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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Leftovers

Last woman standing in her social circle becomes leftovers who feels left out
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Typo-MAGAshiv

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downzector 2y ago

if i was ~feeling this way~ i would go check my testosterone's levels and cut everything with soy in my food... just a thought... but if it is a (w0)man it is all 'normal' ..

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lemko1968 2y ago

They had a name for this type of woman back in the day: Old Maid.

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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 2y ago

When you squander the most critical years of your life to find a relationship, it is not surprising if you start to feel some dread when everyone else around you has figured out how to get a relationship. The problem is not just that she has this feeling, but rather that she is now a solitary crab in a bucket with no one to pull down. Notice how she wants someone else to share dating horror stories with? Wouldn't it be something if she chose not to embrace the drama in her life but to actually move away from it?

Her feelings are as they are because she realizes that she could have something much more in her life, and her friends around her getting married are proof that it was indeed possible, but she failed to accomplish this. While no one has 100 percent control of their circumstances, including her, clearly her friends figured out something which she could not. Or she possibly refused to take the idea of finding a serious relationship seriously in her 20s, and now that lack of effort is manifesting in her leftover in the dating market.

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

"Last crab in the bucket." I fucking love it!

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2y ago

She didn't squander those years. She got plenty of cock from one group of men and plenty of courtship-like entertainment from another group of men whom she'd privately mock. That's an awesome way to spend your twenties.

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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 2y ago

Unless you are being sarcastic, such a life might seem fun in the moment, but having decades of potentially being childless and single is not something most women really want. That is most certainly not a good bargain. Choosing short term pleasure by foregoing long term happiness just leaves you with past memories and nothing else. And often those memories are not even that great to look back at.

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

This brings up something I wanted to point out with WAATGM for a while. I think that all the posts are showing a small percentage of loser women that were too stupid or very unlucky to make the jump off the Carousel in time. I would like to give women credit to their basic survival and reproductive instincts and would think that MOST women know the party is going to end (The Wall) and make plans accordingly.

I get it: with our fucked up society, there are plenty of women that lost the game of musical chairs and are going into their 30's and beyond looking for a man, hence the never ending material to post. But like I said, I would think that most women know when to jump ship. I have dated, talked to, heard, or seen plenty of women nearing 30 that went into "she will find a husband no matter what" mode. They go from looking for Mr Right to finding Mr. Right Now.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

Plenty of women manage to "stick the landing" as Rollo says.

However, they're not entertaining. The ones featured here are.

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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 2y ago

Funny thing about what you say about "MOST women know the party is going to end," it was quite commonly known that a woman would miss a window in being able to get married if she waited too long. Ever heard of the term "old maid?" That, along with spinster, were terms used for women who could not manage to get married. There were bountiful warnings for all women that they needed to be prepared so that they would not get left behind. Funny how this wisdom that used to be commonplace is not so common anymore, but rather it is being discovered by the current generations of women. Only these women will not warn others or serve as a proper warning, as there are not many viewpoints being broadcasted in opposition to the "you have all the time in the world" message that women are currently getting.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

Back in 1990, a woman friend of ours said that her feminine hivemind clique encouraged the women to see marriage as something women shouldn't openly desire and that it was a sign of weakness, to other women, to express it and only a "Real Man", TM, would climb up the tower and prove not only himself, but marriage itself, worthy of her attention. That a woman had to believe in The Queen paradigm to be worthy of friendship in their circle. In the 1950's, women trained each other on how to flirt with men while in the 1990's, such women engaged in cockblocking and shaming women trying to have relationships or marriage.

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I remember that period of indoctrination vividly. The feminists really did a number on the Gen X women. Oh well, I guess I will enjoy my freedom, solitude and comfortable retirement doing whatever the hell I want.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

And yes, she is over thirty, though you cannot see it in this post.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

Granted she'd almost have to be given the timeline she specified, unless she somehow managed to go 19-29 entirely dateless, which I doubt as even a pig ugly woman can get suitors in that age range.

Once again for the peanut gallery lurking:

1) Any woman that made it past 30 and is still single fucked up somewhere, badly.

2) Any woman having to resort to online dating apps is also a fuckup, as it means she either either too picky or too incompetent to meet men in real life.

Men get a pass on those only because they are not valued for just existing and not grossly fucking their lives up like women are. They have to build value instead of being born with the sexual equivalent of a high compound interest loan of a couple million dollars.

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maseboogie Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Spot on with this comment. I'd also like to supplement your 2nd point:

Any woman having to resort to online dating apps is also a fuckup, as it means she either either too picky or too incompetent to meet men in real life.

They're also too scared to compete with their younger "sisters" in real life for the men they want because they know they're at a serious disadvantage in terms of looks, youth, and fertility.

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Initial-Glove Wahmyns 2y ago

Chances are, shes had the opportunity to settle down and didnt want to. What's up with the single guy in their circle? Oh yeah, he's not Chadly.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

I'd bet her attitude towards him changes the second he gets a promotion or windfall, or some sort of mass economic downturn happens and he pulls through it fine, and he ends up in a higher wealth/status bracket than other men in her social circle.

I remember getting a promotion and multiple raises a few years back and the amount of sudden ass-sucking was unreal.

It's one reason men should treat financial success cautiously.

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Doricel 2y ago

She has difficulty sitting down, but that's because of her past, not her age.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Women only give a shit when their circle starts giving a shit. If they were still out slutting it up, she would be perfectly fine taking a new cock every night.

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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 2y ago

Yeah, that was exactly what caught my attention. She still doesn't even care about her potential husband, it's all about not being the only one left single. Always concerned about that sweet social validation; what a great marriage will that entail.

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Yep, goddamned female hive-mind is real.

Those hobbies she says she likes? Lifted from the consensus. That place she wants to travel to? Heard one of her herdmates talk about it, so now she HAS to go. Chad can bang a chick until she can't walk straight? Well dang, she's gotta try it out too, even though Donna that slut didn't deserve his dicking - in her thinking.

Its gotten to the point where I doubt any of them have any real independent thoughts at all, if they're the typical westernized wastrel pounding their clam on onlyfans for subs/likes.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Men are measured by their peers based on what they produce. A man can be king of the assholes if he provides enough value to offset it.

Women are creatures that rely on the group (and men) for survival so conformity to leadership is their natural state.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

A man can be king of the assholes if he provides enough value to offset it.

I like to call it "Becoming so Great that people beg for the chance to forgive your sins."

It's amusing how the same people that wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire start to kiss major ass once you attain a higher position than them.

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Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 2y ago

Okay, and what happens when she gets eliminated from the proverbial game of musical chairs?

I have no one to commiserate with about dating horror stories

You can't make this shit up.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago

She said that she's been "single" for ten years. When a man says that in the context of dating it means that he hasn't been on a date with a woman in a decade. For modern women it means they haven't been in a serious relationship... she may have run her n-count into triple digits during that time, of course.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

I was hoping someone would point this out!

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

Yeah guarantee she got her guts rearranged more than once in that period, even pig woman can get dicked down. A woman that genuinely can't get sex is such a statistical outlier as to be utterly irrelevant to any honest discussion about sociosexual dynamics.

Granted, one cannot trust women to be reliable narrators of their relationship status in either direction as they will also say they are in a relationship when what's actually happening is they are just one of many side chicks or booty calls for a dude that will never commit to them.

Edit: Frankly the dishonesty about that is to a point I can definitely see why so many ancient cultures came up with the concept of holding public ceremonies that served as a way to announce who was not supposed to be fucking around with randos anymore.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

That's exactly what weddings are for. A public announcement "hey, this piece of ass belongs to Tom. Fuck with her at your own peril."

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

All women get fucked unless they are literally at the bottom of the market. There ARE femcels, but it's rare enough to be statistically insignificant.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago

No woman is celibate unless she chooses to be. Visit Walmart if you don't believe me... you'll see women that would gag a maggot with kids.

They're not femcels (female celibates), because they're not celibate... far from it. What they are are inspins: involuntary spinsters. They can get sex with a swipe. What they cannot get are husbands.

They think that men are vending machines that will dispense commitment if they drop in enough sex coins.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Wonder if that one single male friend was ever interested in her romantically. And if he’s “just a friend” or not.

Because I seriously doubt she has been celibate for almost a decade.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

And if he’s “just a friend” or not.

...but you say he's just a friend, but you say he's just a friend...

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Is she dating for sex or is she dating for marriage? It sounds like she has been on the circuit for a while now and has tried all the available men she could find.

Well sweaty, choosing last is a lousy strategy. Look at the bright side, when your girlfriends start getting divorced, there will be more single men in your social circle.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

Except for even they won't want her at that point.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

Is she dating for sex or is she dating for marriage?

She's dating to get her vagina licked, Boar!

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

We need to form complaining groups for women.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

Doesn't that describe any group with women in it, since they're always complaining?!

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Oh yeah it should be a group for post-wall single women since the married ones exclude them.

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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 2y ago

a group for post-wall single women since the married ones exclude them

So, professorate?

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

perhaps

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

I find this interesting in that she says she doesn't have a single single female friend. Even if she had many female friends before, women generally have larger social circles than men because, sadly, men have a harder time getting strangers to talk to us. Just as a woman whose having a problem finding men is suspect, a woman with few women friends is also a red flag. She also says she is running out of male friends which I would say that her "orbiters" have finally found other "planets" to orbit.

It's not tough to be friends with married people particularly with kids, actually. We always want babysitters. She may have some socialization issues which she rationalizes with "comfortable with my own company".

Another observation is that we know that in this era, a good half of women will remain single meaning that there may be large numbers of such women out there living in total isolation.

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chunky 2y ago

Oh, no. Married couples (i.e. married women) really don't want single women around, lest they attract the attention of their husbands. Sure, there's utility in recruiting baby sitters, but if the single gal is baby sitting, she's not doing "friend stuff" with the adults.

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Einsamer 2y ago

Well analyzed. Nothing really to add here. Just want to highlight the most important sentence in there:

Just as a woman whose having a problem finding men is suspect, a woman with few women friends is also a red flag

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago

Another observation is that we know that in this era, a good half of women will remain single meaning that there may be large numbers of such women out there living in total isolation.

Men are pursuers... women expect to be pursued. It is the woman's job to be a desirable object of pursuit for the man she wants to pursue her. There was an old saying that, "A man pursues a woman until she catches him."

One of the reasons that lesbian relationships are so utterly dysfunctional is that neither party can fulfill the male role... nobody initiates. That's why "lesbian bed death" is so common: each expects the other to initiate.

Female friendships are similar in that individual women won't form tight groups unless they're thrown together by circumstance over time. Sure... they'll meet for brunch, mimosas, and the latest gossip, but nobody is going to be moving anyone's refrigerator (much less jumping on a grenade).

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

We anthropomorphize mating habits of mammals based upon 20th and 19th century western culture. In the animal kingdom, for the most part (with a few cherry picked exceptions), the male does "pursue" females but the females rut or are "claimed" by dominant males. In the animal kingdom, the females largely raise offspring on their own with few surviving to adulthood.

I had a debate with a feminist who argued that females were the "queens" of the jungle but they actually mimic hood inner city dwellers: the dominant lion male kills off the children of the pride that aren't his and then makes the women breed his own. He then sits around while the females hunt for him. This is about as opposite to the "protector/provider" narrative of trad-wives as possible.

Only in a welfare state where women have so-called equal social rights to men does such female domination in mating and culture persist.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

Yeah the problem a lot of the women in this situation have a hard time admitting is that they are terrible friends to have, so of course they don't have many friends despite one hell of a home court advantage.

How many of these women would happily let someone move furniture for them without even buying them a beer or a meal, much less reciprocating by helping move furniture too?

Therein is their problem, their idea of friendship is so exploitative that even men start to drift away once the covert contract of maybe getting some pussy is clearly never getting fulfilled.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Women, generally, are shit friends.

Think about it. If a man is your friend, you know that he's got your back. He'll pick you up when you're drunk. He'll help you move that couch. He'll sit with you after that bitch Amanda breaks your heart and you just want to forget her at the bottom of a bottle of scotch. He doesn't want anything from you except for you to be your best self.

What does a woman do? She doesn't really value male companionship because she's buffeted by it all day. She can't reciprocate anything. She doesn't understand our struggles so she can't be sympathetic. All women "friends" do is dangle sexual tension in exchange for a one sided trade of effort.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

Think about it. If a man is your friend, you know that he's got your back. He'll pick you up when you're drunk. He'll help you move that couch. He'll sit with you after that bitch Amanda breaks your heart and you just want to forget her at the bottom of a bottle of scotch. He doesn't want anything from you except for you to be your best self.

Men being allowed to shame each other helps a lot with this. If a dude is being a shitty friend, one can actually call them out on it or even get into some wall to wall counseling over it if needed.

Can't do that with women. Not Allowed.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2y ago

One of things I valued about my male friends is that they didn't lie to me.

Women do love their friends' lies, though.

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