Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Sidebar
We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
-
1. No shaming men for any reason.
-
2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
-
3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
Rules for submission:
-
5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
-
5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
-
6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
-
7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
-
8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
- 9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.
Recommended reading:
-
Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
-
OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
-
Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
-
Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
-
WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
-
Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
-
Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
-
Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
-
The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
-
Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
Link Flair:
-
The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
-
Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
-
Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
-
Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
-
Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
-
Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
Content Archive:
Related forums:
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
She's not pretty enough to be making these demands
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2y ago
Politely disagree. If she were the prettiest woman in the world, and she were making these demands, I would still maintain that she is an entitled, stuck up, egotistical, childish bitch.
If you think about your comment it would seem to suggest that women should be given the right to make lots of demands if they are more pretty. I don't agree - as soon as we go down that route, we are basically endorsing entitlement.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
A hard truth that people don't want to accept is this: A lower SMV means you have to accept less and, conversely, A higher SMV means that you can demand more from the market.
The fact is that if she was indeed the prettiest woman in the world, she could make those demands. Your feelings about her being an "entitled, stuck up, egotistical, childish bitch" would be irrelevant because men of substance and value would be lining up to meet those demands.
Much like any market, if you can command a price and have it met, is it entitled, stuck up or egotistical? If I were the greatest violinist in the world, would I be shamed for demanding millions for my skill set? Do we call neurosurgeons childish for demanding the best working conditions?
Market value determines what you can reasonably ask for.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2y ago
That's a good argument. I guess what I mean is this - if she were the prettiest woman in the world, I am guessing that men of value would still reject her. Here's why.
Pretty women are ten a penny. They're everywhere. The prettiest woman it the world and she's an entitled, stuck up, egotistical, childish bitch? That would be a hard pass for most high value men. Because the pretty thing wears off real quick. I can't speak for all men, but most of us (esp high value men) see much more than looks in a woman. This is why so many 'beautiful and desirable' women end up alone. Women like Charlize Theron.
I know what you are arguing, about values in the SMP. But in the end, there are many many women that simply overestimated the value of beauty. And understimated the value of good personality.
Aphr00dita 2y ago
If she would be on sales team, she would end up buying - my first thought and then she reveals she purchased some semen already but couldn't sell herself at the same time.
Edit
Her body language is off,
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
Most tall women face reality, that they'd better be open to guys shorter than they are.
At 5'11", I'm only 1 inch taller than my wife. One of her exes was 5'7". One of my best childhood friends grew up to be a 6'2" woman, and she gave shorter dudes a chance.
Then again, these two women were more intelligent and closer to reasonable than most women, and faced reality.
I know dudes who are 5'5" and shorter who could manhandle her and make her realize just how delicate and weak she is.
She'd better realize that like she said at the start,
...which means the competition is fierce. If she can't bring herself to open her mind a bit and give shorter dudes a chance, then she'd better out-compete her shorter sisters by being kinder and easier to be with. She seems very off-putting, like she's cold and demanding. Good luck with that. Moving to another country won't help when you're an entitled bitch.
If a man's height is all that matters, why aren't you with her father?!
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Ding ding ding - you hit it on the head, of course.
I'm nearly two meters tall, and she says '170' which translates to 5 foot 5 inches. Thing is, I like 'em short AND tall, and I wouldn't like her at all.
Its just the classic example of women blaming everything but themselves, up to and including "having to move to another country" because she can't even face reality.
Bitch, you're barely good looking enough to serve me food at a restaurant why the eff would I include you in my life?
But that is the kind of straight-to-the-fact kind of statement that would implode her little "I'm too precious" fantasy, as you've pointed out.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
She's not even concubine/mistress material to the tier of men she's chasing. Hell, most of them wouldn't even consider hiring her as an easy access maid. She's disposable dick wipe tier.
Like I mentioned in another comment, her best bet would have to stop putting on airs back in her 20's and lock down a lower-middle class dude, and proceed to treat him very well as even that is a reach for her potential.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
Although women often love to "travel" to ride the CC, MOVING to another place is something her "feminine, delicate" sensibilities will have a problem with. It means dealing with feeling like a fish-out-water. You're out of your comfort zone for years, perhaps even the rest of your life. My wife continues to "think" in Ukrainian even though she speaks English most of the time. She went to the Ukrainian church to volunteer on the weekends and said it was so refreshing to hear and think in the same language for 1 day out of the week. There's a reason why it's mostly men who are pioneers who are driven not just by economic necessity, but the ability to handle this discomfort.
Secondly, she says she wants to feel "feminine" but she undermines masculine men. Her demand to wear heels is a perfect illustration of this: She further weakens a man's height in relation to her as a choice along with her career and other feminist impulses. She "shit tests" men who spend their lives in necessary discomfort but want to come home to comfort. I travel and accept discomfort but I don't book a hotel room next to a disco and bowling alley after a hard day of work. A man who has the ability to pass her "tests" has choices.
Although we don't know if she is thinking about having children and pondering what would happen if she were to have a daughter or if she's a single mother already, she's already past her prime. She appears to have a LOT of makeup on.
Pic889 2y ago
Men should put in the extra effort to measure up to her you insensitive misogynistic pig!!! Now go an get an expensive and painful leg-lengthening surgery until you are at least 1.85m so you can date her very mediocre ass on all things other than related to height.
BTW gotta love her "dating site for tall people" idea. And tall men will limit their dating pool that way for what reason exactly?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
I remember back in the early 90's chatting with the tall hotel proprietor of a cheap hotel in Silicon Valley who said that he joined a "tall people club" and said "it wasn't a meeting of the minds". He found lots of tall woman tail and didn't mind it. It's hilarious that she thinks that tall men should restrict themselves to her merely because she needs them.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2y ago
That's it polish - you hit the nail on the head - she thinks that tall men should restrict their choices to tall women BECAUSE SHE NEEDS THEM TO DO SO. It's actually class A pure concentrated egotism. I don't know what the word is for when selfishness is so concentrated that it becomes a mental illness, but she has that problem.
The reality is that most men don't care about her height. What they really do care about is poor mental health....and she is a nut job. That is the reason why she is single. I've seen tall women and short women manage to find a husband - the thing they had in common was that they were nice.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I know plenty of tall guys. They're not good looking or rich but they're tall. So why isn't she dating them? She's just upset that the good looking guys she has access to are short.
nicknack 2y ago
Bingo. My cousin is 6’5 and hasn’t had sex in years because he’s overweight, earns a fairly low salary, and evidently doesn’t want to go dumpster diving. She wouldn’t even look his way. Funny enough, she’s in the dumpster as a walled up single mom with tattoos on her hands, but that’s beside the point.
MidgetSpinner 2y ago
She's not average, but in a bad way.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2y ago
as ever, the easy way to evaluate this is to simply reverse the genders. Can you imagine a man going online and demanding that women just be less tall, so that he can 'feel more masculine and tall'? What if he said, 'Hows this going to work...I'm short, so what am I going to do with all these tall women? I NEED to feel big and strong and powerful and only a short woman is going to make me feel that way. I'm seriously considering emigrating to a country where I can find more short women'.
We would rightly say the man was a vain, entitled and childish. Just reverse the genders and all becomes clear.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
I read a similar mindset a few months ago here where someone suggested to women who criticized Leonardo Decaprio's ageism to imagine if men shrunk in height by 1 inch every 5 years and heck, have his income go down with time too. How many women would want to marry a man who shrunk in height and income as time went on?
The marriage game used to work in women's favor in that when men were at their most sexually needy, young and naive, they'd hitch up to a young woman and have kids with her meaning that even if he looked at every 20 year old girl that walked by when he was 50, he wouldn't act upon those impulses due to his commitments.
"And all at once it seems so nice The folks are throwing shoes and rice You hurry to a spot that's just a dot on the map And then you wonder how it all came about It's too late now, there's no gettin' out You fell in love, and love is the tender trap" -- Frank Sinatra
The young woman's greatest asset is that young, handsome men may not yet realize that women age since young people have this immortality delusion going on. Older men see older women not as youthful, but aging and know that her desirability goes downhill and she offers little else aside from that.
nicknack 2y ago
Tired of hearing this “if this was the reverse” argument, alongside female dating delusion, we also use it for sexism against men, racism against white people, political persuasion against non liberal ideologies, and way more, and guess what, nothing ever changes and every year things just get worse. That argument just isn’t working.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2y ago
You're totally missing the point Nicknack - I am not trying to convince women the error of their ways. I doubt any woman will ever read my comment. So my 'reverse the genders' point is not aimed at women, so I think you're way off when you say 'that argument isn't working'.
I feel that the 'reverse the genders' is a great test to quickly evaluate whether what a woman is saying is bs. We've been in the age of equality of decades now, women are paid the same (by law) and have equal access to ecucation etc, so it would be wrong to cut them any slack (it would actually be sexist). So... I often use the 'reverse the genders' test to see if what the woman is saying is entitlement.
nicknack 2y ago
I guess you are using the “reverse this scenario” as a mental exercise or frame or reference rather than an argument. Which is fine. My only point is, it’s not an argument.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2y ago
Its not an argument....because the last thing we need is an argument. I am not trying to convince women of the error of their ways....because that would be an impossible task. It can't be done. Ergo, I do not need to develop convincing arguments to put before women to try and rectify their behaviour. I would have that was one of the foundations of red pill theory - to accept that women are as they are and not waste time trying to change them.
The reason I think the 'reverse scenarios' is a useful test is because it helps me (or us?) to take a quick reality check on whether what somebody is saying (in this case a woman) has any validity at all. Part of staying sane is to always be aware that you could be wrong. And since we are in a bit of an echo chamber here - its imperative to have little logical tests to keep us on the straight and narrow.
Therefore = I still maintain that its a very useful tool to sometimes ask yourself how this would look if the genders were reversed.
When I hear something misandry, I often just pause and ask - 'Could you say what you are saying about blacks and Jews?' This usually silences a conversation and everyone gets really quite and careful with their words. I then double down - 'So you're saying that most men talk over women / exploit women / are sexist / evil etc.... could you say that same thing about blacks or jews? The only acceptable answer is 'no'. To which I reply - so why can you say it about men? If you can't say something about blacks because that's racist, then you can't say it about men, because thats sexist and bigoted.
We can't have equal rights but then distribute them unevenly. That's just sexism / racism / bigotry with window dressing.
Theres no real comeback to that argument.
HmoobMikah 2y ago
If you can't appeal to their empathy, how'd you expect them to see the errors of their ways? We all know that women, in general, are solipsistic. If a child is acting in the wrong, we try to get them to see how it feels if they were on the other side. If not for this argument, then I'm curious how you would expect them to see things differently. How do you reason with logic without comparison?
Aphr00dita 2y ago
Emotional manipulation. Dark triad. You need it just a little with NORMAL woman. Reasoning is a no. I think you can also explicate in.form of exercise, that is not obvious exercise.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
The tall rich good looking dude with a good family background is going to take one look at her and accurately peg her as trash trying to date/marry way too far above her station.
Shit dye job, substandard garish makeup that does nothing to conceal the ravages of age and lifestyle, and her facial features suggest some mild FAS which is a marker of a garbage upbringing.
Moving will not change any of that.
Her best bet, like so many other women, would have been to lock down some stable middle class guy back in her early 20's (I presume she is early 30's now at best) regardless of his height or looks, because she does not have the currency to afford being shallow and the interest that age charges women is compound in nature.
And then treat him very well, because even that is reaching hard for her potential.
nicknack 2y ago
You also missed visible tattoos (on her hand), a typical indicator of low class trash.
On the bright side, she’s white with very blue eyes. She can easily go to India, or Nigeria and marry a very tall man there in one of those countries that way over value white women.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
Probably because I didn't bother watching very far into the video - first 5 seconds was enough for me to assess her as trash tier with no further evidence needed.
nicknack 2y ago
5 seconds is coincidently the same about of time the tall successful chads look at her before turning their head away and forgetting she existed. And if she thinks things in Scandinavia will be better she’s in for a surprise. If she can’t compete with British slags, imagine trying to compete with Scandinavian bombshells
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
And that's even before considering the factor that the most successful men tend to be more socially aware than the average man, and know that a woman that cut ties with the social circle and status that she grew up in is a huge red flag, since women typically value those more than men would. Usually means she's trying to reset her social status and pretend that she's something that she is not.
Or to put it simply, high value women don't need to move to another country to find a decent suitor. Especially a woman from a first world one.
nicknack 2y ago
In the Balkans if a small town girl gets caught being a slut or gets dumped by an LTR the first thing her family does is get her a bus ticket to the big city or a plane ticket to whatever country they have connections to send them. Nobody of value wants them anymore.
The term high value women always seems kind of weird to me. The vast majority of women are born high value and this diminishes through a mix of their own actions and the sands of time. Men on the other hand pretty much have to build their value but they keep it. A 70 year old multi millionaire can still marry a woman any age and provide her an amazing life, children. What can a 45 year old woman provide anyone?
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Bitching, complaining, emotional rollercoaster as her hormones start to go out of whack due to peri-menopause and sky-high levels of entitlement, plus don't forget about her aging saggy body and well used roast-beef between her legs.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 2y ago
First world problems.