream of the crop.
AurelianWay Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Agreed. He shouldn't have lied in the first place and put himself in this situation to begin with. I know I am skirting Rule 3 here but this status whore is gonna keep him under her thumb from now on. Her parents are going to keep pestering her to find a more established higher earning professional so she will be even more resentful towards the guy. If he becomes a lawyer, it still won't be good enough because he needs to make partner or he better have his own firm. I hope for the guys sake that he just cuts her loose because he is on borrowed time if he stays with her.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Literally the first thing a job seeker looks for is whether the pay is good enough. We want to see if what’s in it for us is satisfactory. You can look for whatever you want as an employer, but if you’re offering entry level wages and demanding senior level performance, then you’ll have a vacancy for a long time. Maybe a few employers find a desperate person willing to fill the role, but they don’t stick around for long
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
I'm job hunting right now and it's ridiculous. I've figured out how to enter my searches so they exclude all those shit jobs. It's nice to have a list of 3 jobs, worldwide, that I'd actually consider and not have to read through thousands of BS jobs.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
I’m trying that as well. What’s the strategy?
I got on a call for a role that was already a job title downgrade (From principal to senior), but I don’t reject convos. However, when the recruiter girl told me the pay scale for the job (which was not even close to the normal salary range for that position), i had to politely end the call. Only thing that stopped me from laughing was that it’s not her fault that the company gave her a shit job advertisement to staff.
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
Well I'm looking for jobs that use my technology stack so in the keywords search I use each technology and + sign. So I search for "MongoDB+Express+React+Node.js". That filters out all the jobs where they just list everything like C#, Azure, .net, React, ruby on rails, etc. If I just search for react I get useless results.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
I once worked for a company whose tech stack was built in .NET. I basically had to totally decouple my own work in order to provide a machine learning function to the company.
Lone_Ranger Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
He got caught in a lie, and then he left it too long to correct it. These things happen. Who hasn't told a lie at some point in their lives?
She on the other hand, is re-evaluating the entire relationship because of his academic titles. Which shows you - she was never interested in him in the first place. She was just interested in a meal ticket.
I wonder if the guy has simply woken up to the fact that he can do much much better.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians about a week ago
At the risk or going against the grain: he was wrong for lying (especially about something that's a red flag for her), and he compounded it by not coming clean every time he saw her. She has every right to be pissed: her standards are hers alone.
That said: her standards are stupid. She's making one of the classic mistakes that many modern women make: she's stacking the stats that women value in men rather than the stats that give value to women. Since she's a hypergamous woman who is also highly credentialed (not to be confused with highly intelligent or highly educated, in her mind she's climbing past men who are unsuitable, but in actuality she's turning up her nose at men that are probably too good for her.
She's learning a painful lesson, which is that credentials are largely irrelevant, but at 36 it's getting late for her to learn it.
Higher education is largely wasted on women, anyway. Once she gets her doctorate... what then? Post doc? Will she eventually try to leverage all that schooling into something useful like money? If she does then it will take years before her income will balance out all the years she was making nothing while accumulating debt. Will she get knocked up and decide to be a SAHM with massive debt and no income? Neither way adds much to a man's life... especially a man with an advanced degree who can pick a woman more to his liking.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp about a week ago
Whether it's wasted on all women or not, for sure it's wasted on this woman. Why do I say that? She states she has an MA i.e. Master of Arts i.e. a useless liberal arts degree, and she's doubling down with a PhD in it. The only useful PhDs are in STEM (and even that's debatable; usually your salary in industry goes down if you have a PhD vs a BS or MS). That's not what she's getting. I'm even more certain of it when you look at the timeline: she started last year, and will graduate in 2.5 years. That is, her program lasts only 3 years. No real PhD course, where you have to actually demonstrate the ability to create new knowledge within your field, lasts that short a time. You can't even do a real research project in that time, nevermind defend a thesis too, which usually takes a year by itself. IOW, all the evidence points to this being a fluff degree.
And as you mention, after that PhD, then what? A post-doc? Some shitty non-tenure track assistant professor role in a community college? Barista at the local Starbucks? Who exactly employs some PhD "expert" on German medieval literature?
That's what makes this whole episode even funnier. Her PhD is worthless even as a signifier of a respectable credential. At parties, when someone says they have a PhD, the first thing people ask is "in what?" And if the answer is "The history of gender oppression in Elizabethan England" rather than "theoretical particle physics" no one will be impressed nor fooled into thinking she's intelligent. She'd be more respected if she just had a BA in history, called it quits after that and got some boring job in HR that at least paid the bills.
If both her parents were physicians, and she values education so much, I would bet good money she was initially pre-med. But pre-med is, like, you know, hard and stuff. She failed that, and failed other professional tracts (professionals like doctors and lawyers generally push their kids to be professionals as well, not starving PhDs), and so was left with the educational equivalent of a gentleman's C: when your BA was in something stupid and you got bad grades to boot, it's tempting to spin your wheels in a masters, and when you still don't have great job prospects, double down by sticking around for a PhD. Eventually you'll come out with something that you can convince yourself (and no one else) gives you value, while you've spent 5 years making yourself less employable than the 22 year old version of yourself with just a bachelor's.
If I was the guy, I would have left after that 2nd date. Even the worst gold diggers try to hide their motives by pretending they're just really into you and just want to keep it casual and couldn't care less about your ability to earn gobs of money. If a woman is so oblivious, self-unaware, or downright stupid as to give up their true motives that early, by grilling you about your job and future plans before you've even decided whether you want to be serious, then consider that a gift from God and bolt before things go south.
One of the skills you learn once you become a high value guy is the ability to sus these women out. But sometimes a woman makes it easy for you. For example, I remember once, my friend, myself, and a few women from his work went out for a night of drinking and dancing. His co-workers were cute, and I even fancied one of them, especially after she undid a few buttons on her blouse before coming out on the dance floor with me :-) Later that night though, my friend told me this girl asked him "Ogrilla is a , right? They make a lot of money, don't they?" Of course, he being a great wingman, praised my earning potential to the heavens until I sounded like the second coming of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos combined. I laughed, but that was when she was instantly moved to "will never be more than a plate" status. He should have done the same.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed about a week ago
I'm chuckling because most men for the past 2 generations or so had to lie to women to propagate the species. Do men enjoy paying for dinner dates and saying the "right things" women want to hear to reach the 2nd date and beyond? "No means maybe, tee hee!" "I don't like men who quit easily, here's a shit test!" "Real men don't let truth, morals, or honesty get in their way!"
Oh my God!!!! A man said what a woman wanted to hear to get nookie! Can you believe it!?!?!
On the flip side, "nice guys" and "honest men" don't get action and are mocked as incels and losers. It's almost... as if... there's little motivation for modern men to be honest or nice!
Not only that, but what harm has happened here? He wasn't just looking for tail, apparently, but provided her with a (mostly) genuine, empathic relationship. HOW AWFUL!!! Instead of her rejecting man after man or being academic chad's playtoy, he showed her what it would be like to possibly have a family.
I chuckled as I typed "academic chad's playtoy" because the reason why the pickin's are few in Academia for hypergamous women is that wokeness is on steroids there. The few PhDs who aren't gay or trans know they could lose EVERYTHING they worked decades for on the most flimsy of women's gripes. Heck, I read a news article a few months ago about some professor who broke up with his professor girlfriend and she destroyed his whole academic career.
IBelieveInTheFallen Jr. Hamster Analyst about a week ago
Lol, this reminds me of training at my current job.
This other employee said, “No means not yet.” And then the female instructor added, “in sales” and then the first girl kept making it a point to say, “in sales!” any time she would repeat that no meant not yet.
It was funny to me because I guarantee you both of these girls have fucked dudes who pushed past their ASD and LMR. Rather than saying, “Okay, let’s continue watching this shitty Netflix movie and I’ll just do as you please”, the guys pushed past the resistance and got laid.
nicknack about a week ago
No he wasn’t in the wrong, he said what he needs to say to pump her and get all the sex he could before the inevitable marriage talk came up, and now she said herself the wedding plans are pushed back 5 years. Guy should sell a course.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians about a week ago
If, "Getting the other person to do what I want" is sufficient reason to lie, then a lot of the criticism that occurs in red-pill spaces is hypocrisy.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT about a week ago
I actually agree with that - it's her right to be dumb, and she should either learn or live with the consequences of going full ostrich and sticking her head in the sand. I do feel bad about the guy because he honestly believed that she was above him, and thus he had to lie to get a shot with her; if he had any awareness, he would've gotten up as soon as the Gestapo questioning started and walked away, knowing that this kind of woman is not worth the squeeze. But the conditioning was too strong, and since he really wanted to be a part of the game, he cheated a bit. He'll only realise that the game is rigged against him (and that the only way to win a game rigged this bad is not playing) when he loses badly.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed about a week ago
There's one redpill truth that belies the statement "she should either learn or live with the consequences": Experience shows most such women are capable of neither. They can't learn or live with the consequences. Actually, this guy did her a huge favor because if it wasn't for him, she'd have had a dry bed right up to the wall. Our wrecked society is due to the western patriarchy giving women choices they can't handle. Libertarians believe that people should have unlimited choices. Why not allow crack, heroin, and cocaine stands on every streetcorner with a mere 18 year old age restriction? What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT about a week ago
Touché.
whytehorse2021 about a week ago
Lol guys here talk about gaming these chicks all the time. This guy played her perfectly. Got the pussy and then when she wanted to move in and get the ring he said something to dry up her pussy and make her dump him.